why do they call it the VG30e

[pcbootleger]

I have been curious as to why they call it the VG30e. I know the 30 is for the 3.0L engine. Is the VGsuppose to represent V6? and what is the e for?

[miteymax86]

V- for engine configurationG-no idea, just internal engine family designation I thinkE=SOHC

[nlzmo400r]

V- for engine configurationG-no idea, just internal engine family designation I thinkE=SOHC

i dont think the V is for the engine configuration (although im no expert) but waht about my QR25de? how is a Q a configuration, or the RB, what is R?, i *think* the vg is just the engine famiy, just like RB, SR, QR , so on and so forth, the 3o is obviously for the 3.o liters of displacement and the E is for single over head cam, as already mentioned

[miteymax86]

Yeah, but VQ and VE for the different sixes, and the VH for the eighter leads me to believe that the V actually is significant in this case

[nlzmo400r]

well i personally think its just for names sake, but of course i could be wrong, so unless someone has some kind of nissan engine code site, or book of some kind, we'll forever ponder over this

[McAdam]

actually, if you wanna get technical....

VG is the engine family.30 is for the displacement E is for Electronic fuel injection.

there is no notation for SOHC, its just assumed. there is notation only for DOHC, as in VG30DE. the only special case would be the FJ20ET and FJ20E, where they were nissans first DOHC motors and the only ones (to my knowledge) that did not get the D notation. also, if you see VQ30DD, one D is for DOHC and the other is for Direct Injection.

McAdam

[EZcheese15]

actually, if you wanna get technical....

VG is the engine family.30 is for the displacement E is for Electronic fuel injection.

there is no notation for SOHC, its just assumed. there is notation only for DOHC, as in VG30DE. the only special case would be the FJ20ET and FJ20E, where they were nissans first DOHC motors and the only ones (to my knowledge) that did not get the D notation. also, if you see VQ30DD, one D is for DOHC and the other is for Direct Injection.

McAdam

Woohoo, I'm glad somebody answered it correctly, I felt like I was gonna have to bring out the whippin stick for the other responses.

Oh, and actually, E is for electronic MULTIport fuel injection. As opposed to throttle body injection, which is denoted with an "I." Because you can have Electronic throttle body fuel injection, which would be electronic, and fuel injection, but an I. But close enough

[McAdam]

dammit! I knew I goofed, I knew that. I've owned a GA16I in my 89 sentra before. oh well. this forum is kind of dead. I'd love so know some more info about the VE30DE motors from teh 92 to 94 maxima SE's.

McAdam

[93semax]

dammit! I'd love so know some more info about the VE30DE motors from teh 92 to 94 maxima SE's.

McAdam

What do ya wanna know?

Here's an interesting bit: The VE30DE ECU pinout is 99% the same as the RB25DET.

[nlzmo400r]

see learn somethin new everyday, i see ur changed around your sig and avatar torry, looks so different

[EZcheese15]

see learn somethin new everyday, i see ur changed around your sig and avatar torry, looks so different

Sig is the same....avatar is fairly new though

[nlzmo400r]

well ive been gone for a week, so its the first time ive noticed, it looks like cheese with wheels, nice touch, although ive always liked jezter sig's, his pics always look great

[EZcheese15]

well ive been gone for a week, so its the first time ive noticed, it looks like cheese with wheels, nice touch, although ive always liked jezter sig's, his pics always look great

Yeah, I think my avatar is a pine wood derby car made to look like cheese. I figured it fit me well

[nlzmo400r]

haha, it does fit very well, but i always liked the back of that drag r33

[McAdam]

hey 93 maxse>>> some questions for ya about the VE30DE....

any idea how much HP this motor can hold in turbo applications? can it be converted to RWD? do VG30E parts interchange? such as transmissions, mounts stuff like that?? time for a very perverted 240sx swap......

McADam

[93semax]

hey 93 maxse>>> some questions for ya about the VE30DE....

any idea how much HP this motor can hold in turbo applications? can it be converted to RWD? do VG30E parts interchange? such as transmissions, mounts stuff like that?? time for a very perverted 240sx swap......

McADam

Not many have done turbo setups on a VE. There are no dyno figures sadly.Some VQ's are pushing 350FWHP so it's possible the VE can do the same.VE has the same bottom end specs moreso with the vg30et than the vg30e-there are slight differences. Crank,rods and pistons from a vg30et will fit. But the head CC must be different from the VE so compression may change. I tried to get lower compression pistons from JE,Wiseco,etc...none of them knew what a VE30DE was. The FSM doesn't supply enough information to give them.As for a transmission, I never heard of someone installing a rwd transmission on the VE. But, The VE transmission will fit the FWD VG30E, The RWD VG30ET transmission will also fit the VG30E. That should mean they all are interchangable. Mounts are different from the FWD vg30e, but they bolt to the same location.

