Why is everyone pre KA-T always 300HP!?

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Every noob I read its I want or shooting for 300HP


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its a nice round number that "seems" Ok on stock internals, until they start to do the resaerch. plus its double the ratted HP from the KA which seems like a fun place to start...

Just my opinion...cause thats what i thought over a year ago when i started buildint the KA thats in my s14 now

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Because they realize that 300hp on the KA is the safe stock limit, and once they boost they get the boost bug bite and go for more. I think thats normal with a lot of cars that are getting boosted with after market parts.

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I'm not sure what kind of HP i'm shooting for. But i have 9:1 CR CP pistons, getting new rods and V2 cams, lieght weight flywheel, underdrive pulley, beefy clutch, ignition stuff, tuned computer and some sort of turbo, i haven't figured out what the best turbowould be to go with, with all the things i'm doing. I'm also getting a little head work done and block work done, so my compression will be lower than stock, but still kind of high. So i need to know what turbo would be safe to go with, and how much boost i could use safely without blowing my motor. Any suggestions would help. Also, what kind of HP do you think i'll end up with when i'm all done. I have alot more things i'm doing besides what i listed, just can't think right now.

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I agree that 300 seems like a mark. heres MY thought.... people think.. they want at least 300... because for all the END cost of turboing the 240 PLUS the actualy cost of the car, they could have just bought a N/A vechicle with about the same HP... so they say 300 because it would justify all the time/effort/ and cost... Im sure that really didnt make much sense buy maybe it did... either way.. boost on

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I also rember when i was a NICO newbie, a few years ago. one of my first posts was how to make 350 reliable HP on 2500$ Oh i rember when i was un-educated

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I'm looking for 350 Just got to go to the dyno to see how many lbs to run to get there. And to check, to make sure everything is flowing right. BRM exhaust tomorrow

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i want 300whp on 12psi but i realise ill probably only make 260-280 on 12psi... damm my lack of a rom tune....

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because thats right past what a well tuned sr makes so they can pwn them, haven't you heard?

no, but i am shooting for around there because i want to have a strong, reliable street car that i can track occasionally. that and give a z33 a fun for his money

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Hey, my brothers car made 300 *crank* . As for myself... I'll see what a t25 can do. Almost done collecting parts for this.

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Why 300? 200 sounds weak and 400 seems like too much of a hassle.

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200 sounds weak? 200whp on an s chasis is more than enough for a fun daily driver....

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^ Indeed.

300hp in an S-chassis makes for a handful, esp for a novice driver.

I can't WAIT to dyno mine!!!

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300hp is a nice goal cuz as said before, its double the factory hp (factory rated numbers lol). also 300hp equates to a 13 second car.............which is normally quick enough to out run most things u would see on a daily basis.

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Bosrudorfer wrote:Every noob I read its I want or shooting for 300HP
it's funny how all of them are so eager to have a 300whp when they never in their life driving a boosted car. guess wut, we'll see another 240 to the wreck yard, and a coffin on order.

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^^^^I think you hit the nail on the head. that and 200whp was impressive say 5 years ago, but hell you can buy a new camry now with 270hp. and lets just face it, there is just something very gratifying about smoking a shiney new car and knowing you did it for 1/3 the price.

oh and I'm pretty guilty I'm hoping for around 280whp when I'm done.

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Keep in mind how heavy the new camrys are, and how the 2007 v6 models mostly come with an auto transmission. That 268 made at the crank....is really measly for such a car. The base models weigh in at over 3300 lbs. 200rwhp on an s chasis only weighing 2700 lbs dry is more than enough to keep ahead of most stock cars out on the road now ( keep in mind crank hp and the power put down at the wheels can be significantly differant to those reading this without a clue)....some people just don't have a clue nowdays.....

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good point ^^^^ i forget about that a lot

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Dey ig'nant.

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I just drove the new Camry, its a nice friggin car with plenty in the balls category for a NA FWD V6.


