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Everyday I spend an extra 10 min looking for the perfect parking space because of jackasses that don't know how to park. If I get a space, and the person has a war zone bumper, I look for another spot no matter what. Preferably somewhere that someone can only park in front or behind...but even that doesn't always work with determined asses. Why when people park they don't use common sense with the distance they park away from other cars?
I remember a few days ago I parked leaving a good 3ft in front of me and maybe 18ft behind me. This guy comes with an SUV and pulls up 1 foot behind me. I had to jump out and say dude, you have all this space, why are you on my a**...I had it! Now what happens when someone with one of those toy cars squeezes in like a fat chick in tight jeans...just because they can...this guy is going to scrape off my bumper. Use the damn space, if a car can't comfortably take the space behind or in front of you, take up the whole damn spot is what I say. It makes me sick watching people play bumper cars in order to park. I've always been taught if you can't judge the distance, GET OUT THE DAMN CAR AND LOOK! Don't back up and go forward until you hit something in order to park.
I remember I went down in manhattan one day, and I came back and saw this guy literally on my front bumper because a fire hydrant was there...AND HE WAS STILL WITHIN 8ft OF THE HYDRANT. I'm thinking, you want to ruin my bumper and you'll still end up getting a ticket!? Sooooo, I flattened three of his tires and left a nice note for him (I didn't do 4 because then some insurance would pay for it from what I'm told).
Anyway, the following pic is the cause of my rant this morning. I went to visit someone and watched this VW park and I said, there goes another one.
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What happens when someone squeezes that jeep in from the back?
Why people?!?!


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I agree there are so many idiots that can't parallel park to save themselves that the issue isn't if someone's gonna scrape your car but when. But as far as why they cram their cars into NYC spots and unnecessarily pinch the car parked in front of them for space, it's the same reason why they drive like lunatics. They're time obsessed, plus the cost to use a garage is outrageous. Of course the right thing to do is to leave space for the car on either side to maneuver, but that takes extra time, so fuggedaboudit. It ain't happening. That's also why when the light turns yellow, non-NY'ers will hit their brakes while New Yawkers accelerate around them and thru the intersection flipping the bird and honking at the braker for getting in the way. Unfortunately that time craziness is one of the reasons folks from the Midwest think NYC drivers are so crazy.

I almost always take the train/subways when venturing into Manhattan. On the rare times I do drive into Manhattan, I use a vehicle I don't worry if it gets scratched by an idiot. But the bigger question is why on earth drive a car into Manhattan in the first place.

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TDot wrote:Sooooo, I flattened three of his tires and left a nice note for him
just wow :tisk:

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numbnuts240 wrote:
TDot wrote:Sooooo, I flattened three of his tires and left a nice note for him
just wow :tisk:
Agreed. Uncool..

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Judging parking by just a quick look is stupid as well. Different cars are different lengths, you don't know the whole story like if a truck pulled out and a mini cooper pulled in where it was after, etc. Flattening tires just makes you a moron.

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Dattebayo wrote:Judging parking by just a quick look is stupid as well. Different cars are different lengths, you don't know the whole story like if a truck pulled out and a mini cooper pulled in where it was after, etc. Flattening tires just makes you a moron.
Exactly

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Of course there is usually a story. Lack of reading comprehension makes you a moron. As you see I sighted very specific incidents that pushed me over the edge where I KNEW "the story", and my general issue is people parking too close to begin with, not the story of judging distances in front and back of cars. You sound like one of these people.

I make no apologies for flattening that persons tires. You are not going to park on my bumper to the point where you shifted my plates down in order to try to escape a hydrant ticket that you are still obviously in violation of because you're too lazy or cheap to find a proper spot. I can only imagine how many other people they did it to. Bet you they'll think twice now. Painting panels in NY average $350. Forget that, I've never done it before but I would do it again in a hot second under the same circumstances.

During the week I'd never drive in to manhattan, but Sunday nights there is plenty of parking little to no traffic. At most you'd have to walk a block and a half to two blocks from wherever you want to go.

