Win $1million, stay on welfare

[Heavy]

http://www.latimes.com/news/nation/nati ... 3323.story

die please, kthnx

[themadscientist]

I do the right thing because I am stupid. She is smarter than me. If I knew where the POS scumbag switch was in my brain I would flip it to complete scum. There is no logical reason to be honorable anymore. Bad behavior is ignored, nay, encouraged in our country and those like myself unable to adopt this mutation will be farmed for our productivity until the death of our neanderthal-like unadaptable genus.

MadShrugs.

[nissangirl74]

You beat me too this. The 'powers-that-be' need to hire roughly one million of the unemployed who are looking for a job to monitor those who are happy to stay firmly attached to the public tit. You'd help lower unemployment numbers, stimulate the economy, and get rid of (some) of the leeches of the system. I hope this broad has to pay back the amount of stamps she has received since she won. I also hope she is permanently banned from all entitlement programs.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Omg yes I saw this last night. Honestly my parents and I were speechless at the time.

This is a complete fail in the system. Someone please inform me how a trailer trash slut can buy lotto tickets all the while being on welfare in the first place?? Then it gets better not only is she getting food stamps and buying lotto tickets, she won the lotto and is still getting food stamps!!!

I am simply outraged I can't even post the long reply that I wanted to because it pisses me off when I think about it.

The system is so screwed up.

/endrant

[Bubba1]

While what the woman did seems wrong and unethical, she was breaking no laws. Technically she was and still is unemployed and according to the current program rules, she's eligible. Should she have stopped the stamps? Absolutely, but she was not required. Some of you want to burn her at the stake, but she's not the real villain here. Geez, Newt Gingrich has done far worse unethical stuff, lied about it, yet people are willing to nominate him for president. WTF! The real villain here is the badly worded rules governing food stamp eligibility which created the loophole and the poor way that the Food Stamp administration in Michigan monitors eligibility.

Sounds like that local Congressman is focused on closing the loophole, so hopefully those in charge the food stamp program will soon get with the program and manage it correctly.

[AppleBonker]

Actually, she's been cut off now.

And the important bit:

Under DHS policy, a recipient of food assistance benefits must notify the state within 10 days of any asset or income change. DHS relies on clients being forthcoming about their actual financial status. If they are not, and continue to accept benefits, they may face criminal investigation and be required to pay back those benefits. Michigan DHS does not currently have the ability to verify a person’s lottery winnings in determining benefit eligibility, but bills pending in the state legislature would require the Michigan Lottery to notify DHS of lottery winners. We fully support this proposed change. Our Office of Inspector General will continue to vigorously pursue any and all abuse and fraud in the welfare system.

So, actually she was breaking the rules (according to the people who should know the rules best).

[300ZXttZMAN]

While what the woman did seems wrong and unethical, she was breaking no laws.

Its extremely unethical she shouldn't be buying lotto tickets if she is getting food stamps in the first place.

[Bubba1]

While what the woman did seems wrong and unethical, she was breaking no laws.

Its extremely unethical she shouldn't be buying lotto tickets if she is getting food stamps in the first place.

I agree, very unethical. but if there's nothing in the rules to prohibit it, how do you stop her?

[Bubba1]

Actually, she's been cut off now.

And the important bit:

Under DHS policy, a recipient of food assistance benefits must notify the state within 10 days of any asset or income change. DHS relies on clients being forthcoming about their actual financial status. If they are not, and continue to accept benefits, they may face criminal investigation and be required to pay back those benefits. Michigan DHS does not currently have the ability to verify a person’s lottery winnings in determining benefit eligibility, but bills pending in the state legislature would require the Michigan Lottery to notify DHS of lottery winners. We fully support this proposed change. Our Office of Inspector General will continue to vigorously pursue any and all abuse and fraud in the welfare system.

So, actually she was breaking the rules (according to the people who should know the rules best).

Well, that's a good start. If she won the lottery last fall, she'll probably have to reimburse maybe $1,200? Perhaps they should add a fine to their upcoming language change to make it sting a little more if you break the rules like that??

[300ZXttZMAN]

I agree, very unethical. but if there's nothing in the rules to prohibit it, how do you stop her?

Well thats the thing you can't stop her.. I guess its just one of those things that the person doing the act should feel guilty about.


