Would you buy a Chevy

[nissangirl74]

...if you knew you could return it in 60 days if you didn't like it.

That's what Chevy is betting on. Welcome to the Chevy Confidence Plan. http://www.thecarconnection.com/news/10 ... nths-later

The only Chevy product I would be remotely interested in is a lifted Silverado crew cab which is neither practical or affordable -or- an XLR which doesn't qualify because of the year.

[themadscientist]

Here's a thought. Build a quality car at an affordable price with styling and functions that people want and provide customers with professional and sincere after care. Gimmicks are for companies that can't provide these basic things and have to reach desperately for something to offset that failure. Will they be offering Nomex suits with the purchase of a new Volt?

[Bubba1]

I suspect there are acres o' fine print restrictions. Other wise I'd buy a brand new Corvette Z06, flog it mercilessly at as many racetracks as I can, then return it 2 months later, with bologna skinned tires, burnt rotors with worn out pads and say didn't love it.

[Heavy]

^ "yeah idk i mean the car drove GREAT.... but my wife doesnt like the color so heres your keys back"

didnt dodge/chrysler do this not to long ago?

[themadscientist]

Don't mind that KA24 under the hood. My 240? Yeah it does have a throaty rumble and the nose is riding low, but that don't mean nothin.

[sx moneypit]

[frapjap]

I think this is the second time they've done this promotion. It must've worked out well the first time to do it again.

As for the original question, if I was broke or on really hard times, I might consider it. However, I don't doubt that the first two payments are huge, and that you'll need to go through their financer, never get your TT&T back, etc.

[SHIFT_COUPE]

This is a longer version of an extended test drive. I remember some manufacturers doing this not too long ago. I think its long enough for you to perhaps fall in love with the car and be blinded by shoddy craftsmanship.

[AppleBonker]

never get your TT&T back, etc.

You'll get sales tax back. But that's about it.

The Buyback Price does not include the costs of any taxes (other than sales taxes), licensing, titling or registration fees, insurance, non-GM dealer-installed accessories, aftermarket products or add-on equipment (other than factory options ordered with the vehicle), dealer fees of any kind, ancillary products including without limitation extended warranties or service contracts, finance charges, any negative equity (the amount by which a loan on a trade-in vehicle exceeds the dealer's purchase price for the trade-in) or any other expenses incurred by the Buyer in relation to taking delivery of the Eligible Vehicle.

I suspect there are acres o' fine print restrictions. Other wise I'd buy a brand new Corvette Z06, flog it mercilessly at as many racetracks as I can, then return it 2 months later, with bologna skinned tires, burnt rotors with worn out pads and say didn't love it.

I would expect they'd get out of it really easily in this case. There isn't tons of fine print, but there are a few catches that would make it painfully simple for Chevy to back out of the buyback if they really wanted to (I've deleted a number of the conditions leaving just, IMO, the important two):

In order for You to qualify for the repurchase of Your Eligible Vehicle:
• Your Eligible Vehicle must have no more than $300 of damage as determined by GM or GM's agent.. Such damage may include, without limitation, internal or external scratches, scrapes, dents, odors, rips, burns, etc.
• Your Eligible Vehicle must not have incurred damage or non-warranted repairs in excess of $300, regardless of whether such damage has been repaired.

Scuffing an interior panel could very easily amount to $300 worth of damages by the dealer's estimate.

[OriginalWheelman]

* FAIL * Read it wrong, disregard.

[Jesda]

In my price range, I would buy a Malibu. Unfortunately, the generation that I like has been discontinued:

[Kompresshun]

If we're just talking Chevy, i'd buy a new Camaro happily. There isn't much else though i'd consider though.

If we can factor in the other brands, then heck yes I would buy one. I would be all over a Buick or a Cadillac, especially a CTS-V.

[MinisterofDOOM]

There are a few Chevy's I'd buy even without the confidence plan (terrible name).

Corvette
Camaro
Malibu (like Jesda, I'd go with the just-retired model)

It's too bad it doesn't extend to other GM brands, though. Because I'd rather have an Acadia than a Traverse. Wait a minute I don't buy crossovers. So nevermind.

