I'm looking into a set of staggered Work XD9 rims for the car.
Wondering if that would look great with stretch rubber and clears the Z32 30mm brakes.
The other option is to go 18 x 9 +20 in all four corners, what do you think is the better choice?
Thanks!
Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 rear fits nicely on S13?
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 rear fits nicely on S13? (JDMSIL80)
the better choice is personal preference.
I run 18x9+20 all around just fine - needed a roll and slight pull.
If you are gonna run 8.5, you should run a lower offset, possibly 15 or 20 as well just for starters.
I run 18x9+20 all around just fine - needed a roll and slight pull.
If you are gonna run 8.5, you should run a lower offset, possibly 15 or 20 as well just for starters.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
My car will be lowered with HKS Hipermax D coilovers. The XD9 wheels only come in +25 offset for 17 x 8.5, so I might need a 5mm or 10mm spacer to clear the brakes.
My concern now is whether it will rub the fender or coilver, what do you think?
My concern now is whether it will rub the fender or coilver, what do you think?
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
the xd rims should clear z-brakes - offset doesn't matter here...
it won't rub the fenders, you have plenty of room.
it will be really close to the coilovers, should work if you don't run too crazy a tire.
I run 18x9+20 in the front, which is 1mm closer to the coilover than you - I have kts coilovers, most of them are the same, so you should be fine.
I'd try to ask the ppl you are buying the rims & coilovers from - since they would probably get the most info from other ppl who have already bought these b4.
it won't rub the fenders, you have plenty of room.
it will be really close to the coilovers, should work if you don't run too crazy a tire.
I run 18x9+20 in the front, which is 1mm closer to the coilover than you - I have kts coilovers, most of them are the same, so you should be fine.
I'd try to ask the ppl you are buying the rims & coilovers from - since they would probably get the most info from other ppl who have already bought these b4.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
The Work XD9 rims is still in production status, so the shop cannot confirm whether they would clear the brakes. Because the rim is straight spoke deep dish design, Im thinking it might be tight and would not clear the calipers. I might need to run a spacer.
What size of tires do you run?
I'm planning to run 225/45/17 front and 245/40/18 rear, would that rub on me?
What size of tires do you run?
I'm planning to run 225/45/17 front and 245/40/18 rear, would that rub on me?
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
You're trying to get in on the Aspec GB on zilvia rite? Logan is a cool guy and said basically "for sure" they will clear - as soon as a set comes in, he can really test fit.
I've looked @ the xd, they are "straight" spoke, but it's not straight from offset rim lip if you know what i'm saying, it sort of curves out of the hub first, then goes up (looking from inside of the rim), anyway, mute issue once the rims come in.
I'm running 225/40 all around.
I don't know if you'll have an issue or not - I know that Logan from Aspec would know this, you can aim or email him - he's had so many customers w/ all sorts of different setups, he can tell you almost for sure what will work and what won't.
I've looked @ the xd, they are "straight" spoke, but it's not straight from offset rim lip if you know what i'm saying, it sort of curves out of the hub first, then goes up (looking from inside of the rim), anyway, mute issue once the rims come in.
I'm running 225/40 all around.
I don't know if you'll have an issue or not - I know that Logan from Aspec would know this, you can aim or email him - he's had so many customers w/ all sorts of different setups, he can tell you almost for sure what will work and what won't.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
Im actually buying the rims from a local dealer since I live in Canada, they cost too much for shipping & handling charges to bring them in from the states.
I appreciate your help bro, it really helped me in making the decision.
I appreciate your help bro, it really helped me in making the decision.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
Hey bro, if given the choice for the rear size, would you rather go:
17 x 9.5 +17 or 17 x 9.5 +28
These sizes give the deeper lip in the back than the 18 x 9, thanks!
17 x 9.5 +17 or 17 x 9.5 +28
These sizes give the deeper lip in the back than the 18 x 9, thanks!
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
Hahahahaha, silly ricer!!!
It's ok, I'm gonna answer your question cuz I'm ricey as fock too.