[nlzmo400r]

well then if you're info is correct it doesnt sound like itd be TOO insanely hard, but keep in mind, the vq has .5 liters over the ve, so a 35ofwhp vq will be easier to attain than with a ve, however with the right knowlege and money, anything is possible, what kind of power are u looking for out of the 3.o 24o, wait wouldnt that make it a 3ooSX?

[93semax]

well then if you're info is correct it doesnt sound like itd be TOO insanely hard, but keep in mind, the vq has .5 liters over the ve, so a 35ofwhp vq will be easier to attain than with a ve,

I ment to compare it to the VQ30DE, not VQ35DE as the vast majority of turbo VQ's are 3 liters. Actually I don't know of any turbo Maxima Vq35de's.

IMO an aluminum blocked VE is what the 240sx should have came with. The engine pulls all the way to the 6600 rpm limiter. 5000-6600rpm is the sweet spotEveryday it begs me to redline it

[nlzmo400r]

ok, i got a lil lost by your last post, i didnt know of any VQ3o, the only vq i know of is the 35, the older maximas had hte vg3ode correct? please correct me if im wrong, and yes i agree that the vg shouldve came in the 24o, but then you'd have a 3oozx, also, are the vg3o and ve3o not the same motor, i never heard of a ve3o before

[93semax]

ok, i got a lil lost by your last post, i didnt know of any VQ3o, the only vq i know of is the 35, the older maximas had hte vg3ode correct? please correct me if im wrong, and yes i agree that the vg shouldve came in the 24o, but then you'd have a 3oozx, also, are the vg3o and ve3o not the same motor, i never heard of a ve3o before

Maxima engines:2nd gen and 3rd gen GXE:VG30E Single Cam, distributor ignition

3rd gen SE 1992-1994:VE30DE Twin Cam, Direct ignition, VVT 190HP, 190TQ

4th gen:VQ30DE 5th gen:2000,2001 VQ30DE2002,2003 VQ35DE

[nlzmo400r]

hey, thanks a lot, perfectly clear now, thanks a lot brok, so the vq3o was the one with the 222hp and 0 cars like it commercial, gotcha

[McAdam]

I am looking for HP numbers in or around 350-ish. I know I can do that with a SR20 or a KAT or a RB, but the TORQUE is what Im looking at. also, I like the VE because of a TIMING CHAIN and not a belt. single turbo up front. should befun. I wonder if the manifold will fit under a 240sx hood???

McAdam

[nlzmo400r]

hell even if it doesnt fit, itd make a cool cut out hoodscoop thing

[pcbootleger]

found these cool sites: http://www.freshalloy.com/site...shtml

http://216.239.53.104/search?q...UTF-8

that should explain all the nissan engines. still lacks some info but still good none the less

if you can find a better site with all of nissans engines with ALL of the needed info, please let me know. I would really be interested. Or if someone could make a site that would freaking rule.

[93semax]

q=cache:CcVWiOd4yeIJ:http://www.usedenginesplus.com/Nissan/nissan

Maxima engines are listed incorrectly on that site.

[EZcheese15]

found these cool sites: http://www.freshalloy.com/site...shtml

http://216.239.53.104/search?q=cache:Cc ... om...UTF-8

that should explain all the nissan engines. still lacks some info but still good none the less

if you can find a better site with all of nissans engines with ALL of the needed info, please let me know. I would really be interested. Or if someone could make a site that would freaking rule.

I have a spreadsheet I compiled a few months ago that has nearly every nissan model ever made, the engine code, chassis code, and breakdown of the engine code. Email me if you would like a copy. Just please do not take credit for it by posting it on the net. I will eventually post it on NICO as soon as we get our site finished with the modifications that are going into effect. (within a couple weeks)

[VimyJ]

Here is another list of Datsun/Nissan engines:

http://www.geocities.com/Motor....html

[nlzmo400r]

thats one hell of a list, thanks vimyJ

[pcbootleger]

sweet list. but they got a lot of the horsepower wrong for most cars. even the ones that are under 273. I know for a fact that my car only has 160 hp and the turbo model only comes with 200. so is like Prince before datsun or something? Or was this like an old version of infiniti?

[VimyJ]

sweet list. but they got a lot of the horsepower wrong for most cars. even the ones that are under 273. I know for a fact that my car only has 160 hp and the turbo model only comes with 200. so is like Prince before datsun or something? Or was this like an old version of infiniti?

That list is for Nissans engines in the Asian market. There might be differences in the way the hp was calculated. I know that in some markets the power is reported in kilowatts and the conversion to hp might affect the numbers.

Prince looks like an engine supplier from the early days of Datsun. Infiniti does not exist as a nameplate in Asia. That is strictly a N. American thing. In fact, owners tricking out their Nissans in Japan import "Infiniti" badges from Canada and the US to replace the Nissan ones.