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Toyota can make motors. My uncles 2004 Tacoma has 240,000 on it. (he drives from Maine to VA alot) and that thing does NOT burn or drip a SINGLE drop of oil. All routine maitenance done by him

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Poor_S13_Driver wrote:Toyota can make motors. My uncles 2004 Tacoma has 240,000 on it. (he drives from Maine to VA alot) and that thing does NOT burn or drip a SINGLE drop of oil. All routine maitenance done by him
it's all about the maintenance of the vehicle, if an idot owner don't care for--doesn't matter car it is, it will fail early. my nissan hardbody is about 200k miles and still going strong. take that! on the other hand, my sister owns a 2005 Scion Tc, also made by Toyota, the fuel pump died at 20k miles, what do you think of that?

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yah why is that such a freakin surprise about toyota I mean they did make the 2jz right. Plus there is a post on here that theoreticaly speaking a well lubed maintained engine shouldnt even show signs of wear after 200k miles. So Im not sure why everyone is so surprised when they see a motor with 240k miles on it and it runs perfectly. I mean look at all the high milesage boosted KA's, probably most of us on here own one and if they get a decent tune on it the turbo is usally the first to go anyways.

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same thing can be said about the little 1.6L and 1.8L that honda makes.............just think how many women that own a car that has this engine in it don't bother to check the oil or change it.............but yet, it's still going...............

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boznuttz wrote:Keep in mind how heavy the new camrys are, and how the 2007 v6 models mostly come with an auto transmission. That 268 made at the crank....is really measly for such a car. The base models weigh in at over 3300 lbs. 200rwhp on an s chasis only weighing 2700 lbs dry is more than enough to keep ahead of most stock cars out on the road now ( keep in mind crank hp and the power put down at the wheels can be significantly differant to those reading this without a clue)....some people just don't have a clue nowdays.....
I was just using a Camry as an example, I just mean in general that manufacturer's today offer higher output right out of the box . it used to be you'd have to get an exotic to get 400hp, now you can drive down to your local dealer, and drive some hemi monster home. and beleive me I understand what your saying about power to weight and whp vs. bhp but standing around the water cooler bragging about your 200hp isn't going to impress many. I mean can you imagine Nissan trying to introduce the 240sx today as a sports car, 155hp would get laughed at!....okay I'll step off my soap box sorry.

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blckkat wrote:I was just using a Camry as an example, I just mean in general that manufacturer's today offer higher output right out of the box . it used to be you'd have to get an exotic to get 400hp, now you can drive down to your local dealer, and drive some hemi monster home. and beleive me I understand what your saying about power to weight and whp vs. bhp but standing around the water cooler bragging about your 200hp isn't going to impress many. I mean can you imagine Nissan trying to introduce the 240sx today as a sports car, 155hp would get laughed at!....okay I'll step off my soap box sorry.
Using once the word "turbo" is mentioned they

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I love my RWHP I am at.. 240 - 250.. Very fun.

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GEO wrote:I love my RWHP I am at.. 240 - 250.. Very fun.
Geo you still runing the auto?

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Jookmasta i wasant trying to be a wise ***, i was using my uncles truck as an example TO back up MY OPINION that toyota makes a good car. And i was talking about motor failure, and leaks.. Not a fuel pump problem (even though that can lead to motor damage) And yes a properly maintained car should last well over the 200K mark.. but im safe to assume most people that buy a new car, especially the ones that have women drivers that dont check simple stuff as was mentioned, dont do maintenance. So you show me a car that can handle not being serviced as much, yet still runs decent in my book, that manufacturer can make a good car. Thats just what I think.

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Relax, lol. I had some guy a while ago at the local BK brag his a** off for his "300 hp monster STI". I only told him I was pushing around 240ish hp cough* to the wheels cough*. We went for a quick pull on the highway. He learned the differance to whp and bhp, lol. ( besides weight etc, etc.)


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