ANYWAYYYYY,
Here's the advantage and disadvantage (w/ stock fenders):
x9.5 +17 - you will need to pull more. More likely than not you will have to run a stretched tire. More lip. - you can run a larger tire IF the body work is done correctly to prevent rubbing on fenders.
x9.5 +28 - you probably only have to roll and very slight pull. You will probably be able to run a bigger tire relative to the amount of pulling that will be done. less lip.
A lot of ppl wanna run a stretched tire so that doesn't matter for some.
It really depends on how much work you can afford/want to do on the body & what tire size you want to run (no one is going to notice about 10mm of lip unless two ppl w/ the same rims diff offset park right next to eachother and you point it out).
If you are gonna keep stock body fenders w/ lil modification, I'd go w/ +28.
If you are gonna go ballsy and pull like no other or go wide body fenders, I'd go w/ the lowest offset you can find.
It's ok, I'm gonna answer your question cuz I'm ricey as fock too.
ANYWAYYYYY,
Here's the advantage and disadvantage (w/ stock fenders):
x9.5 +17 - you will need to pull more. More likely than not you will have to run a stretched tire. More lip. - you can run a larger tire IF the body work is done correctly to prevent rubbing on fenders.
x9.5 +28 - you probably only have to roll and very slight pull. You will probably be able to run a bigger tire relative to the amount of pulling that will be done. less lip.
A lot of ppl wanna run a stretched tire so that doesn't matter for some.
It really depends on how much work you can afford/want to do on the body & what tire size you want to run (no one is going to notice about 10mm of lip unless two ppl w/ the same rims diff offset park right next to eachother and you point it out).
If you are gonna keep stock body fenders w/ lil modification, I'd go w/ +28.
If you are gonna go ballsy and pull like no other or go wide body fenders, I'd go w/ the lowest offset you can find.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
I appreciate your help understand man..hahahahaa... pls bear with me..
Because the XD9 is one piece design, the width of the lip is only affected by the width of the rim, not the offset.
In other words, the lip for 9.5" in either +17 or +28 will be identical. Only differences the wheel will set closer or further to the wheel fender.
I was more concerned with +28 that may not clear the coilovers, for your advice it looks like I'll be safe from that, just a matter of fender rolling or pulling.
How low did you lower your car? would a less drop or negative camber prevent the need of fender work?
Since Im going to be running HKS Hiper D which has independent height adjustment, I will have some room to adjust without affecting the ride.
Because the XD9 is one piece design, the width of the lip is only affected by the width of the rim, not the offset.
In other words, the lip for 9.5" in either +17 or +28 will be identical. Only differences the wheel will set closer or further to the wheel fender.
I was more concerned with +28 that may not clear the coilovers, for your advice it looks like I'll be safe from that, just a matter of fender rolling or pulling.
How low did you lower your car? would a less drop or negative camber prevent the need of fender work?
Since Im going to be running HKS Hiper D which has independent height adjustment, I will have some room to adjust without affecting the ride.
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
You "should" be fine in the rear.
Good to know that the lip is the same - then you have nothing to worry bout .
If you watch those option/jdm videos, you will see that a popular conservative size is 18x9.5 +35. Minor rolling was required for those cars because they dropped it as low as they could and ran some not super stretched tires.
The plus 17 will be good only if you can get the fender clearance to work right - then you can run a super fatty tire!
I actually raised my car back up, so I went from about 3"+ or so lowered to around 2" or so now. The ride is much better and handling felt better too (less bumpsteer, etc), haha.
I run about -2 degrees camber on my setup and the rims stick out juuussttt a little. Nothing a lil pulling won't fix when I have the time.
The more negative camber you run, the less you have to pull obviously.
GOOD LUCK! And you better be postin pics!
Good to know that the lip is the same - then you have nothing to worry bout .
If you watch those option/jdm videos, you will see that a popular conservative size is 18x9.5 +35. Minor rolling was required for those cars because they dropped it as low as they could and ran some not super stretched tires.
The plus 17 will be good only if you can get the fender clearance to work right - then you can run a super fatty tire!
