Would you buy a hybrid G?

[etschell]

In light of this article I just read:

http://jalopnik.com/399942/nis...stack

[TeflonG35]

hybrids are a joke.

[Beancooker]

Too much money for the "advantage" of having a big heavy battery. No thanks.

But a turbocharged FJ20.

[SVTCOBRA]

There was a time when I thought I would NEVER own a V6!!! Back when I had my Mach 1.So, time will tell, but right now...NO!!!

[Focusedintntions]

Never ever would i buy a hybrid....sure they put fewer emission in the air as a car...but the process to build and create a hybrid...especially the batteries....cause more enviromental damage than any hummer ever has.....

Hybrids are a joke as being friendly to the enviro....best thing you can do for the enviro is keep driving the car you have so no more have to be made...

[gwoods]

+1!!!!!

Now a hydrogen fuel cell I might be interested in that!

[Jacko3]

Hybrids produce more power.

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I don't know if the whole CVTT + Battery + V6 appeal to me... I saw what Lexus is doing with the hybrids, and It's really stupid... It seems now Nissan/Infiniti are following suit.

Let's wait and see how gas prices will influence the manufacturers... 0 emmisions vehicles by 2012?

I'll bet they'll still be working on this till 2020... lol ... capitalism is a biatch.

[Jacko3]

I think what Nissan and Infiniti is trying to do is to produce more power but with very impressive gas mileage. This is where they differ from Lexus. How would you like to drive a a 350 HP, 310lb/ft of torque, 0 - 60 in 4.5 secs G-35 with 30 - 35 miles per gallon? Is this impossible, probably no.

Nissan never goes for a single goal---observe the design matra of the G-35 Coupe---affordable, fast, reliable, good-looking. Nissan has a natural philosophy of ensuring that there is power in their cars. Their next challenge is to produce that power with incredible gas mileage. I think they can do it. I feel HEV or EV will be the way to go to achieve that end. Ghosn is bent on driving Nissan to be an industry leader, while confounding the auto industry with all manner of unheard technology. If Nissan fails to be an industry leader, it will fall back to its pre-2001 state, when it almost became bankrupt as a company. The GT-R is already being studied by other auto manufactureres to figure out the trick behind its advanced technology and yet, its cheap pricing.

As you can see, Nissan has already set an industry standard with the GT-R. The GT-R by itself is just as powerful as any other car. But the difference in the GT-R and other comparable cars is, how do you load up a car with so much technology for the driver, and with so much advanced technology in design and manufacture for just $70K? You can see why the GT-R is really causing many auto manufacturers a lot of stress. And, this isn't the first time Nissan has done this sort of thing.

The G-35 Coupe achieved the same end in the luxury sports coupe segment when it first came out because not only was it powerful, it looked good, drove great, and was priced far lower than the BMW 3 -series. The G-35 coupe probably singlehandedly changed the face of sports luxury coupe forever. BMW struggled with their 3 series for a while because of the G-35 Coupe. Nissan woke BMW up from their slumber. And Nissan is about to awake Porsche from their slumber as well with the GT-R and the GT-R Spec V. Those who would ordinarily buy a Porsche 911 Turbo, are all ordering the GT-R---that is market share taken away from Porsche.

So, lets watch and see what Ghosn has in store for his HEV and EV vehicles. I have no doubt that it will be exciting, and I have no doubt it will be another industry stunner and stunt. Just my 2 cents. I could be wrong here

[BrandAidDesignG35]

I think what Nissan and Infiniti is trying to do is to produce more power but with very impressive gas mileage. This is where they differ from Lexus. How would you like to drive a a 350 HP, 310lb/ft of torque, 0 - 60 in 4.5 secs G-35 with 30 - 35 miles per gallon? Is this impossible, probably no.

Nissan never goes for a single goal---observe the design matra of the G-35 Coupe---affordable, fast, reliable, good-looking. Nissan has a natural philosophy of ensuring that there is power in their cars. Their next challenge is to produce that power with incredible gas mileage. I think they can do it. I feel HEV or EV will be the way to go to achieve that end. Ghosn is bent on driving Nissan to be an industry leader, while confounding the auto industry with all manner of unheard technology. If Nissan fails to be an industry leader, it will fall back to its pre-2001 state, when it almost became bankrupt as a company. The GT-R is already being studied by other auto manufactureres to figure out the trick behind its advanced technology and yet, its cheap pricing.

As you can see, Nissan has already set an industry standard with the GT-R. The GT-R by itself is just as powerful as any other car. But the difference in the GT-R and other comparable cars is, how do you load up a car with so much technology for the driver, and with so much advanced technology in design and manufacture for just $70K? You can see why the GT-R is really causing many auto manufacturers a lot of stress. And, this isn't the first time Nissan has done this sort of thing.

The G-35 Coupe achieved the same end in the luxury sports coupe segment when it first came out because not only was it powerful, it looked good, drove great, and was priced far lower than the BMW 3 -series. The G-35 coupe probably singlehandedly changed the face of sports luxury coupe forever. BMW struggled with their 3 series for a while because of the G-35 Coupe. Nissan woke BMW up from their slumber. And Nissan is about to awake Porsche from their slumber as well with the GT-R and the GT-R Spec V. Those who would ordinarily buy a Porsche 911 Turbo, are all ordering the GT-R---that is market share taken away from Porsche.

