wise men help bersh make decision.

[bersh240]

so i have a decsion to make.i can either buy coilovers..or.. go get my car tuned so it runs right.both of which i can get a killer deal on. 975 for fortune auto coils.or. 250 for a rom tune on a dyno with master tuner that just wrote his own tuning software for nissans. but i have to get my new injectors cleaned and flowtested. put fmic on. put n62 maf on.. and buy a new boost controller. since mine was lock tited in place my my wonderful old tuner.. that charged me 500 bucks to instal that boost controller and set it so i hit fuel cut every 5 secs.

but both these deals will go away if not done within a week.coils are gona sell out then price will go up.and the tuner is giving me a super deal cause hes using my car as the first ca18 hes done with his own software and he needs to figure stuff out so itl take longer. so idk how long that will last either.

my car runs right now. just in higher rpms it dies. boost creeps. boost also spikes to uhh... past 20.. and i need coils before any kinda of events because the spring strut combo i have is probably the worst feeling ive ever had. my car seems to sway back and forth and has massive body role and all that good stuff. extremly hard to control.and yet i cant go to events without an engine that runs well.so I dont know what to do...

thoughts?i feel that the true smart people hangout here.. not 240gen..

[numbnuts240]

tune

[scotty-2-forty]

Definitely tune. Much rather have a good running car over looks, and you won't get much performance out of a poorly tuned car anyway.

[r34 gtr]

Tune fo sho. Don't even buy other parts until the car runs right (this excludes parts needed to make car run right).

[Dattebayo]

First off and again, coilovers are for the track only. What strut/spring combo do you use now?

I would say tune first, get a quality boost controller and get some stability under the hood.

[JLAUDIO85]

toooon

[numbnuts240]

First off and again, coilovers are for the track only.

nuh-uh, they're for laying frame, throwing off suspension geometry, tucking tires, and impressing other guys with how stupidly low they can go

[Repo Man]

Tune. Just do it.

[Dattebayo]

nuh-uh, they're for laying frame, throwing off suspension geometry, tucking tires, and impressing other guys with how stupidly low they can go

OH WOW dude I totally see it now.

[bersh240]

i thought coilovers wer for adjustability?... so i can make my car behave how i need it to at the time. like rallyx. need clearance. and softer settings. and i have tokico blues/sportline springs right now. got them 3 months ago. and i think the backs are blown already.so tune i guess it is. im gona call the guy right now.

[Dattebayo]

Hah. I thought Lancaster was legit, I guess it's really not. (Those guys are d!ck anyway)

You want Koni Yellows or one of the high-end KYB versions and a good spring combo. Coilovers are gonna ruin your car for DDing, and will make a bunch of stuff come loose in the interior. Those options would work well for both track and around town.

[bersh240]

haha only a few are d!ck.

and i am getting fortune auto coilovers. with spring rates 7/6and ther dampers are good. ride quality is pretty nice. i rode in an evo with them. the rates wer different but still..i need the adjustabilty. i have free acces to a hunter alignment rack so changing everything and making it right isnt an issue.im a teenager remember? im gona beat it to death doing everything i possibly can. rallyx/drift/autox/driving to dover downs and pretending im the first nissan in nascar...i dont mind my dding being uncomfy. i work 5 mins from my house. and have no social life.

[Dattebayo]

Bad idea, man. Whatever.

7/6 is a weird rate. But it's pretty much a drift setup.

[bersh240]

poo.it thought that was well rounded.custom rates are free...so. what should i get?

[scotty-2-forty]

... they're for laying frame, throwing off suspension geometry, tucking tires, and impressing other guys with how stupidly low they can go

... Coilovers are gonna ruin your car for DDing, and will make a bunch of stuff come loose in the interior. Those options would work well for both track and around town.

Your statements seem to be one sided and opinionated. Nothing wrong with that; but I'd like to add my thoughts and experiences too for the sake of bersh240, and I do apologize for taking it a bit off topic from his original intent.

I've never had a good set of coilovers 'ruin' my car nor anything come loose, especially in the interior because of them. And I've had many with all the street and track vehicles I've had in the past 26 years. There's so many variables in the choices of brand, quality, ride height, spring rates, dampening and rebound adjustments, weight, etc. so as to say they are for track only is simply not true. Street vehicles are generally designed to be built at a minimum cost, and suited for an "average driver". As an enthusiast though, I want immediate response, reduced body roll, increased stability, etc. The fact that I can custom adjust my settings from street to track is a big plus too! Also, most if not every coilover is overall smaller in diameter, so fitting your wide(r) rims and tires works much better than with the larger stock coils and spring seats. And the look that comes with those characteristics also gives a lower, more muscular and more athletic stance. Nothing wrong with that from a hot-rodding/tuner perspective either. You just have to set it up right.

[Dattebayo]

Hey, why not just put really low profile tires on it like you're gonna and see what happens.

[scotty-2-forty]

Hey, why not just put really low profile tires on it like you're gonna and see what happens.

I have no idea if this was for me ... but balance is key. My car feels firm and predictable with my Teins, yet the ride is quite comfortable. Low profile tires only hurt in the pots and on the bumps. I avoid those even in my otherwise stock set-up vehicles. It's all about personal preference, proper setup and quality parts.

[Dattebayo]

Yeah, he;s just talking about coilovers, that's it. No RUCAs, no LCAs, no nothing. Not even a bushing kit.

[bersh240]

ok i dont feel like typing out my entire plans for my car...but i have an energy suspension bushing kit on order..and im getting the supporting suspension multilink too.im not just slapping on some coilovers and calling it a day..and i dont like low profile tires? i have them now because i got 3 sets for free..do you just hate lancaster or smthing? if so im sorry.

well i got my answer. tuning is first.thankyou everybodyy

[frapjap]

Good call on tuning.Without a tune, you might not have a car to drive around much longer