In my price range, I would buy a Malibu. Unfortunately, the generation that I like has been discontinued

I've seen the new model on the road and in parking lots, and I still like the looks. Just not as much. It's a little taller/narrower/stubbier and the styling is more exaggerated. It looks more like a small car than the last model did. And of course that lack of legroom is a killer. Midsize cars are small enough in general already. The one thing I like better about the new model is the tail lights. I never liked the rear fascia of the last model...the only part I didn't like. The tail lights and trunk sculpting were weird and out of left field.

[keepitsimplestupid]

No i would never buy a GM or Chevy since you asked, out of the Big Three Ford is offering some awesome new models and i am not a domestic fan one bit.

[s0m3th1ngAZ]

The corvette is the only car they produce that even remotely falls within my "must have" radar. Ford, on the other hand, offers several cars I wouldn't mind owning. Flex, Focus ST, Mustang GT/V6.
And the just discontinued malibu is f*** terrible. Awful ride quality, confused automatic, chintzy interior...the only redeeming feature was the smooth direct injected v6 and interior space (I drove one over 1,000 miles)

[MinisterofDOOM]

Here's a thought. Build a quality car at an affordable price with styling and functions that people want and provide customers with professional and sincere after care. Gimmicks are for companies that can't provide these basic things and have to reach desperately for something to offset that failure. Will they be offering Nomex suits with the purchase of a new Volt?

I hate to disagree with the Mad One, but you've got it backward. Sort of.
GM is doing this because ignorant consumers, ignorant media, and PAST years of building s*** have stained their reputation.
Today they ARE building quality cars at affordable prices with styling and functions people want. The problem is that they're having trouble proving it, because consumers still think the Camry is the most reliable car on earth and everything else is s***. And they're having trouble earning respect because they took bailout money (something I as a GM fan have been displeased with all along).
GM has actually done very well as far as keeping up with a market that has changed drastically over a short amount of time. They offer a huge variety of products that people want and buy. But their IMAGE still hurts, and that costs them sales. This is one approach at correcting that last problem. This is a way of eliminating some of the perceived risk of buying GM for people who test drive a Chevy and like it but still think it's 1998 and the Camry is built to survive nuclear wars.

Lemme break it down. This is not opinion. It's measurable, demonstrable, and fact.
Cruze > Corolla and Civic
Malibu> Camry and Accord
Silverado > Tundra and Ridgelahahahahahahahahahahaha
Tahoe/Suburban > Sequoia and nothing
Traverse > Highlander and (barely) Pilot (I prefer the Pilot's styling but the Chevy's everything else)
ZR1 > LFA and Hybrid NSXahahahahahahaAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Camaro > Oh yeah Toyota doesn't make fun cars. And uh...Honda...uh. s***.
Sonic > Yaris (really, how do you do worse than a Yaris. Wait, wait...Smart.) (but maybe not Fit...I admit I have little experience with them).
The only place where Toyota or Honda beat Chevy is where Chevy doesn't have a product. Like the 4Runner. Or...uh...unibody crossover with a trunk in its bed and the engine turned the wrong effing way and bedsides too high to reach over easily.

And the just discontinued malibu is f**king terrible. Awful ride quality, confused automatic, chintzy interior...the only redeeming feature was the smooth direct injected v6 and interior space (I drove one over 1,000 miles)

The thing about the Malibu is that there's a big variance in equipment. The options for most of its run had an old-school level of diversity. Lots of engine options, lots of transmission options, and lots of trim options, and you could pretty much mix-and-match at your leisure. It wasn't like most modern cars where if you buy a V6 you have to get the leather and spoiler and sunroof and nav and other s***. You could get a V6 stripper or a fully-loaded four. If you got the 3.5 with the four speed and the lower-end packages, it might end up like you described. But an LZ with the 3.6 and the 6 speed is a whole different animal. You could even get the 6-speed with ecotec, which ended up being a fairly nice combo as well.

