WINDOW PROBLEM STILL!!! took it to 2 shops

[mrgrape]

Okay i have a 97 240sx and window problems.my passenger window works perfectly fine. When i click on the switch for drivers side it makes a ween ween noise but doesnt move.When I was getting my car painted, the owner told me after the job was done that he looked into it for free and it was either the regulator or switch but probably regulator but NOT the motor.

Knowing that I got a used regulator off the same model car and went to a mobile window repair guy and when he took it off he said it was the motor and that my regulator was totally fine.

Now im stumbled. 2 shops saying contradictory things and Ive already spent like $100 trying to figure out the real problem.

I am considering tomorrow to take it to a shop and PAY AGAIN for just DIAGNOSE and then REPAIR and prob PART which is going to cost me a lot of money.

The motor makes a noise for sure..its not dead as it respons to when i click on switch, but the window just doesnt go up or down =[

Help please

[sileghtychad]

Okay i have a 97 240sx and window problems.my passenger window works perfectly fine. When i click on the switch for drivers side it makes a ween ween noise but doesnt move.When I was getting my car painted, the owner told me after the job was done that he looked into it for free and it was either the regulator or switch but probably regulator but NOT the motor.

Knowing that I got a used regulator off the same model car and went to a mobile window repair guy and when he took it off he said it was the motor and that my regulator was totally fine.

Now im stumbled. 2 shops saying contradictory things and Ive already spent like $100 trying to figure out the real problem.

I am considering tomorrow to take it to a shop and PAY AGAIN for just DIAGNOSE and then REPAIR and prob PART which is going to cost me a lot of money.

The motor makes a noise for sure..its not dead as it respons to when i click on switch, but the window just doesnt go up or down =[

Help please

im not familiar with 97's but it sounds like it might be the window track, that is if 97's work on a track

[mrgrape]

its the same like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMQ8CYwmIqoit goes down half a**, and doesnt go up at all but makes that ween ween noise.

[sileghtychad]

its the same like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMQ8CYwmIqoit goes down half a**, and doesnt go up at all but makes that ween ween noise.

check and see if this might help!http://www.s-chassis.com/forum...46462

[J14cm7]

Hey i had a window motor go out on mine. Dont take it to a shop and dont fix anything unless you KNOW what the problem is. Take the door panel off your self it takes five min and diagnose the problem. Its not your switch cause something is responding. After you take your door panel off disconect your window motor wire (on mine it was blue and green i think) and hook it up to a hot and a ground off your battery if the window works fine then its your regulator. If it goes up and down but stops then its your track. if it doesnt work at all its your motor. You will be able to fix it either way.

[sileghtychad]

Hey i had a window motor go out on mine. Dont take it to a shop and dont fix anything unless you KNOW what the problem is. Take the door panel off your self it takes five min and diagnose the problem. Its not your switch cause something is responding. After you take your door panel off disconect your window motor wire (on mine it was blue and green i think) and hook it up to a hot and a ground off your battery if the window works fine then its your regulator. If it goes up and down but stops then its your track. if it doesnt work at all its your motor. You will be able to fix it either way.

Yeah, it really sounds like its you track

[mrgrape]

Hey i had a window motor go out on mine. Dont take it to a shop and dont fix anything unless you KNOW what the problem is. Take the door panel off your self it takes five min and diagnose the problem. Its not your switch cause something is responding. After you take your door panel off disconect your window motor wire (on mine it was blue and green i think) and hook it up to a hot and a ground off your battery if the window works fine then its your regulator. If it goes up and down but stops then its your track. if it doesnt work at all its your motor. You will be able to fix it either way.

how do i hook it up to a hot and a ground off my battery???how do i fix a window track...

i wish i can just take it to a shop.....

[sileghtychad]

how do i hook it up to a hot and a ground off my battery???how do i fix a window track...

i wish i can just take it to a shop.....[/QUOTE]

The track is easily replaced. Any Nissan dealer can do it but if you can do it yourself just go to a junkyard. All you need is your ratchet, phillips srewdriver and a few sockets 10mm to 13mm and you should be ok.It's really not a hard job at alll on these. GM products are a PITA and you have to drill out the rivets and replace etc. These are a breeze on a 240 so if your able try it yourself and save the cash !!

[J14cm7]

how do i hook it up to a hot and a ground off my battery???how do i fix a window track...

i wish i can just take it to a shop.....

If you are really not car savvy then take it to the dealer cause it takes patients and a few different attempts to get everything back in perfect working order. I doubt your track bent. I know it didnt rust. I really dont know what could have gone wrong with your track unless it just jumped the track. Anyway the shop is gonna charge you an arm and a leg. If you do it yourself just be aware that your 240 not only does the window go up and down but when it comes up it also comes in towards the car so it can tuck up under the door frame. this takes alot of adjustment and trial and error to get right. Its def doable if you have the patients though.

[mrgrape]

okay i took it to a japanese auto shop with good reviewsand they tested the motor by hooking it up to a battery like u said.The motor worked fine as well as regulator.They said it was the SWITCH.GOD DAMN, the last 2 shops are incompetent fools.when they got a quote from their parts guy for a switch it was $300!!!!so now im looking for a 96+ window switch and hopefully that will fix it.

[vancouverbc]

that switch is easy to test. try openng up switch and cleaning contacts etc. the amp is also inside the switch.

zerothread/256110

[J14cm7]

How the hell is it the switch? Doesnt seem to make any sense. You saw the window go up and down when they tested the motor? Well then i guess it is the switch. Do what the previous poster said and if it is still f'ed up then check ebay every now and then and you should find one for less than that.

