wich wLowering my G35!!!

[nismolife]

Am planing to lower my G35 sedan wich wears 18x8 in front and 18x9 in the rear. I wuz looking at the tein springs, the s type will lower 1 inch and the h type will lower 1.5. Now my question is how long can i go before i need a camber kit, also what kind of shocks spring combo are members using, and what kind of results are u getting (firmnes, rool, control and ride quality)

[NastyG]

i'm too looking for pics of different set-ups. Except I'm considering only Eibach. Just not sure whether I want the Pro-kit or Sportline. I heard the AT models weighs a few hundred pounds more in the front making the drop more significant. Ran into a guy at the dealership with Tein springs and he said they were garbage. They continued to lose strength and a 1.5" drop turned into a 3" drop. His front end was on the ground, rubbed and was tore to shreds. He was on stock 18"s also. The Eibachs are a little more money but worth the investment. Anyone have pics of Eibachs on their coupe of either model? I'm running on 20" wheels so I think the Pro-kit with only a 1" drop will be sufficient.. Thanks

[nismolife]

Il have to look into that. My brother had a set of tein coil overs on his 3rd gen Rx7 wich performed exelently well, But considering that he had a set of coil overs (not lowering springs) that was $1300.00 maybe the quality there is better. On the other hand my wifes bettle is lowered with a set of eibach pro kit and the quality of the ride is not far from factory, handiling improve very well beside the factory boat like ride.

[C-Kwik]

I would get the Eibachs. The quality is simply better.

As far as camber, there's no question of how long you can drive before needing them or not. You will either need them or you won't period. There will be more camber if you lower it. If you don't find it acceptable, then you will need them as soon as you lower them. Alignment problems will begin wearing tires the moment you start driving.

Most cheap coilovers aren't going to be better than a good set of springs with a good set of shocks. The only advantage will really be that you can adjust the corner weights of the car. And remember, riding stiffer does not necessarily equal better handling. It can give the impression of it due to the better response, but doesn't mean it's actually gripping any better.

[33infinity33]

Tein's are good springs, if not the best. However, there was a huge run of counterfit Tein's on the market, mostly on Ebay for cheap. These gave the real thing a bad name. I'd bet your friends springs are counterfit. The S-Tech does a nice 1.2"F/.9"R drop. What I don't like a bout Eibach's is they always drop the rear too much, You'll notice on a stock G35 that there is more fender gap in the front than the rear - you need more front drop in lowering springs to compensate for this, like the Tein's do.

[NastyG]

Everyone has there likes. The Eibach gives you 1.1F/1.0R. You show me the difference. I would like to see a pic? I still will go with the Eibach. No chance of counterfit. If your running 18's they also have a sportline which will lower with 1.6F/1.4R.

[C-Kwik]

Tein's are good springs, if not the best. However, there was a huge run of counterfit Tein's on the market, mostly on Ebay for cheap. These gave the real thing a bad name. I'd bet your friends springs are counterfit. The S-Tech does a nice 1.2"F/.9"R drop. What I don't like a bout Eibach's is they always drop the rear too much, You'll notice on a stock G35 that there is more fender gap in the front than the rear - you need more front drop in lowering springs to compensate for this, like the Tein's do.

A good spring does not drop a car according to how it looks. A good spring has to consider how it changes the dynamics of the car. It's easy enough to design a spring to drop it a certain height. It's harder to do so when you want a specific rate and want to ensure a good ride, good performance and adequate suspension travel. Most lowering springs use very little spring preload to ease installation (if you've ever tried to squeeze a factory spring back onto a shock or strut, you'll know that the springs tend to be exceptionally long and may require a professional spring compressor). Arbitrarily reducing ride height here could make it difficult to obtain the spring rate you want for the given ride height.

And I highly doubt that Tein makes the best springs. Last I checked, they don't cater to F1, NASCAR or any huge budget racing bodies. I haven't heard of any OE's contracting Tein to make their springs either. Frankly, I'd be surprised if they actually use a cold wound spring. Tein has done a good job of bringing function and form to the market. But I would not list them at the top of the quality list, particularly in the case of the springs. If I were to get a set of Tein coilovers, I'd be looking to swap out the springs for some Eibach ERS springs (if the sizes are even compatible).

[nismolife]

it seem like i got plenty of input here. my last vehicle was a 02 mazda mp5 it had a set of coil overs (Ground control) and i lower it a total of 2 inches and was able to have enough adjustment to align it with no camber adjusters needed. Now let me ask another question?? were the 20hp come from (260 on the sedan 280 on the coupe) is it a computer program away, or other parts different from both (cams, heads, intake or exaust manifolds) i mean for now all i wan't is a few simple boltons, but if 20hp is an easy task il take the challenge for it.

[Jerry Bell]

I have a 2004 that I installed an Eibach Pro kit on about 2 years ago. The drop was about 1-1.5 inches and it looks great. The only problem I had was tire wear on the inside. I recently installed a camber kit that I hope will eliminate the problem.

[NastyG]

I just put the Pro Kit on Sat. The car looks fresh.... The looks I get have doubled but I seriously see a camber problem. With the camber adjusted the tires would sit perfect to the fender. I was hoping after I get an alignment they would be able to adjust the factory set camber enough to compensate. Did you buy the Eibach camber kit?

[Jerry Bell]

Eibach doesn't offer a front camber kit for a 2004 so I went with another brand. I had them installed at the dealer about 11K miles ago, but I still am experiencing excessive inside tire wear. I brought it back this morning to see if they could solve the issue. I think I may have to take it to someone who knows what they are doing. I will try to keep you posted as you are going to have to do somethng to stop the tire wear.Jerry.....

[Dakkerz]

Eibach doesnt make a camber kit. Some after market camber kits to look into are:

Cusco (keep in mind they only offer .5 degree of positive camber adjustment)SPLSPCKineticsStillen350evo

[C-Kwik]

On the rear, check the toe as well. The toe changes with suspension movement.