Why I hate car salesmen

[SixGuns]

First off, my dad sold cars for years upon years....so I've seen the game on both sides...but I went into the local Jeep dealership to see the new Wranglers, 'cause they have the 3.8 V6 now instead of the 4.0 I6...And they now put D44's in the rear rather than the crappy 35's....either way, I wanted to test drive them...the salesman first didn't know d!ck about Jeeps....I asked general questions about the rig and every answer was, "I don't know"...he then proceeded to involuntarily vomit a line about "Lifetime powertrain warranty"....Like it's a catch-phrase. So I test drove an '08 after his monkey-f*cking-a-football routine of trying to remember the serial number for more than 20 paces to get the key...Finally get on the road, he's swearing up a storm....mind you, I was in the Navy, and I can make a nun die, but professionalism used to be the name of the game....if your customer starts cursing, ok, fair game, but keep it PG13..if your customer stops to BS and have a smoke, go ahead and light up...but this dude was above and beyond...at stop lights (he already knew I was married) he kept telling me to pull up into the intersection so he could scope out a bibmo in the car next to us...another MFAF routine at the gas station as he tried to put 6 bucks in, and couldn't quite figure it out. Get back on the road, he tries to impress me with a stock stereo...ok, whatever dude...Goes on and on about what a smooth ride it is, which, let's face it..it's a Jeep. It's no luxury ride. Then how much power it has....I counter with, "Yeah, but the 4.0 had alot of torque to it...this 3.8 has more hp, yes, and you can wind it out further, but it's not going to be as trail-capable as the old TJ's or YJ's." He was silent for a minute, then, once again, "LIFETIME POWERTRAIN WARRANTY!!"...Ok, dude, I f*cking get it. Get back to the dealership, he pulls his slimy sales manager in, who wants to appraise the Pathy 'cause he wants to sell something this week, and I tell him no, my debt situation is not to the point where I am willing to start negotiating, and he comes back with, "So, what you just came here to drive a car?" Yeah, actually, that's exactly what I did. What of it? In the end, I got a business card (you know the guy just started, or isn't expected to last long when he has to hand-write his name on the card..) and a brochure, and the sales manager asks why I'd trade the Pathfinder....getting up there in miles, not completely the car of my dreams, lack of aftermarket support, oversights on Nissan's part with the VQ35 engine...And here comes Dipsh*t again with, "You know, if you bought a Jeep you won't have to worry about that because we have LIFETIME POWERTRAIN WARRANTY!!!". I hate military towns...they think everyone coming in just graduated boot camp and has no handle on their finances and they can walk all over you...I actually considered selling cars here, too....glad I didn't, or I'd have to stick my d!ck in the oven every night just to forget for a while about what a douche I was...

[MandTPhotography]

Welcome to Jacksonville, they are all retarded up there...

They'll do anything to *screw anyone in the Marines.

I'm about an hour away in Wilmington.

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[longhornsqx4]

I test drove an SRT-4 Caliber, and when the guy realized I wasnt interested in actually buying a car THAT DAY, he was PISSED

[SnowSurfLax]

Welcome to Jacksonville, they are all retarded up there...

Hey! My parents live there!

...monkey-f*cking-a-football... MFAF

That's great! I'll have to remember that one.

[SixGuns]

Yeah, they did the same thing in San Diego to anyone in the Navy (that's why I would never tell anyone what I did until I got into finance and always went on a weekend with a light goatee if I was looking to buy)...Fortunately, I don't live in Jacksonville proper..I live in Hubert, right next to Swansboro...only 12 miles away, but at least I'm not RIGHT next to the base.....wait, yes I am. I hear tank maneuvers all freaking night long, with full-on artillery training, .50 cals, and 40mm grenade launchers...pretty sad that I can identify each of them just from hearing the shots..lol Wilmington's nice...drove through there when we moved here and a couple of weeks ago to buy a hi lift off a guy...a little far to just mess around, though. But if I do wind up buying a new car here (I won't) it'll be in New Bern or somewhere further away...but my reasons for NOT buying a car here...1) resale sucks...when the wife and I move back to California, I won't get d!ck for it 'cause it's an east-coast car, verifiable by the VIN...and you get jyped on trade in and 2) the Jeep I was looking at already had rust on the front axle and on the engine pulleys...and it was an '08. That's lame. My '04 doesn't have a spot of rust on it and this thing is brand new. Nope, not gonna happen. I might buy an '83 C10 shortbed for a mud truck, though...always liked those.

[MandTPhotography]

My grandmother lives in Hubert too, actually, hah.

If you ever get a chance to come down to Wilmington, swing by National Speed and come check out the shop.

=]

[SixGuns]

Sweet, definately, man....maybe you can hook me up on a supercharger for a 4.0 Tacoma....? lol..Ah, the many desires of the wife..some chicks want flowers or girly movies...mine wants loud exhaust and a ratchet shifter...lmao

[TJcars2]

Just a question, are you like, not supposed to test drive a car unless you're interested in buying it?

[SixGuns]

How are you supposed to determine if you're interested in buying it if you don't drive it? I'm not the kind of person who will just look at a vehicle and make a decision on if I would want to own it or not. Some cars looks great and drive like sh*t...which the new Jeeps are pretty decent when it comes to ride quality..far sight better than the old bumpy CJ's...but that's what makes it a Jeep...but the visual aspect of it, and the crappy stock front axle would keep me from buying it..I wouldn't buy a car that I will drop money into right off just to make it perform like I think a "jeep" should. But that's what the dealership is there for...to convince you to buy the car. They're called "sales"men for a reason. And they didn't do their job. Then again, that's just how people are here....I've dealt with some really cool salesmen...just not these guys. Had the Jeep been more appealing and come with the equipment I wanted, I would probably be buying one in the near future. But not from that dealership.

[razzlerdazzle08]

What dose a guy at a Jeep dealership have any business talking about the Nissan 3.5 for. I am the only person in my family that drives import so yes I do respect domestics highly but you should have asked him what engine has been on wards list for 14 years now....

[Buzzman]

After reading about your experience, and also hearing and reading about many more similar stories from domestic car dealerships, it's no wonder the big three are in the trouble they are. They still don't get it do they? It's like these salesmen are caught in an '80's time warp, and that the tactics that worked 20 years ago will still work today. I bought my first Nissan 6 years ago, mostly because of the dealership.They were so much better and easier to deal with than any of the big 3 dealerships in my city. No pressure, very knowledgeable, and totally up front. It was refreshing.I've bought 4 cars from these guys in total, and each experience was positive.