Why put a turbo on a four cylinder???

[trpower7]

Ok, I really am starting to get furious at these kids that think they know cars. Kind of odd to say so, myself being a kid (practically, I'm 18, but hey), but I just have to hit you all with some stuff these kids said. So we are walking along, talking about cars, and a 20 something year old kid claims that his truck is by far the fastest of all of us. Now here is what he says has made it so fast:

1) A 97 crate 350 "bored out to make it a 387 Stroker"

Response: Now correct me if I'm wrong, but BORING an engine just increases displacement, not increase length of stroke. To make it a "stroker" would require a fair amount more of work"

2) Quadrajet Carbs

Response: Now correct me if I'm wrong, but a 97 motor would be fuel injected, unless it was just a normal crate 350 you buy from Summit or somewhere. I think you just have a crate motor built in 97, not a "97" crank motor, year badges on these things really don't mean anything

3) Air locker in the front and Detroit locker in the rear

Response: How the hell would that affect your straight line speed??

4) (Myself: I am going to turbo my 2.4L at about 8PSI)

His Response: Why the hell would you turbo a four cylinder?????

5) (Myself: You could really crank out some power from the 350 with a good blower kit, you know, a supercharger)

His Response: A blower isn't the same thing as a supercharger!!

That's all I can remember now, just wanted to vent on kids like this guy...........

[MaineExport]

2) Quadrajet Carbs

Response: Now correct me if I'm wrong, but a 97 motor would be fuel injected, unless it was just a normal crate 350 you buy from Summit or somewhere. I think you just have a crate motor built in 97, not a "97" crank motor, year badges on these things really don't mean anything

It wouldn't be hard to change to a carb setup.... even if it was fuel-injected. I though most crate engines came with block and head... that's it? I suppose it just depends on where you get it from.

[trpower7]

I meant that most crate motors you would buy from Summit aren't stamped with any year, and they are carbuerated or course. No reason to call it a "97", so I really don't know what he was talking about. It's not so much the carb thing that got me, but the fact that all of a sudden boring an engine out makes it a "stroker". And I'm not sure you can bore a 350 all the way out to 387, that seems like a good bit.

[Repo Man]

He would have to add a stroker crank to his 350 to get that displacement. A typical stroker crank will yield a 383 and add an overbore to that to get the 387. He sounds like a wanker to me. Long live NASCAR!!!!!! :thumbd

[Stoneage_Turbo]

the only meanings of the 97 crate engine could be

#1 , vortech heads , these wake small blocks up

#2 gm sells there performace engines set up for carbs most of the time, so hes bought a 97 crate motor like you said , probably a zz4 i think that was the crate code for a gm perfomance parts small block with vortech heads

small blocks are wicked fun dude , im actualy going down on stroke for my next build up of one , starting with a 327 and tossing a 283 crank its way , adapting vortech heads and lt1 fuel injection . shooting for 350 streetable hp and 8500 rpm redline out of 302 cubes , like a 60s z28 camaro . building it up for a vette now looking at a 84 , 84 wont go up in value as they made so many as they started building too late to call them 83s so this would make a good car to convert

[Goodbar6]

-Yea, in order to make a 383 stroker, a 400 crank is needed.-Detroit Locker would help get off the line.

Tyler

[MaineExport]

3) Air locker in the front and Detroit locker in the rear

on this issue.... he would have been much better off with a ARB air locker in the REAR.... and the Detroit up front. It would make for a far more streetable setup. You can turn the air-locker on and off at the push of a button. For drag racing, you'd turn it on to help launch traction. But air-lockers are almost always a 50/50 positive lock.. and suck on pavement when turning. The Detroit is also a 50/50 split, and terrible on-road. If he had the Detroit up front, it would only affect performance when the transfer case was engauged... plus the steering end makes for less difference in wheel spin rates during a turn.

To sum it up... he should have either gone air-lockers front and back.. or in back with the Detroit up front... NOT the way he did it.

[Stoneage_Turbo]

amen maine amen !!!

[InstantRice]

word.

[MasterMan]

FReaks Mom.

Over 1 billion served.

LOL....

[FrEaK]

I only thing funny about that is the fact that my mom has served a billion less than yours has...

[Mayhem_J30]

i have no idea what you guys are talking about. i only know one thing about stroke and it has nothing to do with cars

[FrEaK]

Why does that not surprise me...

[Stoneage_Turbo]

sounds like mayhems girl is mad at him again , times like these i bet he appricates the low thermal viscosity breakdown of Mobil One full synth

[FrEaK]

I think he's made up his own compoud that has 0 as a coefficient of friction....

[ser chicken]

okay... my magical 2 cents

yes boring alone doesnt make a stroker, but imagine since its a crate motor and numnuts didnt really build it that he's just going from what the add saidalso... QUADRAJETS?!?! theres a benchmark of performance! HELLO! some buddy get this guy a nascar hat!97 was probably the year the engine was purchasedthe responce of "why turbo a 4 cylinder?" leaves me to believe our pushrod friend is feeling the typical V8 power slogan "bigger is better" brought on by the absolute excess of useless weight and poor design... A nascar t-shirt is now in orderand the idea that blowing and supercharging is different... well... gee... a gear/belt/ shaft driven *71 blower is a roots type blower that uses two rotating vanes that spin into each other, coming within very close tolerances to each other at high rpms compressing the air between them and forcing it down into the intake manifold (or block if its still being used on the detroit desiel it got its name from)... and supercharging (with a cetrifical type supercharger) is a gear/belt/shaft driven air compressing unit that force feeds the intake of an engine... seems very very.. the same... its now time for a pair of nascar sweatpants and a giant #3 for the front drivers side window of our heros truck. this way we have a better chance of halting his additions to the genepool

wow.. i am bitter tonight-pete s

[FrEaK]

LOL it's obvious the guys a gomer...

[Stoneage_Turbo]

so did you race the benz or what dude ?

[FrEaK]

Oh ****.. yea dude I beat him.... i took him off the line and speed shifted through 3 and 4 gear (no clutch) he started to pull on me at the end, but i flashed hazards because it was over.... i know your thinkin my transmission must be mush but believe it or not it actually worked quite well...as for the benz i think his constant abuse on the car helped me out a little....

[Stoneage_Turbo]

good kill , that was at the track wasnt it??????

say :

"yes revrend it was at the freak interational speedway"

[FrEaK]

Actually i did it a Sparta Drag strip.... Freak internation dragway has oil on the track...

[Stoneage_Turbo]

hmm very good ...

"Freak internation dragway has oil on the track..."

i hear kitty litter works very well for that

[FrEaK]

so do enourmous jet engines....