WOW! G35 BIG new prob??

[andrewjetmitchell]

OK just traded in my 04' G35 130,000 miles for a Black beauty 05' G35 40,000 miles on it. BUT!! I already found a HUGE problem. Yesterday i threw the new blk beauty into a RIGHT hand corner about 50-60 mph with no brakes and 1/2 way threw the corner the left front wheel started to lock up which lurched the car and almost threw me into the cement wall. It felt like the anti lock was hitting that wheel by Its self?? My wife had the same thing happen to her 1st. She was on a RIGHT hand on ramp 50- mph and called me and said the anti lock system tried to in-gauge going around the corner. It seems RIGHT hand corners and vibration?? Is in-gauging the anti lock system ONLY ON 1-TIRE?? Im not sure what exactly happened HELP?? Jet

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[joe603]

I'd take it to the dealer to have them inspect the system ASAP!! I don't think it's the ABS system...probably the VDC (vehicle Dynamic Control) system that can brake individual wheels independently. Was the slip light on (if you could notice it during the maneuver)?

You could test it in an empty parking lot...

[andrewjetmitchell]

Hey Joe..you could be on to something. Not sure if the light was on due to me trowing into a 15-20 mph turn at 50-60 mph with 1-lane and 2-cement walls on each side. lol

my next question would be, any problem Im having is usually a common problem. Anyone else running into this?

[awdjdmtalon]

Sounds to me like the VDC was activating. \

High speed + low speed turn=wheel slippage/slidding.

Sounds like the VDC did its job. Try slowing down.

[awdjdmtalon]

Let me get this straight. You went into a 15-20 mph curve at 50-60 and the VDC ativated.

Sounds like you had a wheel slidding and the VDC tryed to correct the issue. I suggest you slow down a bit.

What tires are on the car. I bet they are not high performance tires, and surpassed the traction limit.

[andrewjetmitchell]

Come on guys..I didnt buy a G35 to slow down. lol. Im 90% sure there wasnt any wheel spin..maybe vibration yes?? But my wifes FLUFFY driving going around a big slow on ramp should not have activated it?? I know your trying but in her case "it shouldnt have come on period!" In my case, It was nothing that car couldnt handle and it over compensated and almost wrecked me! ?? My 04' never did this, Im quite use to this car. Jet

[gwoods]

sounds like VDC saving your butt.

Go find a empty parking lot. Try a shopping mall on Sunday early morning.

Mess around making fast turns with the VDC off and on. Have a passenger have them video the instrument panel.

Post the video on Nico and we will tell you if its your driving or something with the car.

A ABS failure would make the ABS/Brake light light solid. How much material do you have left on your brake pads? What do the brakes sound like when you stop?

[zozoka1212]

Well you maybe used to the car but not to the tire.

There is nothing between youer car and the road. Only the tires.

So your car can only be as good as your tire let it to be. As others were saying the VDC was compensating and helped you out. Check your tires and brakes. What tires do you have? What is the tire wear on them? How is your brake? Have you tried the VDC off?

[andrewjetmitchell]

Havent checked brakes yet, only 45,000 miles on it though. Well it wasnt saving my wifes butt at 40-50 mph on a LONG sweeping on ramp??

[zozoka1212]

Havent checked brakes yet, only 45,000 miles on it though. Well it wasnt saving my wifes butt at 40-50 mph on a LONG sweeping on ramp??

Well l needed new brakes after 20k miles and new tires too. When you buying a car it is always a good idea to check the tires and brakes. 40k miles are more than enough to ruin the brakes.

[andrewjetmitchell]

OK, just spoke with the technical advisor at the dealer and he said "it should not be activating at that low of speed or on a easy turn (wife driving). He said wheel spin sensor or something needs to be looked at". Thanks guys. i will try the parking lot later.

So, what I want to really know if this is a common problem or not?? Happen to anyone else??

[Warpkor]

Yes, this has happened to me just as you described the problem and it is the VDC activating. At least in my case, the VDC is activating when it shouldn't. But it's not the car's fault. I was running 40 series tires on the car and recently replaced the rears with 35 series tires. So the front tires are still 40 series and the backs are 35 series. Man, the VDC doesn't like this. Every mild sweeping turn or off ramp the VDC activates and causes one of those pucker moments. I've been running with the VDC off until I replace the front tires with 35 series tires. Check to see if the tire sizes match on your car.

[joe603]

good point! Have you put on different size tires?

If you have 19's, I recommend:

245/35-19 front275/35-19 rears

[Cpt_Impossible]

VDC, what's that?

Ooooh, you mean that thing we turn off when we start the car unless its pouring down rain or snowing... Gotcha!

[gwoods]

Warpkor I think you might be on to something!

I have a set of 245/30/17 tires I run at the track and the VDC does weird things with those on the back and 235/50/17 on the front

What size tires and rims does your new G have?