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I have little doubt you felt you saw the whole "story" and felt victimized by the insensitivity of the other driver. But that does not give you the right to become a vigilante to hand out punishment. Vandalism is a crime.

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Not everyone is a good driver. Not everyone is good at judging spatial distances from inside the car.

Would you want people judging you this harshly and damaging your stuff for the things you are not good at?

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Since you appear persistent to punish parking putz's, perhaps this link might be a better plan... ;)

http://www.youparklikeanasshole.com/giv ... notice.php

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TDot wrote:Lack of reading comprehension makes you a moron.
Good thing I read the whole post already and understood it before I posted. Just because you think you have the whole story doesn't mean you understand all the reasons people do things! You seem to live in a world where you believe people should be perfect all the time somehow; that they're all sane and logical minded all the time. Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's crazy out there and even you will eff up at least once sometime soon. And your little display of vigilantism won't help a damn thing because all you're doing is jerking off in public.

I'm with Bubba here, if you feel like you need to let someone have it, do it in a constructive way like those cards and save the destruction of property for your own sh*t.

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I'll leave notes on people's cars if they park bad, but I am not going to deflate their tires. You never know, the person could have a kid at home with cancer and he/she gets a phone call their kid is going to the hospital again. Oh, flat tires...

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The big point is, slashing someone's tires teaches them nothing. They come out and think "Some ***hole slashed my tires." They won't come out and think "I deserve this cause I parked badly." Odds are if they are parking that poorly, they don't realize how bad they are at it. At least leaving them an angry note communicates that there was a problem.

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I agree with the moderation response, despite at times feeling the desire for vengeance. I've been keyed severely by someone who thought I was too close to their driveway. I know this, because they accompanied the damage with a note. I admit, I was close, but I was legal. Just a note would have sufficed, because I try very, very hard to respect the space of other cars and driveways.

That said, there are idiots out there. Rude jerks that have used my bumpers to find out if they fit in a space. And blocked my driveway because they can't be bothered to walk a little bit to find a bona fide space.

And the absolute worst are the pinheads that park in a handicapped space an run their 20-something body to wherever it is they are going because they are lazy and deserve a debilitating illness so that they earn the right to park in such spaces.

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This is why I love living in the suburbs where parking is free, plentiful, and NOT PARALLEL.

That said, I tried parking a Lexus LX470 in a fairly short space today and failed so I had to go across the street.

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Jesda wrote:This is why I love living in the suburbs where parking is free, plentiful, and NOT PARALLEL.
:werd:

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After living in Chicago where parallel parking is a necessary skill I love living in Tennessee. Drivers where I live now will pass over great spots that they have to back into and instead park farther away because of double & triple stacked spots that they can pull forward into.

Plus, when you're bored and have some extra time it makes for great comedy watching the unskilled try to parallel park. :yesnod