[sx moneypit]

I thought i had switch problem with my car ,but it ended up being the power window amp.The amp is bolted to the door (a small rectangular box) it is not in the switch itself.The amp is much cheaper than the switch.

[vancouverbc]

I thought i had switch problem with my car ,but it ended up being the power window amp.The amp is bolted to the door (a small rectangular box) it is not in the switch itself.The amp is much cheaper than the switch.

the amp is in switch for 96-98

[sx moneypit]

I wasn't doubting you , i was just going by what my parts man told me.

[vancouverbc]

yeah, i would not count on it being the switch. Could be the ground.

[J14cm7]

look at the FSM (factory service manual). Its free online and on this site if you just search. it has a troubleshooting section for this exact problem and you should be able to figure this out using that. The reason i doubt its the switch is because you are getting some type of response when you switch the window. but if it went up and down freely when you applied direct power to it then i dont know what to tell you. if it was the amp it wouldnt work at all.

[vancouverbc]

yeah, it is a really simple wiring diagram, unlike the other years

[mrgrape]

when i took it to the guy that said it was the motor, he said it was the ground in the motor??

anyways im taking it to the japanese shop...and if they f*** up they better refund me.,

[obg3506]

look at the FSM (factory service manual). Its free online and on this site if you just search. it has a troubleshooting section for this exact problem and you should be able to figure this out using that. The reason i doubt its the switch is because you are getting some type of response when you switch the window. but if it went up and down freely when you applied direct power to it then i dont know what to tell you. if it was the amp it wouldnt work at all.

Dude, where is the FSM for the 95 and up 240 located for free!!! Ive searched to no avail!!

[vancouverbc]

Dude, where is the FSM for the 95 and up 240 located for free!!! Ive searched to no avail!!

see my signature. difference between the years, though.

[mrgrape]

wow so today i took it to that japanese shop where they tested motor, looked at regulator and told me it was the switch....where i got a used switch working condition.They now tell me it is the motor in that the motor i have is really weak.....Im like great...so far ive spent 20 getting it diagnosed, 20 for used regulator, 20 for diagnose again, 50 for switch=110 and thats without labor of reinstalling motor.....of course i b****ed at the shop because i payed 20 for their diagnose and 50 for switch so at least i didnt pay for the work this time.......But now i have to get a motor and i want to make sure THIS IS THE FINAL PROBLEM...anyone care to chime in>?

[mrgrape]

the regulator should be fine as told by shops because the teeth are all good.Right now the window wont go up or down anymore with the old and new switch...even though passenger is still working fine.it still makes a ween ween noise.............their ddiagnose is that the motor is really weak...and i need a new stronger one......

[vancouverbc]

used motor for sale. might be a tad expensive.

zerothread?id=473166

[obg3506]

see my signature. difference between the years, though.

VanBC, you are the man! Thx!

[J14cm7]

Dude, where is the FSM for the 95 and up 240 located for free!!! Ive searched to no avail!!

Literally type S14 FSM into the search engine and it will come up with a list of every 240 fsm there is.

These shops are insane. They are making you spend a bunch of money you dont need to spend. When you pay 100 dollars for a new motor its gonna be your amp is bad. Diagnose the problem and then spend the money. Hook the motor up to your battery directly and see what the window does. If it goes up and down fine then thats not the problem. We knew it wasnt the switch cause you were getting signal. Its gotta be the track or some VERY unusual wiring issue. Either way you can diagnose this using the FSM or wasting time and alot of money on these shops.

I dont usually do this but in my personnal opinion your window jumped the track and is f'ed up. In my experience motors either work or they dont.

[mrgrape]

Literally type S14 FSM into the search engine and it will come up with a list of every 240 fsm there is.

These shops are insane. They are making you spend a bunch of money you dont need to spend. When you pay 100 dollars for a new motor its gonna be your amp is bad. Diagnose the problem and then spend the money. Hook the motor up to your battery directly and see what the window does. If it goes up and down fine then thats not the problem. We knew it wasnt the switch cause you were getting signal. Its gotta be the track or some VERY unusual wiring issue. Either way you can diagnose this using the FSM or wasting time and alot of money on these shops.

I dont usually do this but in my personnal opinion your window jumped the track and is f'ed up. In my experience motors either work or they dont.

When i took it to the japanese auto, they did that hooking up motor to battery, and the motor went up and down over the regulator(we already had regulator taken off, and window all the way down when we did this)By looking at the diagnose chart, i followed it and it said if drivers side doesnt go up or down it is the power main switch..the japanese auto i took it today said the motor did not have enough power to go up......but it didnt even have enough to go down.

One guy i asked on a forum seperate from here said:worn motor is a possibility but I think that friction in the molding/gasket is more probable

So right now I am not trusting anymore shops...and going with either what u said=track or molding/gasket?

ahh stupid shops.

[J14cm7]

Ok so just tell me have you SEEN the window go up and down when they hooked it up to direct power?

[mrgrape]

Ok so just tell me have you SEEN the window go up and down when they hooked it up to direct power?

no to that precise question.When we tested the motor to the battery...the motor was off the car as well as regulator....the motor and the assembly went up and down on the regulator assembly.

[J14cm7]

Then stop taking it places. Its your track plain and simple. Why didnt he just leave it in the car and test it then? oh well thats beside the point. If you buy a new motor thats a waste of money.