[SteveTheTech]

What is the condition of all of your tires (brand, size, and tread depth) and do you have an X?

[tollboothwilley]

I bet you have different brand of tires front and back don't you?

The VDC and ABS are sensitive and if you have different tires it will throw problems like that.

Turning off VDC should preventy ou from diving in corners like that, but not a solution to your problem. You need the same brand, size, and tire model or this will happen.

[pae9132]

this happened to me a while back in my 03 sedan...never knew what it was....i thought it might be the 18" wheel and tire rubbing but I never saw any marks to prove that....it's probably the same issue that's written about here...good to know...hopefully it never happens again though because it almost killed me

[SoCalSideways]

this has never happened to me. mine is the same year as well, and my tires are a bit bigger than stock. im currently using 245/45/r19 in the rear, 225/45/r19 in the front. i highly suggest you take it to inifiniti because im pretty sure it has nothing to do with tire size or else mine would be having the same problem. keep us updated.

[kmckis1029]

sounds like the VDC did its job... but your brakes and/or tires are not up to par...

the vdc braked the front left tire to counter your clockwise rotation around that tight right turn...

vibration in the pedal when the abs activates is normal... vibration from the wheel might indicate a wraped rotor...

the times i play with my 2005 g35x and forget to turn off the VDC it has always countered my tire spin correctly. I really hope you calm down in your car until you get to the bottom of this...

[tollboothwilley]

this has never happened to me. mine is the same year as well, and my tires are a bit bigger than stock. im currently using 245/45/r19 in the rear, 225/45/r19 in the front. i highly suggest you take it to inifiniti because im pretty sure it has nothing to do with tire size or else mine would be having the same problem. keep us updated.

It has nothing to do with tire size. It has everything to do with tire brand and model.

[vic.vic90]

I just found out that I have the same EXACT problem as andrewjetmitchell, does anyone know what it is, or how it could be repaired?

[sewb88]

OK so i just had this same problem ... AGAIN! I bought my car used last year in November and had this exact experience happen to me. I was getting on an on ramp from a dead stop at a stop light and my car started spinning out of control maybe going 25MPH. Luckily I slid into the grass and hit a hole so i only blew out my tire and no one was hurt. I took it to the dealer and they kept it for almost a MONTH~! gave it back and said my pads were worn out (3mm rear 5mm front) OK $2k and i'm safe right???? WRONG! Since then i have been religious with my brake inspections. I have it on record with the same dealer that my pads were 5mm rear and 9mm front on 11/3/2010 so that can not be the issue. I had them check it when i had them install a whole new set of tires all 4 brand new link to brand and type at bottom.

Last night 11/29/10 i was coming home and came to a stop light. Slowed down for the red but it turned green before a complete stop. About 50-60 feet down the road is a slight left hand turn. My back end came around for about a half second and then the car SNAPPED back to being straight no light no nothing me and my buddy laughed and continue to drive to our house which was less than a mile away. Right before my house there is a turn off camber and to the right. In the middle of this turn i had the same experience but this time it never let go. The back tires locked up with no brakes applied. This is the same experience i had described to the dealer last year when i bought the car but there was no evidence. How do i know it happened this time you may ask... the cars behind me stopped and told me! "Dude your back tires just stopped spinning and like half way around your brake lights came on" Slid across 2 lanes of on-coming traffic backwards, hit embankment (i was going so "fast" that that hitting a flat mud wall didn't ding or scratch my cars body panel even the tail lights are still together) and then ended up destroying my right rear wheel/tire on a curb. My suspension is completely screwed. Bent a ton of stuff and thats was just what i could see last night with a flashlight. Wheel and BRAND NEW TIRE (11/3/2010) are ruined. A chunk between two spokes was knocked out when i hit the curb. And the crazy thing is the Ford Explorer behind me made it through the same turn at the same speed no problems. Stopped and came and helped me push my car. So what's going on?? Anyone else having this happen even on different wheels/smaller scale? I am almost scared to drive the car in turns now!

I fell in love with this car the day i saw the concept vehicle ... i guess like all true loves it will find a way to burn you LOL jk jk

Here is a link to the tires:
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp ... xclaim+UHP

[SteveTheTech]

How did you manage to do that?

As soon as the wheels start to break loose the VDC should kick on and immediately cut throttle.
If the steering wheel is turned too long and the car does not see appropriate wheel speed change it will cut the throttle and apply the ABS as needed.
If the car detects a rapid change in the pitch or yaw of the vehicle it will again cut the throttle.

I suspect the tires were your problem, from the start. Even when they are new Exclaims are crap.
Before the wreck what make,size, and tread rate were all of your tires.

One thing the car cannot tolerate is tires that have a different μ.

Sorry to hear about the wreck hope you have good insurance.