Would installing this be a waste of time(TE04H)

[rousie13]

I'm getting a TE04H turbo free (just rebuilt). Would this be a waste of time installing on my car? I know it's very small and won't do that much for me, but will it help a little? I'm going with a T3/T4 next winter, so should I just wait until then or install the TEO4H and then upgrade to the T3/T4 when I get it. I know not to expect much from the TEO4H, but will it give me any kind of HP increase or just hurt my motor?

[C-Kwik]

I don't have any spec sheets on that turbo. I will say this though. If the dimensions of the turbo are not the same as what you might upgrade to later, you might just want to wait. Otherwise you will have to have whatever piping you had made, modified or remade.

[03frontyka24]

There are a couple different flavors of this turbo was used on dodge 2.2 and 2.5 liters with 6-9 lbs of boost. The 1989+ model for the 2.5 liter is the best, but it is still very small. Will it work? Yes, it would spool quick, but at high RPMs it will choke.

If your getting a T3/T4 later I would wait.

[rousie13]

Thanks for the info. I didn't know the psi that it ran. It's from an 89 lebaron turbo by the way.

[rousie13]

There are a couple different flavors of this turbo was used on dodge 2.2 and 2.5 liters with 6-9 lbs of boost. The 1989+ model for the 2.5 liter is the best, but it is still very small. Will it work? Yes, it would spool quick, but at high RPMs it will choke.

If your getting a T3/T4 later I would wait.

Would this turbo still pull through around 5k or so? If I can get the money together before the spring, I'll definately go with the T3/T4, but if not, I'd like to still have my car turbocharged(using the smaller turbo). I'm not expecting a ton of hp from the smaller turbo, just a little kick for right now.

[03frontyka24]

If that car had the 2.5 (I believe it did) then it is the better turbo. The engines dodge used in these cars had very poor head flow, so even though the turbo was used on a 2.5 it isn't great on a 2.4. It does have an internal wastegate and it would be good for a KA24 that wanted spool quick with mild boost and didn't want to go over 6k RPM's, exhaust restriction is the biggest problem with the TE04H.

You could use it, but I wouldn't be suprised if the flange didn't match the T3/4, meaning when you did put on the bigger turbo you migh have to redrill the flanges and even change the oil fittings.

[rousie13]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...33742

Heres a picture of the turbo. It's small, but I'm thinking it will keep the boost down on my higher mileage motor allowing it to last the summer.

[ftrs13]

thats the cleanest turbo Ive ever seen come out of a 91

[03frontyka24]

I hate it when people spray paint turbos.

The one thing I would do is put a pyrometer on the exhaust manifold to make certain you don't go above 1250 at the turbine inlet, the restrictive outlet isn't good for exhaust temps.

The turbo was matched to a 2.5 that flowed considerably worse than the KA24. It should give you a noticable power boost, but you won't be reving high with much efficiency, likely you will want to rip it off and put on a T3/4 a week after you get used to it.

Of course that is how it is with with every mod, you always end up wanting more. The only time I was happy was with a built 396 in my old 71 camaro, I could punch it doing 60 without a downshift and start both rear tires smoking as I drifted sideways. Would freak everyone out on the interstate.

Happy until I figured out my best MPG was 7, that is.

[rousie13]

The only thing I'm thinking of with the TE04H is that it will keep me from over revving my motor(around 6k max), which is good because my motor has higher miles on it. I plan on rebuilding my motor in a year(when I go on co-op and have a real job for a while), getting a FMIC, and would get a larger turbo then if I put the smaller one on now. I'm just thinking if I go with the larger turbo now, I will over rev because I'd have the boost and kill my motor halfway through the summer. But I still want boost and the TEO4H would give it to me. Sorry for all the replies.

[03frontyka24]

It won't keep you from overreving, it will heat up and lose a lot of boost at high revs. They aren't the same thing.

The way to build a turbo setup is figure out what you want and buy what you need. You can probably get a decent boost, around 9 pounds off this unit with very little lag, at the expense of upper end.

[rousie13]

One final question, what is the internal wastegate set at? You said you can get about 6-9psi....so is it set at 6?

[rousie13]

And when I said it would keep me from overreving, I meant that I'd know it would be pointless to rev that high so I wouldn't do it. But if I had a turbo that produced power higher into the rpm scale, I'd do it. Not the best logic, but my thinking on it.

[03frontyka24]

One final question, what is the internal wastegate set at? You said you can get about 6-9psi....so is it set at 6?

6-9 is the stock boost spec for dodge 4 bangers. If I were you I would find a labaron forum and start asking the tech questions on finding out exactly what the specs of that turbo are, you can probably mod it for more boost.

I know what you mean about reving, but sooner or later you will be in a situation where you will run at higher RPM's, and you will still have some boost there, alllI am saying is watch your temps, you can melt small turbos pretty easily.

[rousie13]

I think those turbos are oil and water cooled, so that will help a little bit. Any pointers on keeping that lil sucker cool? haha

[rousie13]

I've found out that this turbo can run 21psi max and has a 7psi wastegate. I also read that the car that I'm getting it from might hae a Greddy T3, not the TE04H, which would be awesome. I could use the T3, then rebuild it next winter and turn it into a T3/T4 or T4/T3. I really hope it's the T3 and in decent shape. Guess I'll find out next Tuesday.