Why is versa getting a bad Reliable rating

[lexluther]

What is the reason for a bad reliability rating? Is it because of the fuel pump and steering knock or other reasons? If so what are they???
Thanks
Luther

[led hed]

seems nissan has a problem with their fuel pump on earlier vehicles as well, no big deal, just replace it.

the steering knock isn't a 'reliability' issue, it's just an issue that is more of an annoyance.

if this is all the problems we get, then we are lucky. so far i have had ZERO issues, 12000 kms so far.

browse other forums and compare THEIR issues with ours, i'm sure you will be pleasently surprised that we have fewer problems than other manufacturers.

now, you want to talk about 'issues' look up the 2002 nissan sentra spec-v, then come back here and breathe a sigh of relief.

[kc5f]

With the three Versas in our family having 28k, 60k and 106k miles on them, the only problem we've had was one had the fuel pump regulator issue. But I'm sure the recalls for the brake fluid reservoir cap, when they mailed us a new cap because the wording was missing a warning, and for the passenger seat belt tensioner sensor repair because some "may have been damaged during manufacturing" both count as reliability hits. I can live with that type of issue!

[srellim234]

What is the reason for a bad reliability rating? Is it because of the fuel pump and steering knock or other reasons? If so what are they???
Thanks
Luther

Who's rating it as unreliable? Source and/or link, please.

[lexluther]

Consumer reports march issue. I like mine Alot and the fuel pump fixed the issue i had with it. Its been a great car 13,000miles

[frankoV]

if this is all the problems we get, then we are lucky. so far i have had ZERO issues, 12000 kms so far.

70,000; ZERO issues [other than that thing that no one else senses but me]

[srellim234]

Among other things it would be interesting to know how small the sample size was. That, and how they actually computed the numbers.

For example, my car has been in for a driver's door leak and resulting electrical short three times in early 2009 and three more times in 2010, primarily due to the ineptness of the dealership and not the unreliability of the car. It should have been fixed the first time under warranty. Does CR count that as 6 warranty repairs or one? The problem in no way affects the mechanical operation of the car and is more of a nuisance than anything else. While I am dealing with it through the dealership and Nissan, my brother, a longtime Consumer Reports member, would be screaming at Consumer Reports because the car is not absolutely perfect.

If a car is recalled for a problem that shows up in a few of the cars, how does that affect the reliability of the model? Nissan issued a notice on the fuel pressure regulator but is replacing them only as they fail. Toyota recalled almost everything in their lineup, meaning they were all unreliable. Did CR ding Nissan (actual repairs resulting from observed problems) or Toyota (many more repairs but resulting from only a few observed problems) worse?

Methodology and sample size are incredibly important.

Consumer Reports is a tool, just like Edmunds, Kelley, True Delta, car magazines, etc. to refer to when researching a car purchase. The fact that CR is the only one really showing anything out of the ordinary for the Versa leads me to believe that CR's data is flawed compared to the entire run of Versas.

[lexluther]

I agree although it will effect any resale value for thoses interested. I myself could care less considering i purchased one!! I drive my cars to death and i hope for a long life with this Car. So far a Very good decision on my Part. 31mpg and Room to spare

[versatil]

I believe that for some reason, the sedan has a lower reliability rating.

[Andrews Chalmers]

The problem with the Versa was that there were a lot of initial production build quality issues during the 2007 model year.

Then when the sedan version was introduced, more initial production build quality issues emerged.

They were all ultimately resolved - but the deed was done.

Don't get me wrong - I enjoy this vehicle, but there were a lot of initial problems for many early adopters. Just off the top of my head?

The gasoline cap release cables were not properly connected in many 2007 models. QC never picked up on the matter until the vehicles were shipped, delivered, and the consumer needed to GASP... refuel.

Then there was the dash panel alignment issues on the passenger side.

There were also several issues with the vehicle creating excessive wind noise to due to a dent made during production that created a gap between the driver side mirror and paneling.

Then the notorious fuel pump issue.

In the 2008/2009 models there were some instances of water leaking into passenger cabins.

Don't get me wrong - it is a great car, but if you're someone unlucky enough to have to deal with this, it isn't "trivial."

