Why are JDM motors illegal?

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PalmerWMD
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Yelnatsch:

One solution for your SR20DET and fear of an inspection ticket is to have the car registered in a friendlier state.Do you have any friends/family out in the South or in other laid back states?

Inspections here are very cursory and sometimes non existent ( depending on state)My county has no emssions inspections .you do have your car get inspected when you register an out of state car, but thats an inspection for safety ( lights work etc) and a non-beater-looking car will get a "headlights working " check and thats it (I have registered 4 out of state non beater cars in last 4 years here, NEVER have I had more than a glance inspection)

And while some Cops in CA might get overzelaous and forget they dont have jusrisdiction they dont over these kind of issues if your car is registered out of state.

One guy in CA almost bought my S13 with SR all the way froim KY , cuz if he picked it up I would ahve let him rregister it here using my address.

You can also get next years tags here usually depending on teh time of year.

For example I registered my SR in March 2004 and I got the 05 tags that means I didn have to re-register until January 2006.

I liked this cuz being in the Army I would never know which kind of state I would be innext.

If someone were to register a car now who knows maybe the 06 tags are already available and you would be safe until Jan 2007.

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Also as long as I still live here ( which may not be long) I may be willing to assist in arrangements for Nico members to pull it off.

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palmer there just has to be a way without such hassiles man. I found the skyline conversion papers i can find away to make these motors legal.

Though it might take longer then the skyline papers :P

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Wing: Evebn if someon were to certify the engine it would still not be ok with DOT as the S chassis was never offered with SR in USDM.

Technically its never a legal swap (just like many countless doemstic swap for example every time someone buy an old Hemi and put it into a newer car its illegal despite the how-to procedure being featured on TV for street cars)

The thing is to be registered in a state that doesnt enforce.Anotehr state would have to respect your home states registration.

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true. Like AZ we don't have ARB laws so we can take older motors and drop them in.

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w1ngzer0 wrote:true. Like AZ we don't have ARB laws so we can take older motors and drop them in.
Wing .That means your state wont enforce.But the EPA/DOT regs (which have force of law) are federal, ie. they are in force in all states, just not always enforced.

Therefore there is no state in the union, were installing an older engine into a newer MY car is ever legal.

Just a matter of states deciding enforcement, if they inspect for it and allow you to register said car.But once its legally registered in a state, you can be in another state and they dont have jusrisdiction over declaring your set-up illegal, as each states have to respect each others actions (ie registration)

But when you re-register a car that was registered in anotehr state however, they have the right to refuse to re-registration in a state that enforces.

I hope this all made sense ( typos excluded)

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As weird as it sounds, CA is exempt from federal pollution laws, since CA adopted their own laws before the feds. Doesn't really matter though, since CA laws are typically the same or tougher than the federal ones. In fact, I think the OBDII standard was orininally a CA requirement, and all manufacturers had to step up to the plate in order to sell cars here.Registering the car elsewhere probably won't work since his address is on the license and CA has a requirement that all out-of-state vehicles be registered here within a certain time period. Otherwise we'd all do that in order to circumvent the rediculous DMV fees.

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when i lived in sacramento last year, i didn't even borther registering. I left 11 months later... lol

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Don't they import skylines and make them street legal? I don't remember who does it, way too tired to go look. But if they can do that with a whole car, how come they can't do it with some of the most popular engine swaps. I don't remember what had to be done to the skylines, I just remember they were really expensive. Motorex, that was it. Not sure what the conversion stuff they always talked about is though, it can't be that much, I mean, you are wiring the car up to work with your car so you'd think ou'd have to convert anything on the engine anyways.

About the whole leech thing from above...It's actually really true if you see some places in the south (I'm sure it happens in the north too, but I only lived out in the middle of nowhere in the south so that's the only place I saw it first hand). My high school in north carolina had a 50% drop out rate, literaly. Everybody in my middle school had htis grand idea that they'd become a famous rapper or a sports star. Though most just followed their parents footsteps and went on welfare. Plus when so many get pregnant during middle school and high school, there's not much else for them to do. You see entire communities like that, so the kids didn't see anything wrong with it, it was normal to end up on welfare with a bunch of kids. The funniest thing to me was still to see everybody in the family being incredibly skinny like their starving but the mother is huge. It's not so much the people's fault, it's just that they follow what their familier with, there's no real motivation for them to actually get out and make something of themselves. And don't give me the whole, can't afford college bull****. I'm going active duty for three years in the army and they'll pay tuition for 4 years, so then if I go to state school I can just stay in the reserves to get ilke $500 a month plus the GI bill for another like $800. Which will easily pay for everything else, and probably a part time job for extra money ontop of that.

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madbouncy wrote:About the whole leech thing from above...It's actually really true if you see some places in the south (I'm sure it happens in the north too, but I only lived out in the middle of nowhere in the south so that's the only place I saw it first hand). My high school in north carolina had a 50% drop out rate, literaly. Everybody in my middle school had htis grand idea that they'd become a famous rapper or a sports star. Though most just followed their parents footsteps and went on welfare. Plus when so many get pregnant during middle school and high school, there's not much else for them to do. You see entire communities like that, so the kids didn't see anything wrong with it, it was normal to end up on welfare with a bunch of kids. The funniest thing to me was still to see everybody in the family being incredibly skinny like their starving but the mother is huge. It's not so much the people's fault, it's just that they follow what their familier with, there's no real motivation for them to actually get out and make something of themselves. And don't give me the whole, can't afford college bull****. I'm going active duty for three years in the army and they'll pay tuition for 4 years, so then if I go to state school I can just stay in the reserves to get ilke $500 a month plus the GI bill for another like $800. Which will easily pay for everything else, and probably a part time job for extra money ontop of that.

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wow man. Good for you.

But you also have to remember everyones mind set is different. Someone like me can't do what a well trained army man can do. I can work mabie 4-5 hrs a day if i was going to school full time.

Working at a gas station didn't help my school situation. Another thing what does this have to do with...... JDM motors? lmfao.......

BTW the only reason motorex charges so much is so YOU can cover their bond. lol

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lol, motorex charges a lot because they're like the only ones that do it, bastards. I just meant that if they can make skylines legal, how come we can't make sr's legal? I mean if they allow the entire car, they should atleast make the RB series legal, plus SR20's are used in american cars just not the turboed or rwd version, so they're not that unfamilier with them.

The army isn't hard, but it's not for everybody, it was just an example, if you're really determined to go to college you'll pay for it, period. There's hundreds of ways, most of the males in my family have been thruogh the military so that was one of my first choices. But, like I said, it's not for everybody. It's nowhere near as hard as most people think though, it just depends what job you pick. You can file paper all day if you want, or you can be infantry. Obviously infantry is way harder but you'll make better money filing papers because you're around higher up people so you can get promotions quicker. I just went artillery, I wanted to go EOD (Explosive Ordinance Disposal) but I guess I'm partially colorblind so I can't do most jobs. I was looking forward to taking apart mines too. Lastly, you don't go to school as much if you're active, you really have two big chocies, you can go to college then go into the army through rotc and ocs (officer canidate school) or you can just go active duty and go to college afterwards. I think I can get like one year of college credit for every two years in the army depending on where I'm stationed, so I'll get as much as I can but it won't be much.


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