But it's also hard to tell the different trim levels apart from the outside. The bodywork is equally nice and well-assembled from the LS all the way up to the fancy LZ. There's not even much badging to tell them apart. It really is a lot like ordering a car in the '60s. Pick an engine, pick a transmission, pick your interior setup, pick your extras, and you're set.

And that six is more than just smooth. Torque curve flatter than kansas, sounds great, revs nice, and gets excellent fuel economy. I don't know what the rest of the world is doing with their V6s, but if I was anyone but Nissan or GM I'd be TERRIFIED of the competition right now. GM's doing with normal aspiration what Ford is failing to do with lots of boost. Granted the LFX is not exactly an LY7 but they share strengths...just that one's major league and the other's amateur.

[themadscientist]

Malibu? Only this one please. 1967 SS 396 big block.

[MinisterofDOOM]

Hell yeah. But I prefer '66 for the front end.

[Jesda]

The Cruze and Sonic are unexpectedly good cars for their class. They feel like more substantial vehicles than their prices suggest.

Both cars had some first-year teething problems, but otherwise they've been decent.

[Jesda]

Also, I rented a Saturn Aura and put 10,000 miles on it in 2008. I went everywhere -- desert interstates, the Pacific Ocean, Portland, Seattle, midwest swamps, and Utah's Bonneville Salt Flats, and the darn thing held together well. Needed brake pads and rotors turned when I gave it back, but otherwise the car held together nicely.

The power, torque, and interior layout were exceptional. Difference between the 3.6L Aura and 3.6L Malibu is the ease of ingress/egress, which some say is a challenge with the formally shaped Malibu and the suspension which is a bit softer on the Chevy. I prefer the Malibu's interior to the Aura.

Overall, GM did a pretty good job with their Epsilon sedans.

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I dont normally go for pedestrian mid-sizers, but I'd gladly buy one of these.

[OriginalWheelman]

Wasn't the Aura a re-badged Astra?

[MinisterofDOOM]

Aura was a rebadged Insignia. Saturn sold rebadged Astras, too, but they were still called Astras. The Astra was the little hatch.
The Sky war yet another Opel rebadge. It was an Opel GT.

[Bubba1]

Wasn't the Aura a re-badged Astra?

I believe the Astra was a smaller car and the Aura was a rebadged Opel Vestra. I've considered Saturns competent rental cars (before the brand went kaput), but not good enough to make me consider buying one.

[Jesda]

Vehicles based on the Epsilon I platform:

Regular
2002 Opel Vectra sedan and hatch
2003 Saab 9-3
2004 Chevrolet Malibu
2006 Cadillac BLS

Extended
2002 Opel Vectra Caravan
2003 Opel Signum
2004 Chevrolet Malibu Maxx
2005 Pontiac G6
2005 Fiat Croma
2007 Saturn Aura
2008 Chevrolet Malibu

[Jesda]

Current and announced vehicles built on Epsilon II:
2008 Opel Insignia, Buick Regal (SWB)
2010 Buick LaCrosse/Alpheon (LWB)
2010 Saab 9-5 (LWB)
2013 Chevrolet Malibu, Holden Malibu (SWB)

Concept vehicles built on Epsilon II:
2007 Buick Riviera
2007 Opel GTC
2006 Saab Aero X

Potential future vehicles to be built on Epsilon II:
Roewe 750 (SWB)
MG 7 (SWB)

Super Epsilon II

Current and announced vehicles built on Super Epsilon II:
2013 Cadillac XTS
2014 Chevrolet Impala

[Rev_D21]

Only old Chevy's...and not only their muscle cars either. I'd love a 39 pickup truck or even a 50's era truck. I'd also say YES! to an 88 to 90 1500 2wd 305 short box manual...I think those are cool looking Chevy's. The new stuff really seems like focus group stuff instead of actual car designers work. Bores me to death.

[Mr1der]

I found myself boxed in by a couple CTS-V's yesterday. One a black coupe, the other a pearl white sedan. I need one of those cars in my life.

[nissangirl74]

I found myself boxed in by a couple CTS-V's yesterday. One a black coupe, the other a pearl white sedan. I need one of those cars in my life.

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