So, lets watch and see what Ghosn has in store for his HEV and EV vehicles. I have no doubt that it will be exciting, and I have no doubt it will be another industry stunner and stunt. Just my 2 cents. I could be wrong here

I bet it is possible to improve MPG in the G35, as any other car, there is always weight, efficiency, and new technology... I wouldn't be surprised if Nissan already created a powerful monster with 35+ mpg...

Goodness, the ZR1 vette can achieve 28hwy, I'm yet to see over 22mpg in my G, even on road trips... lol

I heard that Nissan 250GT can get over 30mpg, I can get up to 35mpg in my Altima, (5mt), but why these VQ's suck the gas back is beyond me... Well, I know, it's for safety reasons... Nissan turns up the fuel ratios in the Higher rpm to avoid running too lean...

If you drive any car hard, it's going to drink your fuel, we'll, except the really small engines/lightweight class.

[Kendahl]

It would depend on the details. If the result is a car that behaves like my G37S, but gets better gas mileage, I would have no problem with it. However, things like front wheel drive, no manual transmission or poor acceleration, handling and braking would take it off my list of acceptable candidates. Those are the reasons I didn't buy any of the currently available hybrids.

[smockers83]

Now a hydrogen fuel cell I might be interested in that!

Hydrogen is just as bad, if not worse than gasoline. Water vapor is a worse gas to emit than CO2.

[gwoods]

Hydrogen is just as bad, if not worse than gasoline. Water vapor is a worse gas to emit than CO2.

On what planet??

[ArEs23x]

Never ever would i buy a hybrid....sure they put fewer emission in the air as a car...but the process to build and create a hybrid...especially the batteries....cause more enviromental damage than any hummer ever has.....

Hybrids are a joke as being friendly to the enviro....best thing you can do for the enviro is keep driving the car you have so no more have to be made...

+2 The man is correct, the batteries can't even be recycled, I hate mostly all hybrids!

[Beancooker]

Hydrogen is just as bad, if not worse than gasoline. Water vapor is a worse gas to emit than CO2.

On what planet??

I'm with Jeff. What ya been puttin in your pipe Smock?

[TeflonG35]

I'm with Jeff. What ya been puttin in your pipe Smock?

Ive heard this argument before but I really forget the answer. I don't really understand it either. That would make the sun the worst polluter for evaporation countless amounts of water a day. Turning water into water vapor.

Who knows. I'm always up to learn something new.

[chonmoreno]

Hydrogen is just as bad, if not worse than gasoline. Water vapor is a worse gas to emit than CO2.

Water vapor = clouds = rain....whats wrong with that?

[smockers83]

Water vapor does = clouds, which does = rain. However, it doesn't always form into clouds and produce rain, and when it does its replaced with more water vapor due to natural vaporization. The reason its a worse gas to emit is because water vapor keeps in the heat better than CO2. Water vapor causes 36-70% of the greenhouse effect with the variations coming due to location (clouds affect climate differently than other atmospheric water vapor). CO2 on the other hand causes 9-26% of the effect.

Clouds keep the heat from the sun out and the heat from latent heat due to vaporization in. With more CO2 going into the atmosphere, it would mean more water vapor going up as well due to warmer temps. Clouds are believed to help control climate change in that if we do have warming, we have more clouds which reflect the sun's energy away from the surface, cooling the Earth over the long run.

If you've ever noticed that a cloudy night is most likely warmer than a clear night, its because of latent heat being held in.

[TeflonG35]

So you are saying that It would give heavily trafficked cities the feel of rain forests? Very hot and humid?

The amount of cars needed to do that would be huge... Plus I live in a very humid area. I dont think it would be noticed here.

[Jacko3]

My spidey senses are tingling again: seems a full scale explosion of chemistry and its associated discipline, is about to happen on this topic.

[TeflonG35]

When too much water goes into the air it comes down as rain.

I just feel like the affects of water vapor would eventually rain back down. While Co2 gas would continue to stay in the atmosphere.

[Jacko3]

That would generally be true. Air does not hold the water vapor. It just transports it. Thus, unlike C02, H2O will lose its heat to the surrounding air much faster than C02 would. Hydrogen atoms are more volatile than carbon atoms and thus less stable---see the periodic table. Thus C02 may give off more heat for a longer duration, than H20 generally, under the same pressure. This is one reason why C02 generates more heat than H20. And even more heat can be generated by N02. As you go down the periodic table, from Hydrogen to carbon and to Nitrogen, the more heat can be stored by the compounds of these elements. Thus, another reason why when you lean out your car for more performance, the N02 produced, stores and generates so much heat, which could damage your engine. With this in mind, imagine planet earth as a system like your VQ engine which if leaned out or asked to produce more, could potentially lead to excess N02 and C02 forming to trap/store heat in our environment, which is detrimental to the whole of the planet. H20, at most would lead to various forms of oxidation----rust, and perhaps humidification, evaporation, and condensation.

In the case of your tires, Nitrogen stores much of that heat and remains stable, and thus does not expand as much as air--which is actually a good quality to have in tires but a terrible quality to have around metal and engine parts where you want the heat to be dissipated very fast. I stand corrected.


Modified by Jacko3 at 1:28 PM 8/7/2008