Why do teachers care if you attend?

[sbird1]

Class attendance blows. I should be able to skip my MIS class whenever I want, but we can only miss 4 days before we fail the class.

[PoorManQ45]

To the OP - I am curious as to what your GF's stand was on this argument?

Her stance is that it's the policy, so that's the way it should be.

She's not the type to think about why the rules exist. She simply says, "This is the rule. I will follow the rule"

Thank you for the grammatical corrections

[PoorManQ45]

Because its effing disrespectful to no-show on a class all the time. Your teacher would probably like to be somewhere else too, but you know what? He/she is there and dammit you should be too.

The teacher gets paid to be there. You pay to be there.

See the difference?

[Razi]

Isn't the topic , why do professors care you attend, not whether or not this policy should be carried on?

What's the matter that you can pass a class without attending have to do with anything then?

You're going off on a tangent imo.

[PoorManQ45]

Isn't the topic , why do professors care you attend, not whether or not this policy should be carried on?

What's the matter that you can pass a class without attending have to do with anything then?

You're going off on a tangent imo.

Indeed.

So then, if I pay for a class what does it matter if I go or not?

Schools also have another system in place to try to keep their failure rate low. If you don't attend the class for X days you are automatically dropped with no refund! Thoughts on that? That one really pisses me off. If I pay for something it is my right to use it or not. How can they take what I purchased away from me without a refund?

[Razi]

Go ask your dean, I don't know the policies of your school.

[PoorManQ45]

Wow, great answer...

This is a discussion of the policy that exists. This is a discussion of why the policy exists.

[Jesda]

You got several clear answers. I'm not sure what else you're looking for.

[Bubba1]

Wow, great answer...

This is a discussion of the policy that exists. This is a discussion of why the policy exists.

PMQ, what college do you attend that permits this kind of behavior?

[Razi]

This is a discussion of the policy that exists. This is a discussion of why the policy exists.

What?

Anyways, If you don't know their reasoning for it, go ask them.It's not that hard.

[Silvia-Tom]

I think you can argue from both points of view:

1. Yes, the professor gets paid for his/her time teaching, no matter if there are 300 students or not a single one. The paycheck comes every month so basically it doesn't matter. In this case the teacher won't offer any help after class to students who didn't attend it though. So actually the professor could care less if students are attending his class or not.

2. And yes, it is disrespectful not to attend class as a student because the professor spent time preparing his/her class and you don't even show up. Besides that you have to learn it anyways, so you can either pay attention in class and spend your free time after school OR sleep in and start studying the hard way during the night when you're friends are partying.

Here in America the teachers/professors usually take attendance, but when I used to live back in Germany nobody ever gave a damn if you were there or not. The written semester test was the only thing that mattered and if you were smart enough to hang out at home and then come just for the test to score an A it was fine. One of my best friends went to our physics class once, on the first day of school, so the teacher knew he was there and didn't show up ever again. On test day he came, took the test, got a 93% and the semester was over.

[PoorManQ45]

Anyways, If you don't know their reasoning for it, go ask them.It's not that hard.

I have. They don't give you a clear answer. Simply stated they say, "That's the way it is, deal with it"

[AZhitman]

You got several clear answers. I'm not sure what else you're looking for.

He's desperately looking for someone to validate his spoiled and contorted worldview that he's:

1) an intellectual

2) smarter than "the regular students"

3) a rebel

Most of us kept our navel-gazing and random wonderings to ourselves during those formidable years when we're figuring out how the world works... Brien just chooses to subject the rest of us to his mental fapping.

p.s. If you were REALLY that smart, you'd have CLEP tested out of several classes. Saved me a lot of money (and time).

[PoorManQ45]

Here in America the teachers/professors usually take attendance, but when I used to live back in Germany nobody ever gave a damn if you were there or not. The written semester test was the only thing that mattered and if you were smart enough to hang out at home and then come just for the test to score an A it was fine. One of my best friends went to our physics class once, on the first day of school, so the teacher knew he was there and didn't show up ever again. On test day he came, took the test, got a 93% and the semester was over.

See, that just makes sense to me.

The tests are there to ensure that you have retained certain information. You don't actually have to go to class to get that information. So what's the point in punishing someone for being able to learn on their own?

I know that at most community colleges(I believe universities too) you can test out of certain classes. You take a knowledge assessment to get credit for the class if you meet the passing requirement. Unfortunately this is not offered for most classes.

IIRC the price to test out was within $100 per course usually. If you fail I believe you have to take the course. You can't test out of that course again.

[AZhitman]

Why do teachers care if you attend?

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps they don't?

Is there a possibility that you have misattributed their efforts to fit your narrow and immature perceptions?

Maybe there's not a single teacher in America who gives a damn if you attend class or not, but because you see them taking attendance, you ASSUME that they care.

Read your thread title again.

