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Information on the naturally-aspirated KA24E and KA24DE engines.
B2R3Y
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Ok with my previous post being cloed b4 any response, i would like to rephrase my post.

I just bought a '93 S13 with 38K on it . its a 5-speed KA24DE with clean engine bay no defects at all on the interior or exterior.

I have done a share of reading (40+ hours atleast) on this site and have absorabed more than a bit of information about turbos and the Ka24DE. But i searched and found no one with results of a T3 Garrett turbo on a Ka engine. I have one my friend wants to sell me with an intercooler with for $200 and what are the potentials of this turbo (was told it will max boost 20psi). Should i wait for a better turbo or get this and thensave up. Im looking to run atleast low 13's with this but will i need a bigger turbo, i know im going with bigger cams and rebuilt engine. I want an everyday driver but something i can crank up the boost a lil and spank some serious ***.

Anyways plez keep this open for user opinions of this engine and potential of what i have in mind and any other plans that i should think about. Thanks again


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What trim is the T3. By trim I mean what size exhaust and what size compressor is it.

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A T3 should work, but is a little small for my tastes. It should respond very quickly, but will probably choke the motor a bit at higher RPM's. And as you start to boost more, the efficiency will probably move out of the compressor's efficiency range as you rev higher. But there are a few different T3 compressors so it would depend on which one you get.

Nice find on the low mileage S13 btw...

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Thanks man it was hard to find but i bought it off a lady that i saw at work one day and asked her about her car she said she won it in a raffle drawing in 93 and never really drove it but wanted to selll it for 5500 witch i thought was hi but i talked her down to 4500 cash and there was no dings scratches or anythign on the exterior and nothing wrong on the interior so it was a good buy.

As for the trim i have no idea yet i am getting it hopefully wtihin the next week or week in a 1/2 but it came out of a old Mitsubishi Starion if thats helps any.

Would anyone happen to have any links to a performance shop that would carry a good header for this turbo and do u think 248 cams on intake and exaust would work well with this set up boosting around 10 psi?

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F-Max and Turbonetics carries manifolds that work with T3 turbines. I think there is a recent post somewhere that may have had a few others. The Turbonetics mani is the revhard mani. I think Turbonetics bought out revhard, but don't quote me on it. It's just what I heard and a turbonetics rep did tell me at SEMA it is the rev-hard mani that it in their catalog. The revhard mani may have fitment issues in the 240sx with a T3 turbine as it locates it very close to the brake master cylinder. The T04 on-center turbine clears much better.

The F-Max mani is log-style and fits very low as it mounts sideways, where as the Revhard is a top-mount. You may be able to get the revhard mani cheaper through NSport or XS Engineering as well.

http://www.f-max.comhttp://www.turboneticsinc.com

As far as being out of a Starion, I don't know the specs. If you can find them, I'd be happy to look at the compressor map and tell you what I think. But even then, Personally, I would go bigger.

Not sure about the cams. I speculate that it may move the torque peak up to a higher RPM, but there may be a little more overlap. If there is, the turbo may just push some of the air through the motor and out the exhaust. A little bit of this is fine, but too much and you'll end up working against your turbo to a small extent.

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I think I'll end up going with the F-max mani considering that it mounts low (not something im to fond of but it seems easier). With the Turbonetics mani being close to the brake master cylinder, I dont want to buy it then have trouple getting everything to fit correctly.

As for the turbo specs I have no idea, I looked around for specs on it but they were all in Au. format witch i dunno how to read haha. But for $200 what can I say. I think is a pretty decent buy considering that the intercooler comes with it. Do u think i could pick up a better turbo with intercooler off a differnet car for anywhere near the same price? If so what kinda car and turbo do u recommend?

Im on a tyte budget as most of us are even tho my parents just got a 1/2 million dollar settlement hehe. But i want to get everything for as cheap as i can but quality and something tha ti can everyday drive as well as spank all teh rice around my town.

Also, I have a friend with a yellow '93 s13 ka24de and he just had to replace the transmission but also ordered teh ACT Stage 4 clutch system for his car and 4th gear scratches are hit sometimes but getting used to it and the jerkyness of how the clutch catches didnt take long. What effect would a ACT Stage 5 clutch setup perform like on the turbo setup and as an everyday driver?

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248 cams will work fine for a turbo. they dont have much more over lap than the stock ones. They are just much taller than the stock cams.

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Are you saying the 248 cams have a higher lift then the stock cams? Also is the duration actual or just stated? (Is it actually 248 Deg @ .050")

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248 degrees the duration is 390 I believe.

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Thanks for the advice on the cams, I am just going to pull them outta an old Altima in a junk yard and use them cuz they're cams ( well one of them) have more duration.

Also about the ACT clutches, anyone who has one please post what its like and what mods u have to go with it. im thinking about getting a Stage 5 ACT clutch system and i wanna know what its going to be like as a daily driver. Im sure out there has one of these. Please let me know what its like!

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NO ALTIMA'S have these cam that I know of. You can only get these cams from an 91 240sx THATS IT.

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I was told that some of the older Altimas have the KA24DE engine and have the same intake cam as the 240 does but the exaust is a 248 instead of the stock 240 duration on the ka's in the 240's. ????? Let me know.

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I am Technoman wrote:You can only get these cams from an 91 240sx THATS IT.
you can get the cams from ANY S13 DOHC (91-94).

-demetrius

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Well i have been told that the 240sx KADE engines have 240-248 cams where the Altimas have 248-248. That is y i asked about the cams and everything. Does anyone know anything about this?

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demcj wrote:you can get the cams from ANY S13 DOHC (91-94).

-demetrius


Right.

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I am just going to pull them outta an old Altima in a junk yard and use them cuz they're cams ( well one of them) have more duration.

I was told that some of the older Altimas have the KA24DE engine and have the same intake cam as the 240 does but the exaust is a 248 instead of the stock 240 duration on the ka's in the 240's. ????? Let me know.

Well i have been told that the 240sx KADE engines have 240-248 cams where the Altimas have 248-248. That is y i asked about the cams and everything. Does anyone know anything about this?

ok, you are wrong, wrong AND wrong

Does anyone truly think the cams in altimas(2.4's) are different?

get a life

B2R3Y
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Ok new break as for the Altima Cams working, they do not! So i was thinking insted of using the stock 240/248 intake/exaust that i would order a 248 intake cam but how would this react with my turbo? Also again has anyone seen the real effects of a Stage. 5 ACT clutch on a Turbo Ka and what is the driveability like?

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B2R3Y wrote:Ok new break as for the Altima Cams working, they do not!


Good thinking, welcome

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double post, ma bad


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