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Anybody know what the color code is for the dash speakers? I can't access the fsm because my adobe is screwed up. I have an audio processor so i'd like to utilize those speakers.


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sweetrm125 wrote:Anybody know what the color code is for the dash speakers? I can't access the fsm because my adobe is screwed up. I have an audio processor so i'd like to utilize those speakers.


from my experience, it appears that the colors are different pre and post BOSE amplifier... do you have the BOSE? If not, the easiest way will be to pull up the speakers... I'll be doing my stereo overhaul this week... when I go in to run my RCA's, I'll do a spot check and I can tell you what the wire colors are pre BOSE amp, then, when I change my speakers, I can tell you what the wire colors are post BOSE amp!

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I was very suprised to find out that the dash speakers still work even though i pulled the factory radio out and put my aftermarket one in. Are the dash speakers spliced into the front speakers? I have the non bose system. I figured the dash speaker would have their own wires like the front and rear speakers. Theyve got to be connected...only thing that would explain my stereo getting a signal. I guess a follow up question would be do i need to turn the gain up on my amp to supply more power? I have Infiniti kappa perfects in the front, kappa in the rear both sets powered by an alpine pdx 4.100 and 2 jl 12w6v2 subs powered by an alpine pdx 1.1000. I have an alpine iva d310 in dash and a alpine pxa-h701 sound processor.

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sweetrm125 wrote:I was very suprised to find out that the dash speakers still work even though i pulled the factory radio out and put my aftermarket one in. Are the dash speakers spliced into the front speakers? I have the non bose system. I figured the dash speaker would have their own wires like the front and rear speakers. Theyve got to be connected...only thing that would explain my stereo getting a signal. I guess a follow up question would be do i need to turn the gain up on my amp to supply more power? I have Infiniti kappa perfects in the front, kappa in the rear both sets powered by an alpine pdx 4.100 and 2 jl 12w6v2 subs powered by an alpine pdx 1.1000. I have an alpine iva d310 in dash and a alpine pxa-h701 sound processor.
the dash speakers are connected via the speaker wires from the 6.5" speakers in the door... that's usually how its done... especially if you don't have the BOSE system (in the BOSE system, there's seperate wires leaving the amp going to the dash speakers)

Regarding power, I don't know how powerful your amp is... what's the power RMS at 2 ohms, 4 ohms? Are you running kappa 6 x 9's? 2 ohms or 4 ohms? In any case, it sounds like your system should be just fine, you'll just have to fine tune it!

I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that Alpine deck has 5 volt preouts (most Alpine decks do) in which case that makes a HUGE difference in terms of power going to, and thus, coming from your amplifier!

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rjdmmfl1 wrote:
I haven't checked, but I'm pretty sure that Alpine deck has 5 volt preouts (most Alpine decks do) in which case that makes a HUGE difference in terms of power going to, and thus, coming from your amplifier!
Power output is still going to be the same, the difference that it makes is that there is more power so that the audio signal would be louder than any noise that you might pick up along the way.

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the converted wrote:
Power output is still going to be the same, the difference that it makes is that there is more power so that the audio signal would be louder than any noise that you might pick up along the way.
you're right, I worded it incorrectly, the point I was trying to get across to him was that decks with 5 volt preouts sound better and are louder (everything else considered) than those with 2 volt preouts!

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Where do the dash speakers meet up with the front because if possible i'd like to amp the dash speakers seperately so that I can utilize the "center" channel on my multi processor because as it stands the audio is not decoding corectly. I should be able to bridge the 2 speakers right? I'm not sure if i can do that i'd like to send the center channel data to both dash speakers but technically there should only be one speaker to have 5.1. Anyone have any insight on that?

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sweetrm125 wrote:Where do the dash speakers meet up with the front because if possible i'd like to amp the dash speakers seperately so that I can utilize the "center" channel on my multi processor because as it stands the audio is not decoding corectly. I should be able to bridge the 2 speakers right? I'm not sure if i can do that i'd like to send the center channel data to both dash speakers but technically there should only be one speaker to have 5.1. Anyone have any insight on that?
True 5.1 is Front L & R, Rear L& R, Center and sub.

If you have the Bose, the front tweeters and door speakers do not meet up

If you don't have the Bose, the dash 3.5 and door 6.5 meet up at the junction of the door and footwell area it will all be wrapped in black tape with other wire though ( I believe, check the FSM by going to the page, and right clicking the AV file, then hit "save target as", and it'll download the FSM instead of trying to open it through the internet!)

What you are proposing is a bad idea. center channel output is not designed to be spread out over the front two channels... if you have a true 5.1 decoder, the end result will be sloppy! This is especially true since your door speakers are 6.5 mid bass speakers, and your dash speakers are tweeters... the center channel sound is not full range, and will only be bits and pieces of musical information... so essentially, since you dontt have full range speakers in the doors, your system may sound like crap...

If you are intent ton doing this, I would replace your door speakers with a component setup.. that way you will have your highs with the tweeters and your midbass from the 6.5's, and you can spread your center channel over the two dash speakers.

WHen you do listen to movies in 5.1 surround sound, the voices will come through the center channel, with sound effects and background noise coming through the other speakers! Hope this helps and good luck!

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i already have component speakers. I have the infinity kappa perfects. So if i run my speaker wire from the footwell area back to the amp and bridge it then i can get the center channel to spread out the information correctly?

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i don't think i understand what you're trying to do... again, you have a component system in the front. the 6.5" on the infinity kappa perfects are not full range speakers, they are mid bass speakers. THe information that would be sent to a full range is separated with components, so the highs, and voice info goes to the tweeters, and only mid bass goes to the 6.5"..

If you do what you are proposiing, you will be losing a TON of information that should be going to the tweeters in the front. If you send the center channel information to the front two 3.5"s, then wheere is the front right and front left information gonna go? Again, the higher frequencies will not go to your 6.5" midbass speakers, so you will be effectively losing information.

WHat you should do is get a seperate center channel speaker, and have it flush mounted in the center of your dash, and do the setup the way a 5.1 is supposed to be done... what you are proposing is wrong!!!
sweetrm125 wrote:i already have component speakers. I have the infinity kappa perfects. So if i run my speaker wire from the footwell area back to the amp and bridge it then i can get the center channel to spread out the information correctly?


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