On the bright side - Nissan generally don't have systematic mechanical issues... unlike uh... certain Honda transmissions.

[lexluther]

Thanks thats reasuring. As with all cars there are allway's issues.

[Bubs daddy]

Haven't read the consumer reports March issue. Haven't found Consumer Reports to be of any relevancy.

I do know that all cars have issues. Go to any board and there's griping about one thing or another. Early production models of any car have niggles and faults.

[Blade107]

I just got a new 2011 Sedan S Auto and I really like the car considering the price tag and been a Nissan (Renault?). Reading this thread was somehow a relief because I've read plenty of bad press and the CR report about reliability plus the Fuel Pressure Regulator issue with the Versa. I sure hope this has been dealt with by now.

BTW, what you guys think about these discussions:

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct ... x=.f1155a7

[Bubs daddy]

None of these stories or posts can be verified to be true. Did these incidences all actually happen? Who knows. Anyone with an internet connection can register and make any claim about any car they want to.

Any one of us could register on Edmunds or any other site and claim such and such happened to a car none of us own. There are people out there who want to cause confusion or disparage a brand of vehicle because they own another type of vehicle. Or for who knows how many reasons. There's some sick, twisted people out there.

I'm not saying that they are all making up stories. But how do you tell? You can't verify any of them.

[Blade107]

None of these stories or posts can be verified to be true. Did these incidences all actually happen? Who knows. Anyone with an internet connection can register and make any claim about any car they want to.

Any one of us could register on Edmunds or any other site and claim such and such happened to a car none of us own. There are people out there who want to cause confusion or disparage a brand of vehicle because they own another type of vehicle. Or for who knows how many reasons. There's some sick, twisted people out there.

I'm not saying that they are all making up stories. But how do you tell? You can't verify any of them.

You definitely have a point Bubs.

I see you have an 07 which was the first year of the Versa right? - Any outstanding issues with the car since new?

Thanks

[aidan80]

I've just over 11,000 miles on my 2009 Versa S Manual which I bought late last October 2009. So far I've had no issues other than a self inflicted issue where I accidentally damaged the airbag light in the dash, I thought it was a button lol. I'm very happy with my purchase in fact I'd go as far to say it's the best money I've spent. Ok I have a car payment but it's a small thing when ending up with a good vehicle which is now getting me about 30mpg - 32mpg back and forth to work and just hitting 34mpg on the highway.

On the other side of that, my last car was a Escort it had one previous owner, I bought it at 75k and in looked near new and drove like it to start with. Talk about issues I had with that thing which started at 82k all the way up until it's death at 96k! Timing belt (yes those stupid cars had a belt!) it went out, also replaced the tensioner. Replaced the A/C plus motor mounts were going bad so throw in 3 motor mounts. Idle Air Control Valve went out along with some misc hoses. Tie rods were replaced plus i put four new goodyear tires on it then came the final insult.. the engine died! Well the prognosis was valve damage causing excessive knocking. The solution was new engine or rebuild. I had enough of that ford at that point in time and bought the Versa. Ever since it's been smooth, quite and comfortable driving. The only thing I have to worry about is regular maintenance and no more bad half arsed ford engineering.

[Blade107]

Do you take your car to the dealer for regular maintenance?

Nice Blue Versa you have there aidan!

[Bubs daddy]

I see you have an 07 which was the first year of the Versa right? - Any outstanding issues with the car since new?

She's been a beaut. Almost four years old and 40,000 miles. Dependable and reliable.

I also do all the maintenance. Still have the original brake pads.

[08versailles]

?!?!?
94600km and no problems.
Unknown problems regarding previous owner.
I purchased w 78800km past May.
313000km on previous Sentra...
Spent money only on brakes, oil & filters, MAF sensor at 153000km, and AC O-rings and some freon.
...and tires
Unreliable?
Even tho i test drove almost everything on four wheels, this Versa was such an easy pick!

[aidan80]

Do you take your car to the dealer for regular maintenance?

Nice Blue Versa you have there aidan!

I do take it into the dealership. They seem to be fair in their charges for oil changes and everything else so far.