I actually raised my car back up, so I went from about 3"+ or so lowered to around 2" or so now. The ride is much better and handling felt better too (less bumpsteer, etc), haha.
I run about -2 degrees camber on my setup and the rims stick out juuussttt a little. Nothing a lil pulling won't fix when I have the time.
The more negative camber you run, the less you have to pull obviously.
GOOD LUCK! And you better be postin pics!
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
Having you on this forum is such an asset, you're very helpful and filled with knowledge!
I've pretty much decided on the size I want for 17's is 8.5 +25 front & 9.5 +28 rear. They should fit stock fender with very minor modifications.
Now if I want to go even bigger, the other option is going for 18 x 9 +20 in the front, and something wider in the back for staggered setup.
You mentioned the popular conservative size is 18 x 9.5 +35 in the rear.
My question is would 18 x 10 +38 fit just as well or am I really pushing it? The XD9 happened to have these sizes to choose from so I wonder if this would work as well.
You advise is hugely appreciated!
I've pretty much decided on the size I want for 17's is 8.5 +25 front & 9.5 +28 rear. They should fit stock fender with very minor modifications.
Now if I want to go even bigger, the other option is going for 18 x 9 +20 in the front, and something wider in the back for staggered setup.
You mentioned the popular conservative size is 18 x 9.5 +35 in the rear.
My question is would 18 x 10 +38 fit just as well or am I really pushing it? The XD9 happened to have these sizes to choose from so I wonder if this would work as well.
You advise is hugely appreciated!
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
No problem, there's lots of other forum members w/ much better rim offset/fitment experience on this board. I just happened to own a few sets of rims w/ different offsets/etc.
I wouldn't try the x10 unless you go +2X. It just starts getting way too close. x9.5 +35 is really close to pushing it already.
Of course, the only real way to know is try it, haha. But could be an expensive trial unless you know the owner.
You can also wait while a bunch of ppl get these rims and try out the different sizes.
Good luck!
I wouldn't try the x10 unless you go +2X. It just starts getting way too close. x9.5 +35 is really close to pushing it already.
Of course, the only real way to know is try it, haha. But could be an expensive trial unless you know the owner.
You can also wait while a bunch of ppl get these rims and try out the different sizes.
Good luck!
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (brokeAs240sx)
Hey I found this site very helpful in calculating rims & tires combination:
http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm
Going from 18 x 9.5 +35 to 18 x 10.0 +38 with 255/35/18 tire gives the following changes:
Wheel Inboard increase (inches): 0.368 Wheel Outboard increase (inches): 0.131 Tire /w Wheel Inboard increase (inches): 0.118 Tire /w Wheel Outboard increase (inches): - 0.118 Effect on tire track (inches): - 0.24
The changes were actually much smaller than I thought it would, but anyway if the 9.5 was extremely tight, then this might just be the borderline when it start rubbing. What do you think?
To be on the safe side, looks like 17's would be better to go for my application. I'd most likely get the (Work Metal Buffing) chrome finish to have a bigger contrast with my navy blue car
http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm
Going from 18 x 9.5 +35 to 18 x 10.0 +38 with 255/35/18 tire gives the following changes:
Wheel Inboard increase (inches): 0.368 Wheel Outboard increase (inches): 0.131 Tire /w Wheel Inboard increase (inches): 0.118 Tire /w Wheel Outboard increase (inches): - 0.118 Effect on tire track (inches): - 0.24
The changes were actually much smaller than I thought it would, but anyway if the 9.5 was extremely tight, then this might just be the borderline when it start rubbing. What do you think?
To be on the safe side, looks like 17's would be better to go for my application. I'd most likely get the (Work Metal Buffing) chrome finish to have a bigger contrast with my navy blue car
Re: Would 17 x 8.5 + 25 front & 18 x 9 +20 r ... (JDMSIL80)
That page is awesome. I've seen wheel offset calcs before but nothing where you could select tire size as well. This takes the worry out of ordering new wheels/tires.JDMSIL80 wrote:Hey I found this site very helpful in calculating rims & tires combination:
http://gs.tolan-hoechst.com/tirecalc.htm
Thank you!
JV.