why jim wolf or enthalpy?

[brizanden]

why would i go jim wolf or enthalpy tune for around 600 dollars if i could just get a local shop to tune my ka-t setup? couldnt a place proll do the same if not better with my car actually there for less money? idk i have never been to a performance shop, but i do know of a few in columbus.

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Well, you'd need some kind of tuning hardware, like a stand alone system or an emanage or SAFC or something, which costs money, in addition to the tune, which also costs money.In addition to that, many people don't have a local tuner shop to do the tune, so they need something, that is where the tuned ECU comes in. Finally, most people want a "base tune" just so they can get the car running before they take it the shop to fine tune it. There is also something that happens when using a piggyback system when controlling your injectors. It makes the engine think its under load, and therefore alter the timing. With an ECU tune you won't get that.

[shimizu_17]

Because JWT and enthalpy are nissan tuning experts. You pay a lot but you get what you pay for which is a plug and play tuning solution.

Besides I dont know to many shops that do ecu tunes. They tune standalones or piggyback setups like safc's and emanage

[usdm_180sx]

JWT and Enthalpy mail order rom tunes will always be off. If your local tuner is a good tuner have him real time dyno rom tune your ecu.

[DevilMB3017]

The guy around here would do a tune for roughly the same money, but with my car on the dyno.

But I'd have to have something for him to tune. Most likely a standalone like AEM or Greddy unit. Most local tuners won't want to do a ROM tune - SOME will though.

Ask your local tuners and find out

[brizanden]

yeah wht i meant to say is i want a rom tune. thanks for the info tho guys.

[madd ocx]

yeah a rom tune done by a tuner shop on a dyno will always be better cause you its being done real time.. enthalpy and jwt tunes are as good as you can get for plug and play.. trust me the 600 is worth it if you don't have a tuner shop that will do it. its up to you

[s14tan]

Don't mean to thread jack,

What is the difference between JWT and Enthalpy?

[BoostFab]

why would i go jim wolf or enthalpy tune for around 600 dollars if i could just get a local shop to tune my ka-t setup? couldnt a place proll do the same if not better with my car actually there for less money? idk i have never been to a performance shop, but i do know of a few in columbus.

neither.

you can't fine tune it w/o adding on a piggy back. i suggest looking into Nistune you can do live tuning and data tracing/logging.

[brizanden]

i was told i could run reliably with a rom tune and no safc or anything

[BoostFab]

i was told i could run reliably with a rom tune and no safc or anything

you can, however it's not perfect mail order tune never are. most people run either enthalpy or jwt added a safc for fine-tune-ability. a friend of mine just got rid of his enthalpy for a calumsult setup, it's very similar to nistune, but i think the nistune has an edge.

[GTR PrYdE]

i was told i could run reliably with a rom tune and no safc or anything

Yes but it may take 1 or 2 tries. If you have a local tuner go with them- IF they can ROM tune. If they want to tune you with a SAFC, tell them to f%^k off.

A rom tune from Enthalpy is great if you can't get locally tuned by a badarse tuner.

Go from there

[480sx]

What is the difference between JWT and Enthalpy?

A few difs that i have read about.

100 bucks, JWT being more expensive.

JWT always run richer, to rich in a lot of cases. Enthalpys tunes are generally seen as the best your going to get for a generic plug and play rom tune.

SAFC + Enthalpy rom tune is a great combo. You dont need a SAFC, but it pays off with better fuel econ and more power. This is true IF you have a WBO2 system or a tuner to lean it out for you.

[brizanden]

wait jw is like 500 for s14 and enthalpy is 600. how did u get enthalpy cheaper?

[madd ocx]

enthalpy is 500 for an s13 and 600 for an s14 cause you need to get the conversion harness.. jim wolf is 600 from what i remember..

[brizanden]

exactly. lol both 600 aka redic. maybe i just need to learn how to do this myself....

[DevilMB3017]

I also have to say that I've e-mailed Enthalpy and talked to the guy actually doing the tunes.

When you talk to JWT you are just getting batch files that aren't as specific as for your exact setup. JWT wants to know MAF and injectors.

Enthalpy will tune for your MAF and injectors...plus camshafts, valve differences, the different compression due to headgaskets, what your average ambient temps are...Enthalpy is the best mail order for KA-T or SR20 IMO.

[madd ocx]

yeah enthalpy does ask for everything that you have with your setup! so he can get it as accurate as possible. but an safc does help too for little adjustments!

[brizanden]

thats nice that enthalpy gets all specific, but my motor is prolly gonna be all stock cept for turbo, maf, injector, and other fuel stuff.

[adoboboy]

When I ordered my JWT tune, I spoke with Ben. He asked me about my MAF, injector size, compression, size of the turbo, Gas octane i'll be using. etc.

[sunnys14]

Contacting enthalpy is pretty much helpless. I got a lean retune from him last month and I told him to send me a richer tune, and he said I will get a retune within a week or so.

Now its a month later and nothing.

Not to mention I sent him money for my retune about a month in advance.

[brizanden]

sooo ****? dont go emance or enthalpy lol. whts left jwt?edit: anyone have any info on the calum ecus?
Modified by brizanden at 11:05 PM 10/21/2008

[shimizu_17]

If you want to wait like 4-6 months for a tune from JWT and hear nothing the whole time go for it.

I knew it would take forever for them to send out the ecu thats why I ordered it way before I upgraded my turbo setup.

Emance has a bad rep, enthalpy is gettin a lil slow but maybe he is busy in life at the moment? I never hear anything about EFI specialist on nico.

If any of you feel comfortable tuning your own setup I say go for nistune, calum, or megasquirt.

[brizanden]

idk much about tuning but i would like to learn. if someone can direct me to a good bit of info in general tuning and about calum i would appreciate it

[BoostFab]

idk much about tuning but i would like to learn. if someone can direct me to a good bit of info in general tuning and about calum i would appreciate it

here's a good read and get you going http://eccs.hybridka.com/viewt...&sd=a

[brizanden]

thanks man

[ghx407]

Emance has a bad rep, enthalpy is gettin a lil slow but maybe he is busy in life at the moment? I never hear anything about EFI specialist on nico.

EFI Specialist/Redline ECU here. I'm very happy with the tune, so are a lot of people at ka-t.org from what I've read.

Here's the dyno sheet with zero SAFC tuning. Bear in mind that the base fuel pressure was 45psi instead of the recommended 34-36psi. Idle AFRs were high 13s and low 14s.



This is a couple of months later, after correcting the fuel pressure, upping the boost, and a -5 to -7% SAFC correction:

[480sx]

I'm very happy with the tune, so are a lot of people at ka-t.org from what I've read.

I guess you missed the 3 page thread in the ECU tuning section completely bashing Jason, with 2-3 people who blew their motors with his tune.

[ghx407]

The EFI Specialist/Redline tuner is Khiem; that's who I'm vouching for. I searched the ECU/Tuning section on ka-t.org, and didn't find any threads bashing Khiem or EFI Specialist, just plenty of positive feedback.

However, I did find several threads bashing Jason from Emance: http://www.ka-t.org/forums/vie...+blew
Modified by ghx407 at 9:58 PM 10/22/2008

[brizanden]

hmm how much was the efi tune?