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Bubba1 wrote:But that does not give you the right to become a vigilante to hand out punishment. Vandalism is a crime.
Please, many things are crimes, and many things are done anyway. Transgressions against me give me every right to hand out whatever justice I see fit at the time.
OriginalWheelman wrote:Not everyone is a good driver. Not everyone is good at judging spatial distances from inside the car.
Would you want people judging you this harshly and damaging your stuff for the things you are not good at?
This has nothing to do with being a good driver, or being good at anything. It's courtecy and common sense. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to judge distance, you have to have eyes. You don't need to have great spatial acuity to know if you are touching another car, they can't move. I also have a cargo van with no back windows. I have never touched someone's bumper yet. When I see a spot that I'm not sure about, I get out, look at the space in front of me, then look at the space in front of that person. Then I look at the space behind me, then behind that person. If there isn't space all around, I find another spot...period. I can't judge the distance inside, I get out to judge, simple. Nobody is forcing them to stay in the car and judge the distance. Nobody can make the excuse that they didn't know how close they were, that's just unacceptable.
Bubba1 wrote:Since you appear persistent to punish parking putz's, perhaps this link might be a better plan... ;)
Lol, amusing.
Looneybomber wrote:You never know, the person could have a kid at home with cancer and he/she gets a phone call their kid is going to the hospital again. Oh, flat tires...
That would be a shame. And I could have a kid at home going to the hospital and I need to get home. Oh, I'm trapped... The difference, I'm trapped because of their action, their flat because of their action.
OriginalWheelman wrote:The big point is, slashing someone's tires teaches them nothing. They come out and think "Some ***hole slashed my tires" They won't come out and think "I deserve this cause I parked badly." Odds are if they are parking that poorly, they don't realize how bad they are at it. At least leaving them an angry note communicates that there was a problem.
I guess you didn't read the op either, because I stated that I did leave them a letter for this exact reason. As long as they know why this ***hole slashed their tires, they may think twice before they cause another ***hole to slash their tires again.
amerjap wrote:I've been keyed severely by someone who thought I was too close to their driveway. I know this, because they accompanied the damage with a note. I admit, I was close, but I was legal.
Yeah, that's cold. I wouldn't go that far. But I bet...not that I agree at all with what they did...that you think twice about doing that again even if you do do it.
Jesda wrote:I tried parking a Lexus LX470 in a fairly short space today and failed so I had to go across the street.
All I have to say is thank you...as long as you didn't play bumper cars to realize you failed.
BusyBadger wrote:Plus, when you're bored and have some extra time it makes for great comedy watching the unskilled try to parallel park. :yesnod
I actually find myself doing this A LOT lately. I will be walking and see someone begin to park and just stand and watch. A few times I've yelled out, "you know you can't fit there right?" Then watch them proceed to play bumper cars as they watch me stare shaking my head. Once I even told someone if it was my car we'd have a problem now.

This idea of a stern talking to or a letter by itself is pipe dream BS, or people who believe in this live in lands made of sugar and spice. Consequence is what changes action or at least causes someone the same grief they are purposely giving. I live on a principle if someone kicks you, you cut their foot off so they won't kick you again...simple. They shouldn't have kicked you to begin with. My friend has a suped up Range with an extra 100+ hp. A couple years ago someone blocked him in his driveway on two different occasions in the evening. He wasn't going anywhere so the first time he let it ride, and the second time he said something to the person. The third time was in the morning when he had to go to work. So he backed the Range up broadside to the car and pushed it to the other side of the street. Destroyed the side of the car. My boy came home that evening confronted by the police and denied everything. He had a rear grill on the back of the truck which he took off so there was no damage to the truck. That guy got a talking to and did it again, he then received consequences and he never did it again.

Myself I used to drive without a seatbelt constantly with my girl and mother constantly nagging me, and knowing my cousin was thrown from a car. It was so bad if I was driving by a police I would wrap the belt around me and then let it go. In the span of four months I got three seat belt tickets. The talking didn't fix it, but the consequence of the cost has me buckling up everytime I get in a car now. It's sad and stupid it took tickets to have me buckle up, but it is what it is.

Practice becomes habits, habits become accepted behavior. You don't brake accepted behavior with wagging your finger.

Last week visiting the same person around the block I watched this unfold, and all I could think is dejavu, lucky it isn't me. It actually made me twice as mad watching it unfold and seeing how cavalier the person was.
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I was doing something in my car so I was there the whole time, from he parked to when he came back. He pulled up, backed up until he touched, got out and examined how far he was from the hydrant, got back in, got on his phone for 15 min (no rush), got out and examined the distance again, and slowly walked off. The other car owner arrived, honked his horn for 40 min and left irate. The original guy strolled back three hours later. There's your story.

I make no excuses for people. Accidents are one thing, willful actions are something else. No apologies, I'll be the villain or vigilante.

On your mark, get set, go! lol.

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TDot wrote: All I have to say is thank you...as long as you didn't play bumper cars to realize you failed.
I used my tow hitch ball as a feeler. :chuckle: I kid.


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