The bottom line is she is obviously an able bodied person so if I ever saw her in person you know what I would say??
Get off your a** and get a job!

Here is my take:

If you have all 4 limbs, a head on your shoulders, and your not 6 feet under ground then you should be working. (PERIOD)

Lets say your and able bodied person but can't work for some other inconvience like your a single mother or you have to take care of a family member ect... Well thats completely understandable but you better present yourself to the best of your ability there is no reason for someone to look.


Now lets say Bob had a job where he was making $25 an hour then the company that Bob was working for laid him off and now he is unemployed. He has job offers but they will only pay him $20 an hour and Bob doesn't like that. So he decides that he is going to sit at home and let something sprout out his a** while he watches TV for a couple days and live off of his savings while he searches for another job. Days are now turning to weeks and Bobs savings is getting low so he applies for wellfare.... IMHO Bob needs to get off his a** and take that $20/hour then turn the other cheek and move the hell forward with his life....

[themadscientist]

I want to hold her down and test makeup in her eyes. Release the rabbits!

[AppleBonker]

The bottom line is she is obviously an able bodied person so if I ever saw her in person you know what I would say??
Get off your a** and get a job!

Here is my take:

If you have all 4 limbs, a head on your shoulders, and your not 6 feet under ground then you should be working. (PERIOD)

Convenient argument, albeit unrealistic. In case you haven't noticed, unemployment is at a pretty high level. I know plenty of people actively searching for a job an unable to land one. Just telling them "get a job" doesn't solve anything or help them out in the slightest. While there may be some people on unemployment who are content to mooch off the system, I can assure you there are many that don't fall into that group. This skank is one of those leeches, but be careful when you paint everyone on unemployment into the same category as her...

[300ZXttZMAN]

Your right, sorry I should have worded it differently..

Obviously I have noticed unemployment is at a high level. The thing is if you can't find a job thats one thing if you can't find a job that you want and you decide to just live off the government thats completely different. At the end of the day it is NOT everyone elses job to support the people who are just plain lazy.

A job is different than a career. There are people with prestigious degrees and can't land a career.

Times are tuff I am not new to this my dad and I are self employed and in 30 years there has not been a year like this past one... In 2011 we donated about 25% compared to what we donated in ~2002. We slave over our business we truely work hard for everything we have and the government. No were not afraid to get dirty, were not afraid to work late, we aren't afraid of cuts and bruises and we are not to proud to sweep the floor and clean the bathroom. There have been several instances where it was only my dad and I who came to work all our other guys just didn't show up. So what does that mean? Well me and dad do what we have to do to be successful and we do a damn good job at it IMHO and I am proud. Oh also all this FICA and other federal mandates and taxes doesn't help small businesses..

Lately some people have been coming in our store and saying this:

I'll have the money on the first of the month can you hold the part until then?

Another famous one is (basically the same):

I'll get my check on the first of the month.

Sometimes this is for parts that really aren't NEEDED like fenders ect. So what does that tell you? Well:

• 1. It makes you wonder what other things people on welfare are buying that aren't NEEDS.
  2. They are cheating the system clear as day.
  3. They have money to buy things that aren't truely needed then do they have another means of obtaining income that may not be legal?? Drug sales?
  4. That they only think about their self because deep down inside they know they are cheating the system just straight robbing the hard earned money from the tax payers.

I end up figuring out that they do collect welfare. Sometimes they just come flat out and say it and I have no clue why.


So yea thats the end of my rant I am sorry it just feels good to get it out there because I know there has got to be some business owners that can relate to what I have to say...

As for how do we fix the issue with this "welfare fraud" I have no clue I am not a politician.

[kouki munster]

Look on the bright side, in 2 years(max) she will blow through the $500k(probably under $400K by now) and have to sell most everything she got with the money because she won't be able to afford the property taxes on the house with no job. I also hope that she is denied further assistance, seeing as how she blatantly abused the system.

[float_6969]

Does the idea that she was on welfare and was buying lottery tickets not bother the crap out of you all by itself?

[Jesda]

Someone should call her and try that DEA scam from the other thread.

[kouki munster]

Does the idea that she was on welfare and was buying lottery tickets not bother the crap out of you all by itself?

