Wireing for S14 into S13 PLEASE!!!

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92vert240
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All i can find is s13 sr into s13 chasis. I am about to sell this thing as is wireing need be done if i cant figure it out. I hate wireing more than anything. Everything is different. Even the harness from the battery to alt. and starter with the wire off the transmission is completely different. Is there somewhere i can send this crap and have it all done plug and play nice and clean? Or anyone have a step by step on how to do it. I know its been done, so its not impossible. Othewise, first 6 grand takes it. 74k orig miles. garaged since 91.


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zerothread/323022

Found this but the lower harness still doesn't make any sence to me. There are more plugs on the s14 harness and others on the s13 KA harness that arn't on the s14 harness. wtf? I got a clip so i have everything from both.

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Go to the top of the page and buy one of the videos man it will make it all come together once you watch it ..

P.S the alternator just needs a bigger ring termanal for the post , the starter you need to change the plug or try rto make the ka stater work (heard it would )

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I dont see one for a s14 SR into an s13 chasis specifically.

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the lower harness is almost the same. You may have one or two less plugs but as long as everything on the transmission, the alternator, the starter, oil pressure sensor etc are plugged in then you should be okay. Make sure you search because there are plenty of s14 sr into s13 guys that have already done this thread.

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There's a freaking link in the FAQ on wiring S14 motors into S13 chassis.

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Hijacker wrote:There's a freaking link in the FAQ on wiring S14 motors into S13 chassis.
Went to FAQ and it was all "how to post pictures" , "how do i post a threa" kind of stuff. Where are you talking about? Can you post a link please.

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Ok i found that its impossible to use the lower harness on the SR motor so im using the one from the KA.

I have everything sorted out except for a few things. On the KA harness at the alternater there is an extra plug with a rubber boot around it consisting of a single wire yellow with a white stripe and silver dashes. The SR has nothing in its place.

On the starter for the sr there is a single wire yellow with a green stripe connection whereas the KA has two wires and a different plug consisting of two yellow wires, one with a gren stripe and one with a red stripe both having a silver dash.

Can i buy a starter for a KA and solve my problems? If so, what about the single plug by the alternator with the rubber boot?

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The video i watched you use the ka lower harness but the starter plug is different (which if you can find a part number just change ). And the alternator has a bigger post that a ring has to go on and it should work .... Ive heard you can use the ka starter but the brackets have to be changed ,play with if you have the motor out ... the video i have does s-13 ,s-14, s-15 into an s-13 chassis..

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Hey gooberhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/306956

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duffman1278 wrote:Hey gooberhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/306956


I got that thread already. What i dont understand is the lower harness. He says, "change the s13 transmission plugs with the s14". Ok so i matched up the collors on the plugs for the two harnesses. I had green and green with a stripe on one, black and green on another, and the one remaining plug is yellow and black on the KA and red red on the s14. Whats that about? I know im going to get this thing together, hit the high speed limiter in reverse an drive forwards with my reverse lights on while the idle doesnt drop cuz somethings wrong with the power steering plug that no one has mentioned yet. I believe you have to extend that to the other side?

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More problems at the starter.

It does not just "plug in" like he says. On the KA I have the main power wire about a 10-12 gauge black with yellow stripe with a connecter on the end, and another connection with two wires.

On the SR harness i have the main power wire, black with a white stripe with a slightly different connector, and a connection with 1 wire. Here are some pics to let you know what im talking about.

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First one is the SR harness at the starter. The second one is the KA harness at the starter




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Read this...

it has everything in it you need to know and it is on the link that has been posted twice.

zerothread/323022

"The lower engine harness for the KA will plug right into the S14 SR motor, all you need to do is drill to enlarge the hole on the KA Alternator power wire ring terminal to fit the size of the stud on the S14 SR Alt. The S14 SR transmission plug ends will need to changed over to the S13 plug ends or vice versa, I decided to just change the plug ends on the transmission sensors so that I could reuse the lower harness on my S13 KA transmission later. Some people say you can simply take the sensors from the S13 transmission and use them on the S14 transmission... I have not verified this but it does appear that they can swapped. The Speed Sensor from the S13 transmission must be used since the S14 will not read the right speed."

so you are using the KA so anything that needs to be changed needs to come from the SR harness and go to the KA harness to match the SR motor

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92vert240 wrote:

I know im going to get this thing together, hit the high speed limiter in reverse an drive forwards with my reverse lights on while the idle doesnt drop


if you do, get a video. lol, j/k. but no, for real. get a video and act all surprised as hell.

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OchnofConcrete wrote:


if you do, get a video. lol, j/k. but no, for real. get a video and act all surprised as hell.
I thought someone on here would know so i dont have to buy a freggin video. This is rediculis. I know the POS video isnt going to tell me sh it either. Like that link was posted above says the connections are interchangable. Someone please explain to me how you hange a connection of a single wire onto a two wire plug? Small block would have been an easier swap.

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it sounds like you have never done wiring before. Look in the FSM and find out which one of those wires gives you the signal you need. You are making it much harder than it is. you have a single wire that gives signal (we will call it A) then you have a dual setup and it give signal a and signal B. You need to keep signal A and not use signal B. also after everything gets installed you can always go back and trouble shoot. Which is why I said before, YOU MAY NOT USE EVERYTHING ON THE HARNESS. if you still have problems find a local guy to look over your work, but it really isn't that hard. Just get everything you need plugged in and if you need to make changes or adjustments you will be able to do so rather easily


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nzmoman wrote:it sounds like you have never done wiring before. Look in the FSM and find out which one of those wires gives you the signal you need. You are making it much harder than it is. you have a single wire that gives signal (we will call it A) then you have a dual setup and it give signal a and signal B. You need to keep signal A and not use signal B. also after everything gets installed you can always go back and trouble shoot. Which is why I said before, YOU MAY NOT USE EVERYTHING ON THE HARNESS. if you still have problems find a local guy to look over your work, but it really isn't that hard. Just get everything you need plugged in and if you need to make changes or adjustments you will be able to do so rather easily
I have done wiring but i absolutely hate it more than anything!!!! I built a 9 sec/ 10 secnod proven GN from the ground up so i must not be completely retarded.

I just dont want to hook up power and see smoke. Im pretty good at being a s h it magnet and am trying to avoid that. Oh well i guess i'll go start hookin stuff up.


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