Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

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Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby JayArras » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:42 am

The service manuals posted for all of the Nissan brands are awesome, but they seem to stop for the later model years. I'm interested in service manuals after the 2017 Pathfinder model refresh because some things are very different. Any idea where they may be obtained?


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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby VStar650CL » Mon Apr 05, 2021 9:56 am

The new Nissan ESM's are HTML and not PDF, and they don't lend themselves to digital replication.

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby JayArras » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:13 am

Do we have access to them?

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby VStar650CL » Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:31 am

Only with a subscription from Nissan. Nobody has hacked any to my knowledge, and even if someone does, translating them to a more-portable format is likely to be rough.

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby datechboss101 » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:15 am

VStar650CL wrote:
Mon Apr 05, 2021 11:31 am
Only with a subscription from Nissan. Nobody has hacked any to my knowledge, and even if someone does, translating them to a more-portable format is likely to be rough.
Couldn't you just hit ctrl + P and click print to PDF?

OR

Its easier said than done?

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby JayArras » Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 am

datechboss101 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:15 am
Couldn't you just hit ctrl + P and click print to PDF?

OR

Its easier said than done?
If you've seen the pdfs that are available, there are a number of branches (links) to other details. You could print to pdf the page you were on, but then the other links would be unavailable. I guess everything is moving online these days. Too bad mere mortals no longer have access to the the later model years manuals.

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby VStar650CL » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:03 pm

JayArras wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:40 am
datechboss101 wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:15 am
Couldn't you just hit ctrl + P and click print to PDF?

OR

Its easier said than done?
If you've seen the pdfs that are available, there are a number of branches (links) to other details. You could print to pdf the page you were on, but then the other links would be unavailable. I guess everything is moving online these days. Too bad mere mortals no longer have access to the the later model years manuals.
Yep. It's worse than that, because the stuff is secured too. None of the windows keys that allow export work when you're in the SM, and even the printouts go through an embedded handler. It's way past me, I'm good with stand-alone microcontrollers but I'm no systems guy by any stretch.

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby AZhitman » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:26 pm

The quick and dirty answer is, Nissan doesn't want regular folks accessing the manuals, and cut off FSM publication in 2016 (give or take a year for certain models).

We catch hell over it, but there's nothing we can do about it, and all of the existing ones were bought (and hosted) as a service to our members. Until NNA decides to allow 'regular people' to peruse their 2016+ FSMs, we're at a standstill.

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Re: Why no Pathfinder Service Manuals for MY 2017 +?

Postby VStar650CL » Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:31 pm

AZhitman wrote:
Tue Apr 06, 2021 4:26 pm
The quick and dirty answer is, Nissan doesn't want regular folks accessing the manuals, and cut off FSM publication in 2016 (give or take a year for certain models).

We catch hell over it, but there's nothing we can do about it, and all of the existing ones were bought (and hosted) as a service to our members. Until NNA decides to allow 'regular people' to peruse their 2016+ FSMs, we're at a standstill.
Very sad but very true, on all counts.


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