will Mazda 5 lug pattern fit?

[Beems240sx]

well i searched a bunch of key words but i didnt come up with anything usefull. i have these Borbet rims on my Mazda MX-6. the car is down and the rims with BRAND new tires have just been sitting and i want them on my 240! the tires on my 240 are over 7 years old and horrible. so if i convert to 5 lug will these fit?

[keith0486]

they should fit cus the stock bolt pattern is 5x114.3 so they should fit

[Beems240sx]

ill confirm on my MX-6 website that the bolt pattern is the same, thanks dude

[H8tred]

http://www.google.com/search?i...ttern

Seriously man, less than 2 seconds worth of type and click...

[Beems240sx]

seriously man, i would rather hear it for sure from people on the site. i do not want to buy the 5 lugs and find out the rims wont fit.

[skott.b]

lol. took the words out of my mouth. just for the record Ebay is not a good source of info. lol.

[hai1206vn]

i have no idea but u need to find out what the Mazda hub bore size is. It's 66mm on 240sx

[Beems240sx]

good call man, ill check it

[ca18detgabby]

alot of the mazda wheels have very high offsets.......... specially an MX6..... fitment will probably be crappy.

[Beems240sx]

this is the response i got from my mazda website. these are for the stock rims tho. it looks like the hub diameter is too small.

Stock 2G Mx6 wheels have a 5x114.3 bolt pattern with an offset of 42 and a hub diameter of 62mm

[szh]

it looks like the hub diameter is too small.

The pattern size is correct, but ... Yup. 62mm is too small for the hub opening.

Too small = no fit. Unless you ream it out and that is not a good idea, IMHO.

Too large = no support from the hubs. So, centering is done by the lug nuts (probably tough to stay balanced and vibration-free on the hub) and there is too much stress on the wheel bolt/nuts.

I'd suggest using rims designed to fit the car correctly!

Z

[Beems240sx]

thanks for all the info, looks like the Borbet's are staying on the MX6. i think im going to be saving up for a set of 18" Volk racing GT-C rims

[H8tred]

Most aftermarket wheels have an over sized hub bore. You have to get hub-centric rings. As far as boring them out, Honda guys have been doing it forever with Miata wheels. Not sure what size they're going to though. Nothing a machine shop can't handle for you though.

I was speaking of the craigslist ad. Has the lug spacing right in the title. Not to mention the numerous sites that have lists of most manufacturers lug spacing between generations and models. Just kind of an overall useless post. I wanted to use Trans AM meshies, but through a not very time consuming search I found that Pontiac thought it would be cool to use an oddball spacing... Just throwing that out there.

[skydragoness]

The pattern size is correct, but ... Yup. 62mm is too small for the hub opening.

Too small = no fit. Unless you ream it out and that is not a good idea, IMHO.

Too large = no support from the hubs. So, centering is done by the lug nuts (probably tough to stay balanced and vibration-free on the hub) and there is too much stress on the wheel bolt/nuts.

I'd suggest using rims designed to fit the car correctly!

Z

Holy crap a smart person in the suspension forum!? Do you have any idea how many dumb people retorted that I was wrong about how it imperative it is to have wheels with the correct hub bore? It's nice to see there's some sanity in here, I stopped coming into this section of the forum many, many months ago

[szh]

Most aftermarket wheels have an over sized hub bore. You have to get hub-centric rings.

Yes, you could. But it adds unnecessary weight to the final setup. Although it is small, and it is at the center, so not a bad thing per se. Regardless, why do it?

It still will not be as good as getting correct hub bore rims in the first place.

As far as boring them out, Honda guys have been doing it forever with Miata wheels. Not sure what size they're going to though. Nothing a machine shop can't handle for you though.

This is scary, IMHO. You end up removing some significant amount of metal (depending on how much you need to bore it out) right at the place where you need the original design of the wheel to stay as strong as possible. If the machinist is not careful, you could also have balance problems - where the wheel ends up inherently a bit off to begin with, and then you have to add more weight than necessary to balance the tire on the rim.

Plus, if it is an Aluminum wheel, removing the surface anodizing exposes the internal pure Aluminum. This is going to oxidize and pit a bit right where the "boring" was done.

Finally, it adds cost to the end result.

Again, why bother? It is better to just get the correctly fitted wheels in the first place!

Z

[hannibal]

Borbet Type T's!!! I like those wheels!

Theyre on the car in my avatar, called Blue Flame. It appeared on NissanPerformanceMag.com many years ago...