Wiseco pistons + Stock rods?

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Lopin18
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Quick question here:

KA24e stock

i can buy a nice set of Wiseco pistons for the KA24 (Guy ordered K24 pistos and got KA24 lol noone uses ka24s here in the dom rep)

so can i put those wisecos on my stock rods??? im going turbo with low psi so i figured having nice pistons at least would save me from any Ringland problems...

it workS? Thx!


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I don't see why you couldn't.

If you can wait a little more and save up some more money, you might want to do everything at once. Such as rods, oil/water pumps, all that good stuff.

Lopin18
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Ill see how far i can go but for 150 dollars those pistons are a nice addon, but im ready tight with the snail, tunning stuff, and manifold fabrication etc... :P

Thanks man

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If you're going to do pistons just get rods as well. Trust me on this.

It isn't going to be just $150 anyways. New pistons require that the cyls be bored and honed, the bearings clearanced, the rings fitted, new headgasket at a minimum, assembly, etc etc etc. You can probably do some of it on your own, but definitely not all. ...So you're talking machine shop labor + + + + +

Once you start replacing lower end parts you're in a whole new ballgame, and my experience has been if you're going to do it- do it right or dont do it at all.

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^ Amen hallelujah!!

Spend another $400 for some eagle rods and you wont have any doubts when you hit 20psi. Also increases you car's value having a 'built motor'.

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You can use stock bore pistons, use a cylinder hone and replace the bearings with factory spec stock sizes as well. I've swapped out pistons without coming NEAR a machine shop.

It should be noted that the rods are the weak point, NOT the pistons.

But I agree with the consensus...swap all or none.

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WDRacing wrote:You can use stock bore pistons, use a cylinder hone and replace the bearings with factory spec stock sizes as well. I've swapped out pistons without coming NEAR a machine shop.

It should be noted that the rods are the weak point, NOT the pistons.

But I agree with the consensus...swap all or none.
+1, if you're putting all that money into it then do it right. There was a guy on the forum who only upgrade piston and kept rod stock. guess what happened, happy boost and Booom bent rod. ended up costing more.


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Thats what Foster (Fiznat) did. Bought a full standalone ecu, had alcohol injection and a nice setup as far as turbo and mani go. But only upgraded the pistons...a short while later, like a month or two...he tossed the #3 rod through the block.

A few months after that, I did the same thing.

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I can relate, i ordered KA24 bearings once and got K series honda bearings, man was that sweet!

Cory bent all 4 rods at least twice, rods are def the weak link. As long as your tune is good the pistons will hold up.

If you can get a good deal on them sure, go for it. I would just do a stock block motor and keep the forged pistons till you have enough cash to do a forged short block. Get another Ka, build it up, and swap the engine in at your leisure.

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Will do, i have 2 engines right now, both running, one is mounted KA24e NA Drifting it right now lol, and the other one is in my house.

Lol i got some pretty heavy duty friends here who assemble sr20, rotaries anyhting, mech tech guys , right now im gonna low boost turbo my current engine hitting 6-8 psi as a beginning project and ill be building the other engine as i go.

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If you get a turbo that will spool fast enough, you can lower your rpm and reduce the stress on the rods. That way you can run a butt load of boost, make good power and keep the stock internals.

RPM kills rods faster then torque imo. When you add both, you get a bad combo.

Which is another reason I decided to go with a supercharger. I'll run a ton of boost but keep the rpms to a minimum. Say 6200-6500 max. I dunno, we'll see what happens.

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Yeah, its logical that the friction of high rpms will stress the rods a lot more on the temperature fact i suppose?, plus i want the engine for drifting so i prolly will go with a Rb20 turbo or a t25 to keep it simple and safe

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t25's your best option IMO, they are so common in the Nissan world. Cheap, and easy to get.


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