It does bother me, but seeing as how the overwhelming vast majority of people that I see around where I live buying lottery tickets are the stereotypical welfare dependents I am some what numb to it. What really bothers me is seeing people use their food stamps card to get cash out of a atm, and then using said cash to buy beer and cigarettes.(You just got to love Georgia)

[float_6969]

I used to work at a walgreens/welfare bank and at the first of the month we'd be flooded with people that would come in and buy a candy bar and then get $200 back in cash. Ghey.

[Heavy]

well guess we know what she spent the money on.... http://gawker.com/5947817/infamous-paup ... spected-od

[themadscientist]

I hope it was slow and painful.

[Bmore-coupe]

This infuriates me to no end. I am currently in the middle of a legal battle with the state and unemployment office that has been going on for almost 3 years. Short version of the story: I worked for a large company for about 7 years and was let go. Before that, there were no lapses in my job history from the time that I was 14 to the time that I was 28. Given that I was making a good chunk of change at the time, I was granted assistance while looking for a new job. I searched for 6 months (very hard, I might add) filing applications everyday yielding no results in my field. I finally accepted a job waiting tables making a fraction of my previous salary (which is where I still currently work)

So now, I am 31 years old, waiting tables to pay my bills (barely) and I have had a total time of unemployment of 6 months in almost 17 years. Now, I have been in court for appeal after appeal on both sides because the unemployment office claims that I was mistakenly granted that money for those 6 months, and now they want me to pay it all back (including interest) totaling just under $12,000. Where the hell am I supposed to get 12k in a lump sum, and why do I need to pay interest and pay back almost $3000 more than I was originally given for a "mistake" that THEY made?

The "system" amazes me sometimes. I have worked hard my entire life and now have to fight the state for using financial assistance for what is supposed to be used for. And it wouldn't upset me so much if I didn't see people like this abuse the system everyday with no consequence.

/end rant

[themadscientist]

I have said it for a while now. It's stupid to be an honorable person these days. You just get f***. Unfortunately, I don't know where the douche bag switch is in my brain to turn it on. I'm still a chump doing the right thing and being justly punished for it.

[Jesda]

I agree, very unethical. but if there's nothing in the rules to prohibit it, how do you stop her?

I would yell a lot.

[WDRacing]

I agree, very unethical. but if there's nothing in the rules to prohibit it, how do you stop her?

I would yell a lot.

This country could use some good ole vigilante justice.

[300ZXttZMAN]

This infuriates me to no end. I am currently in the middle of a legal battle with the state and unemployment office that has been going on for almost 3 years. Short version of the story: I worked for a large company for about 7 years and was let go. Before that, there were no lapses in my job history from the time that I was 14 to the time that I was 28. Given that I was making a good chunk of change at the time, I was granted assistance while looking for a new job. I searched for 6 months (very hard, I might add) filing applications everyday yielding no results in my field. I finally accepted a job waiting tables making a fraction of my previous salary (which is where I still currently work)

So now, I am 31 years old, waiting tables to pay my bills (barely) and I have had a total time of unemployment of 6 months in almost 17 years. Now, I have been in court for appeal after appeal on both sides because the unemployment office claims that I was mistakenly granted that money for those 6 months, and now they want me to pay it all back (including interest) totaling just under $12,000. Where the hell am I supposed to get 12k in a lump sum, and why do I need to pay interest and pay back almost $3000 more than I was originally given for a "mistake" that THEY made?

The "system" amazes me sometimes. I have worked hard my entire life and now have to fight the state for using financial assistance for what is supposed to be used for. And it wouldn't upset me so much if I didn't see people like this abuse the system everyday with no consequence.

/end rant

See this is why the system is so f*** up. You clearly deserve governement assistance that dumb b**** that was buying lotto tickets does not... I'm so freaking pissed that they are wanting you to pay them back... Would about all the other f*** idiots???????? Why don't they have to pay them back????????

[300ZXttZMAN]

I hope it was slow and painful.

[Bmore-coupe]

I have said it for a while now. It's stupid to be an honorable person these days. You just get f***ed. Unfortunately, I don't know where the douche bag switch is in my brain to turn it on. I'm still a chump doing the right thing and being justly punished for it.

I am slowly coming to this realization as well....