See, they may just be adhering to policy. They may get a bonus for perfect attendance. There might be an informal "pool" among the professors to see who can have the fewest absences.

Aside from proving that you can't spell, you just proved that you don't think critically, and that you don't process various possibilities and viewpoints - You just spout whatever pops into your head.... which is why you should probably be IN class.

[PoorManQ45]

He's desperately looking for someone to validate his spoiled and contorted worldview that he's:

1) an intellectual

2) smarter than "the regular students"

3) a rebel

So then, asking why something exists and then stating my viewpoint means that I'm trying to prove a point?

Thanks Greg...

You have successfully lumped everyone in to one stereotype...

[PoorManQ45]

Maybe there's not a single teacher in America who gives a damn if you attend class or not, but because you see them taking attendance, you ASSUME that they care.

Um... Maybe because I have had multiple points deducted from my grades in multiple classes for attendance I know this exists... The deductions were explained by the teacher.

The policy is laid out right up front in most classes. For every class missed it's usually a 2 point deduction in our final grade.

[Silvia-Tom]

...in to...

into

And I'm Czech

[seang]

She's not the type to think

I am the type of person that

Unique?

[AZhitman]

Um... Maybe because I have had multiple points deducted from my grades in multiple classes for attendance I know this exists... The deductions were explained by the teacher.

The policy is laid out right up front in most classes. For every class missed it's usually a 2 point deduction in our final grade.

You really are making me suspect you're quite dull, since you completely missed my point and continued to argue your flawed assumption.

I never questioned whether such a policy exists.

Here, read this exchange again.

Why do teachers care if you attend?

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps they don't?

Is there a possibility that you have misattributed their efforts to fit your narrow and immature perceptions?

Maybe there's not a single teacher in America who gives a damn if you attend class or not, but because you see them taking attendance, you ASSUME that they care.

Maybe they DON'T care if you attend or not. I'd bet some of them PRAY you don't come to class. You ASSUME that because they take attendance, that they care if you attend or not.

I don't know how much clearer I can be....

[nissangirl74]

Um... Maybe because I have had multiple points deducted from my grades in multiple classes for attendance I know this exists... The deductions were explained by the teacher.

The policy is laid out right up front in most classes. For every class missed it's usually a 2 point deduction in our final grade.

Why in the hell would you lay out of class KNOWING that you are sabotaging your final grade?

[PoorManQ45]

Maybe they DON'T care if you attend or not. I'd bet some of them PRAY you don't come to class. You ASSUME that because they take attendance, that they care if you attend or not.

I don't know how much clearer I can be....

Still no quite clear. You are beating around the bush.

I think what you are trying to say is that the teacher does not care if you attend class, but they are doing their job and recording attendance for the school. This information is in turn provided to the school who then makes deductions to grades.

[PoorManQ45]

Why in the hell would you lay out of class KNOWING that you are sabotaging your final grade?

As Greg said, I'm a "rebel"!

LOL. Sometimes I miss classes. If I know it affects my grade i don't skip them on purpose. Most teachers had a policy that if you're late, don't come at all.

Maybe I was spoiled by my Physics professor. I had 6 courses with him and he didn't care. He said on the first day of class, "I don't care if you attend class. It is your grade, do with it what you will"

[nissangirl74]

Still no quite clear.

F*** college. You need Hooked on Phonics!

[PoorManQ45]

into

And I'm Czech

"One of the main uses of the preposition into is to indicate movement toward theinside of a place."

into vs in to are often times misused..

[PoorManQ45]

f*** college. You need Hooked on Phonics!

Ugh... I'm here at work typing in my spare time. Sorry if I miss a key.

I know you like to play grammar police...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9_kahA_wQo

[nissangirl74]

It's OK dude, I'm just giving you s***!

[Bubba1]

The topic of discussion: Why do professors in Colleges and Universities decrease your grade if you do not attend class?

The policy is laid out right up front in most classes. For every class missed it's usually a 2 point deduction in our final grade.

Looks like you just answered your own question. POLICY. That professor expects you to attend his class. If you decide to blow it off a few times with that policy in place, the consequences are 100% your fault. It's irrelevant whether you think the policy is fair or unfair. The reality is as a student, if that policy is there, you either abide by it or accept the consequences. Whining about it is a waste of time..

And blowing off classes with that requirement is not being a rebel, it's being a fool.

[zerepdivad]

Most times i imagine the teachers don't care. But then there's always a few that harass regardless how good you're doing in the class. Most classes i have had in the past penalize you for missing class. I don't agree with it but they've got their rules for a reason.

[Dattebayo]

I submit this thread for one of the "socially awkward questions" that you asked me to show you a while ago, Brien.

Professors aren't like county school teachers, they had to work damn hard to get to the position they are in and had to achieve more than an average person in their field to get recognized.

This means they have egos that can't be pushed aside. If you don't like it, then You go out and get something done noteworthy.