Would you dare say?

[sohc90adel]

Is there a 4 cylinder car faster than a 240sx, in the same price range as the s13's?

[nissanrcer240]

yes

[sohc90adel]

very funny!

[TurboKA37]

what do u expect with such a broad question? set some limits for us. how much money can u spend? what kind of condition can the car be in? what is ur definition of "fast"? straight line? in the turns? high speed stability?

[sohc90adel]

4,000 dollar range give or take 1000 dollars,

and a mix of turning and straightline.

[92Talon4evr]

yeah...buy a 1G dsm, lower it, buy strut and sway bars....a big 16g turbo and an exhaust and you'll have a car that runs low 13's to high 12's all day at the track and is fun as hell to autocross

[Cyberkreig]

Not only would that cost far more than the average S13, it would be far less reliable.

Edit: Sorry for the dsm reliablity slam.. but seriously.. That is typical DSM mentality.. "take on of these here, strap that there turbo on.." Who needs to spend money on proper tuning? Not DSM owners apparently.

[sohc90adel]

so there are no cars faster huh?

[TurboKA37]

RX7s are a popular comparison to the s13 and i wouldnt mind a mr2 turbo

[sohc90adel]

mr2 turbos are way more expensive! rx7 would be nice but what year?dont rx7 engines burnt out soon?

[TurboKA37]

ive never taken the time to do some research on the rx7 or mr2 turbo. im talkin bout the late 80s to 91 i believe rx7 and i knew the mr2 turbo would be more expensive im just saying i wouldnt mind having one

[sohc90adel]

i wouldnt mind either, i would love the 88 89 supercharged mr2, the non supercharged mr2 are pretty quick, i can only imagine the supercharged one.

[Zero-s13]

The fc rx7 (2nd generation) are really fast cars and can be reliable if you know how to take car of a rotory engine. I have seen some last as much as 200k miles on it, but some as short as 125k. It all depends on how you use it. But get some nice air flow mods on one (i.h.e.) and you will have one fast car that is similar to an s13. But in regards to your statement about a 4 cylinder being faster, the rx7 is not the one seeing how it doesn't have any cylinders at all. -Jeromy

[APEXi240]

RX-7 is not 4 clylinder.

Talon/Eclipse is faster, regardless of bolt-ons or not. Reliability was not part of the question.Supercharger MR-2Conquest/StarionTurbo Chrylser/Plymouth

I thought the thread was going to be something funny, like "would you dare say...I hope you die, I hope your car blows up, ect."

[sohc90adel]

very true good point, so..... mr2 thats it?

[sohc90adel]

whats the horspower on those cars?

[APEXi240]

DSM is 215.Conquest and Starion were around 175...I'm not positive though.The turbo Daytona came in different trims...175, and 205 I believe.There is also the turbo Probe, which was 205 I believe.

I forgot the exact number and am too lazy to look them up, but that is around what they are.

[BuudWeizErr]

Starions are tight. My moms boyfriend had one that I drove. It was more of a dog than my SR, but when boost hit, it was fun.

If I had actual mechanical skills, time and money, I would build up a starion, but meh, too much work.

[Wuss]

Am I missing something? The original post asked are there 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240sx, in the same price range?

240sx? meaning KA? I'm sorry, but the KA is a dog no matter how you mod it naturally aspirated. So the question that question is, yes, there are many 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240sx.

Now when you put turbos into the equation, that means you're spending that much more money. But drop 4k into boosting a cheap VW GTI 16v mk1-mk2, and you have yourself a 13-12 second car.

So for that price, the answer is still yes, there are many 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240.

So the general answer yes, there are many many cars , just as cheap, that is as fast or faster than a 240sx.

Now handling, this has to be teh cheapest car ever with this kind of handling capability. Having a blast ever since I bought the car.

[nissanrcer240]

Am I missing something? The original post asked are there 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240sx, in the same price range?

240sx? meaning KA? I'm sorry, but the KA is a dog no matter how you mod it naturally aspirated. So the question that question is, yes, there are many 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240sx.

Now when you put turbos into the equation, that means you're spending that much more money. But drop 4k into boosting a cheap VW GTI 16v mk1-mk2, and you have yourself a 13-12 second car.

So for that price, the answer is still yes, there are many 4 cylinder cars faster then a 240.

So the general answer yes, there are many many cars , just as cheap, that is as fast or faster than a 240sx.

Now handling, this has to be teh cheapest car ever with this kind of handling capability. Having a blast ever since I bought the car.

like i said, yes

[240SXedUp]

old 92ish Celica Alltrac turbo

[Antyoo]

while most alltracs are more expensive, yes you can sometimes find one for as low as $2500 for the 5th gen.

even cheaper for the 4th gen alltrac.

factory turbo, toyota quality, and the traction of AWD

[Rockenreno]

you can get a worn out mid 90s mr2 turbo for under $5k, probably better in both handling and 1/4 mile time. I still prefer my 240sx though

[JESTER]

The 240sx s13 is not the end all of 4 cylinders. It's a good car, but lets not go over board. It can be made to be a great car. Fast, awsome handling. But the DSM's and RX7 (not a 4 cylinder but hey, the turbo II kicks butt).

You could pick up an older model Impreza for cheap. They dont have as much horse power, but like the other poster said, AWD kicks serios butt. And Subaru's quality IMO is right there with Toyota.

[krazy skwerel]

I just wanted to jump in and give props to the starion/ conquest. Awsome little cars. I've been looking to buy one for quite a while 176hp, 223 torque. 2.6 liter 4 cyl. is a huge 4cyl. and it has the turbo. Very nice car. It's too bad so many are junked out.

[SeVa-S13]

And the fact that they were absolute electrical nightmares...

[Meantime]

I'm a Starion fan as well...I've always liked the flared fenders and deep-dish factory rims on the later ones ('87-'88). Black Starion, black leather int, all shined up, = mean machine.

Finding one in good nick is nearly impossible, however, at least around my area. Almost every one I've seen has been modified (and not in a good way).

Subaru Alcyone (XT) is another competitor for the S13...4 cylinder turbo (some) and AWD (some)...but they are total dogs performance-wise and pretty much inferior to the S13 in all aspects, IMO.

[Stuntman240]

dont diss the probe. its fast but highly unreliabe as a race/daily driver. go ka all the way. they fly if you know how to drive em.meaning go road racin', the 240 kicks *** on the track

[240SXedUp]

Probes suck. You disproved yourself in your reply.

[Stuntman240]

that was the point. the pos is still sittin in my driveway. does anyone want to blow it up 4 me?