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zerepdivad
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ok so Today my friends and i finally got around to putting in and mounting my motor/trans and then we decided to see how the manifold and turbo would fit in..... needless to say i was disappointed because the return line from my jgs kit won't work on it because it's too short, and the turbo just seems to big for the area there are a few places it touches that it shouldn't etc. The manifold is an ssac and the turbo is a t3 off of a ford thunderbird/mustang svo. I've heard of "clocking" a turbo and it seems like it'd help my problem out somehwhat but also i need to do something about the downpipe...... I'll most likely just get the downpipe chopped and welded but the other things concern me more. Here's a few picturesI know there's a few guys out there that have ran svo/thunderbird turbo's on ka'ts. I'd really like to keep with this turbo. Any ideas are greatly appreciated. Or links to how-to guides with clocking turbos.



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Do your oil return point straight down? If not, clock it.You just remove/loosen the clamps to separate the housings on the turbo, with some luck you only need to loosen one side.

The oil return can point a bit to the side but just a bit.I´ve seen a few cars with oil returns pointing totally wrong and it always ends up in problems.Oil leaks, noise or bad bearings.

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Looks like you just need to clock that thing, and possibly a custom DP.

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yeah your not going to be able to use that downpipe, your going to need to get the flange and make your own downpipe.

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gaehrings13 wrote:yeah your not going to be able to use that downpipe, your going to need to get the flange and make your own downpipe.
Any chance you know of a place to get one for my particular turbo? It's a t3 off of a mustang svo.

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He has it herehttp://www.jgstools.com/turbo/index2.html

TK049- T3 5-bolt Garret Ford / Turbonetics / Garret Saab / Garret Volvo Garret aftermarket / PTE Flange.Does not fit M.Benz T3 turbine housings or Nissan T3 turbine housings.1/2" thick CNC mild steel $29.99 USD


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cool thanks a lot.

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Can you switch it to a bottom mount instead?

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What do you mean like flip the manifold around or just get a bottom mount one? I don't really want to get a new manifold nad have to wait until it comes etc... il think i'm just going to clock it in the next few days. After that all i have left to get it to run is a wideband and exhaust then it's off to tuning.

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if all else fails you can clock the motor to make room for your turbo!

2 on passenger side 3 on drivers and the motor was clocked enough to fit this monster turbo!

but you will still need to clock your compressor housing! and make sure your oil return is straight down!

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I noticed that your turbine exhaust housing and downpipe are _very_ close to your master brake cylinder. I ran into the same issue, and have yet to find a very good solution. Right now I have removed my brake booster to get a few more inches of clearance, but if you can find a better solution, I'm all ears for it.

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well as of right now i'm in the process of attempting to clock my turbo but one of the bolts just insists on wanting to strip. I planned on fabbing up a heatshield being accompanied as well with a lot of heat wrap. But mainly i want to try and fab up a nice shield. I was thinking of taking off the brake booster also but i'm not sure yet.

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well it looks like no matter what i do my turbo will not clock...... it's seized up. I guess what i'll have to do is get a bottom mount t25/t28 manifold and then weld on a t3 flange and run it that way. It will fix my drain problem and it will fix my problems with being so close to my brake booster/master cylinder. I'll keep you guys updated. I'm ordering the flange and manifold today. Also my sr injectors are in the mail. and i've got an appointment scheduled for exhaust.

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Just loosen the bolts and tap the housing lightly untill it comes loose. You need the oil inlet pointing up & outlet pointing down. Clock your compressor based on where the pipes go. I cut my outlet piece just after the flange and rotated it and then had it welded. Took my hot pipe straight on top of the wheel well and down through the battery tray. I since changed my turbo and would be willing to sell the custom part. Email for picture.

Also, tow your car to the exhaust shop. Getting the DP just right is tricky and important. Biggest PIA of the whole project.

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Edub1 wrote:Just loosen the bolts and tap the housing lightly untill it comes loose. You need the oil inlet pointing up & outlet pointing down. Clock your compressor based on where the pipes go. I cut my outlet piece just after the flange and rotated it and then had it welded. Took my hot pipe straight on top of the wheel well and down through the battery tray. I since changed my turbo and would be willing to sell the custom part. Email for picture.

Also, tow your car to the exhaust shop. Getting the DP just right is tricky and important. Biggest PIA of the whole project.
well you see that's the thing with the housing. It's seized up..... Tapping lightly does nothing. And completely beating it along with heating it up with a torch, and letting pb blaster soak over night also did nothing. So i'm just gonna go with a bottom mount setup.

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zerepdivad wrote:
well you see that's the thing with the housing. It's seized up..... Tapping lightly does nothing. And completely beating it along with heating it up with a torch, and letting pb blaster soak over night also did nothing. So i'm just gonna go with a bottom mount setup.
Whaaat???? Try bouncing it off the head of the guy that sold you that paper weight.

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Edub1 wrote:
Whaaat???? Try bouncing it off the head of the guy that sold you that paper weight.
i had that same problem.. some Dub D 40 and a 5 lb sledge did nothing so i broke down and saved for a brand new T25. i am also running a top mount and let me tell you if i could go back and do it again i would have chosen a bottom mount. Something is telling me thats why nissan did a bottom mount on the SR20. i have had nothing but trouble with clearence. im damn near on my Master cylinder so i just through some heat sheild around it for now.


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zerepdivad
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Yeah i figured by doing a bottom mount setup i'd have less to worry about as far as the bmc/brake booster were concerned. And also It seems like there will be more room for the exhaust people to get in and weld my down pipe. What's your setup with the t25?

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For now i have the T25, custom maniflod and piping, upgraded fuel pump. Still needs a lot of work though. Right after i got the turbo on my Knock sensor went out so my car is slow as hell and my radiator blew up today and now i am waiting for both to come from the east coast. also about to get 370cc injectors. other than that it is all stock and before my sensor went out it was pretty fast at 7psi. damn near kept up with my buddies SR20.


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