Will this rim and tire fit a 93 240 fastback?

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Hey guys, my friend is wondering if this rim will fit his s13. He has a 1993 240sx fastback. He is looking at Volk gramelite 57s 17 By 8.5 in the rear with a positive 20 offset for the rear. What is the biggest tire he could fit in the back. He is hoping to get a 275 back there. Please let me know. Thanks, Chris


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that will fit fine in the rear, it may bulge out of the side, but it'll fit. and 275 wont fit on that wheel..why would you need a 275 anywaY? wider does not mean more grip. a 245-40-17 should be plenty wide.-chet

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Not giving away to many details of his car, but it should put down close to if not more then 500hp. He doesn't really post on the bored, and we have been told by a couple tire shops that a 275 will fit on a 8.5 inch rim. z28's can get a 275 on a 8.5 inch rim, i think. His car prolly wont be running for a while, and considering it will take 3 monthes for his rims to get here from japan, were just trying to figure out the biggest tire he can get back thereThanks, Chris

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You're missing the point about tire fitment onto the wheel. A tire with a wide width and a taller sidewall, the type you'd find on a Z28, will mount onto the wheel, because the taller, slightly more flexible sidewall will allow for(you guessed it) flex and will squeeze onto the wheel.

The shorter sidewall of this 275 that would be required for reasonable effective axle ratio for the 240 would have a VERY short sidewall and be VERY stiff and would not, in all likelyhood, be an ideal fit on the wheel.

There's more to it than just plugging in a number of what fit on a different car's wheel. Totally different applications, with totally different tire aspect ratios.(tread width/sidewall height)

A sticky, expensive R compound tire would transform the handling dynamics of the car, but just slapping on the biggest dumbest meats you can find doesn't offer a great deal of improvement. You'll see what I mean, or maybe not.

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275s would be overkill. Get a good sticky tire in a 245/40-17 andyou will be good to go.

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i understand what you guys are saying. i had 225 azenas on my car. they were pretty sticky and hooked nicely. he is sure that he will need more then a 245 though. i will tell him what you guys said. thanks, chris

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bp2ooo wrote:i understand what you guys are saying. i had 225 azenas on my car. they were pretty sticky and hooked nicely. he is sure that he will need more then a 245 though. i will tell him what you guys said. thanks, chris


You just completely missed EVERYTHING Smith just said. Geeze....

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Get a 225 or 235 at most. Compound Matters. Bigger tires are more expensive and therefore you have to use a cheaper tire.

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Cost shouldn't be an issue at this point.

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SmithSR wrote:Cost shouldn't be an issue at this point.
absolutely true if hes talking about a built engine!

check the other thred about wide tires man, I get very much into how it affects a vehicle. Design and compound are more important that width man...

-chet

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JeromeS13 wrote:You just completely missed EVERYTHING Smith just said. Geeze....
Actually i missed nothing he said. And this is a built motor. Our friend has nitto 555r's on his s13 and is putting 280 hp to the ground and he spins them alot going into second, and a little into 3rd. This car will be putting down close to 500 hp, if not a little over, and i just dont really think a 225 can handle it. I think he might be leaning toward a 555r 245 or so. Thank you you guys that hand valuable input.

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bp2ooo wrote:Actually i missed nothing he said. And this is a built motor. Our friend has nitto 555r's on his s13 and is putting 280 hp to the ground and he spins them alot going into second, and a little into 3rd. This car will be putting down close to 500 hp, if not a little over, and i just dont really think a 225 can handle it. I think he might be leaning toward a 555r 245 or so. Thank you you guys that hand valuable input.


Ok. So tell him to invest in some real tires (Yokohama A032R, since he's loaded) and a good LSD.

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yteah, no offense but the nt555R isnt really that great of a tire, if he wants a sticky street tire, use a s-03 or a032R, AVS sports, etc...

those would do nicely, and are plenty sticky enough(if its sticky enough for a 500hp ferrari, its sticky enough for a 240)-chet

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bp2ooo wrote:Hey guys, my friend is wondering if this rim will fit his s13. He has a 1993 240sx fastback. He is looking at Volk gramelite 57s 17 By 8.5 in the rear with a positive 20 offset for the rear. What is the biggest tire he could fit in the back. He is hoping to get a 275 back there. Please let me know. Thanks, Chris


You guys are missing the whole point here. RE-READ the question. Nobody asked an opinion on tires. He knows what he wants. Plain and simple. He wants to know information on wheel/tire sizing. If you don't know- don't respond with another answer. Not hard.

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True that - Wwhhuutt up MP performance!... haha nice to see some Rowdy people on this board. Later

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We have never done a test fit on an 8.5 wide rim on an S13 here so I have no idea how big he is going to be able to go. As I suggested to someone today, contact the shop who's selling you the wheels. If they can't tell you what tire sizes they have test fit with that rim on that car, how do they even know the wheel will work? Volk is the only one who can tell him for sure what's going to work. He needs to contact them directly. It never ceases to amaze me how many people buy wheels and then try to figure out if they will fit the car and with what tire size. :confused: When you buy the wheels don't these shops tell you what tire sizes work best on the wheel you're buying on your type of vehicle? It just seems to me that if you are going to sell that wide of a fitment for a car, you'd make darn sure you test fit them first to make sure they are gonna work safely???? Wouldn't you also make darn sure you could tell the customer what tire sizes worked?

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Ok- people....let's pretend he NEVER MENTIONED A WHEEL BRAND....lets think here for a minute....a pretend wheel.... 17"x8.5" with +20mm offset on an S13. What is the widest he can go on that wheel with that car....not what kind of wheel should he get, not- the shop should know....because that's all irrelavent.

If anyone has experience with that specific wheel size, on that specific car- let him know....

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Why don't you re-read SmithSR's first post on this thread. What we are trying to say is that no one here has put this large of a tire on this car because it simply does not make sense. That's why no one has any experience in fitting a 275 tire back there. There is no reason to. If he wants to try it, I say go for it but he's going to have to have a local shop test fit it. No one is going to be able to tell him what sizes will work because no one has fit that wide of a wheel and tire on the car.

If anyone has experience with that specific wheel size, on that specific car- let him know....

If Volk is telling him this wheel is a good fit for the car, then he needs to check with him for the correct tire size. He can run as big of a size as he wants with enough cash and a Sawsall but don't expect anyone with any experience with these cars to tell him it's gonna fit like a glove. It's just way beyond the norm for what we see on these cars.

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roady, I suggest you take a step back and re-evaluate your words here. Not only did we provide him the information he asked for, but far more information to help him with his decision, all for free. WE didnt flame him, or act rudely to his request, which is exactly how your approaching this thread by rudely critisizing the people who helped him.

take a seat, please do be quiet, and you may learn something! ANd please do look around before critising helpfull people, its not just your world here man.-chet

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Signal uses 18x9.5 Volk Racing CE28N (Skyline offset with Project KIC wide-tread spacers) wrapped with Yokohama 265/35 A048....HMMM.....

BTW- didn't realize I was criticising anyone here....sorry....just trying to stay on topic.

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yes they do. but thats a S15 chassis, a wider rim, and a smaller width tire, and a RACING tire. Thats a big change from a 8.5" rim and 275-40 tire....

a 265-35-18 tire would work great on the rear of a higher-powered 240/silvia, as noted in man drift cars and race cars.

anyways, welcome to the boards, search around, you'll find more info than you'll ever need...

-chet


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