Why am I asking this...

[StealthMo]

Ok, so more than likely, I'm going to hear a hundred "GET ANOTHER 240!!!" calls but I'll ask here anyways. First of all, I don't want, "Get a 240 because it's better!" I want solid factual reasons or legitimate opinions (back it up somehow? "I like my 240 because you can actually put a small person in the backseat. My friend's stealth's backseat was pretty much non existant")

With that disclaimer above in mind :Next summer I'm selling my SOHC stealth. Hoping, after savings + money from the stealth, to have about 10 grand. For that money I can buy another 240SX or......a Stealth R/T TT.

Now you guys know about the 240, so I don't really need to reiterate stats for ya...but I will give a few for the stealth.

Here are the main pros I see to the TT

1) AWD2) DCC (Digital Climate Control! gawk!)3) Dual Power Leather Seats4) ~320HP stock5) It's a freakin' TT stealth. Personally I like the cosmetics of my stealth better than I liked my old 240...6) The aftermarket is FINALLY starting to show up.

Here are the main Cons :

1) It's got 2 turbos! (bet you thought that was a pro, huh?) well as much as I love turbos, they're more maintanence, and this will be a used car with ~70k miles, those turbos won't last forever!2) 2nd gen stealths have the damn getrag transmission that's a serious pain in the a**, although I heard recently mitsubishi ordered a recall on the getrag 6speeds! (only took like 8 years!)3) It does kinda weigh over 1000lb more than a 240!4) A sound sytem (that includes subs) is very difficult to design in a stealth/3000gt, the hatch area is TINY!5) The backseat exists to reduce insurance, as opposed to transport people of ANY size.6) Can you say INSURANCE? I'm 18, I'll be 19-20 when I pick up the next car, insurance will still be incredible for a college student.

Ok folks, time to tell me why I should buy a 240sx :-p

PS : I loved my 240, even though it was a POS, and I still think it had to have been about as fast as my SOHC stealth...now mind you my 240 was so far out of time I had to play some real games to keep it from stalling. And it was an automatic.

[rbboyl]

Well, it seems like you have to decide by weighing in what you're needs are at the moment. Of course everyone wants a faster car or better performing car but not everyone will get one because its not practical. If I didnt have to worry about money, reliability and such, I would have gotten a better performing car. I'd love to drive around a 12 second car all day, but the thing is, I can't afford it and its just not practical.

But with 10 grand you have a lot more options than I do. I'm a college student as well. I'm sure performance wise, get the stealth hands down. But get the 240 because: if you get a newer one, it will be less costly to maintain, have less problems, bullet proof engine and transmission (unless you REALLY kick the crap out of it), lower insurance, and its still a head turner and a good performer (RWD, decent power). With 10 grand, you could easily afford an S14.

Get the stealth because...you want to burn most cars on the road and leave them in the dust.

[redrocket]

Dude I will be happy to tell you if you want a new car that bad stick with a 240 this is the only car that I found after owning my stealth R/T TT that was fun to drive the stealth was funny but just too heavy for me plus I sank much deniero in my stealth 8500 in transmission work alone and the car only had 57K miles on it

90-93 have 300 hp because the 9b's are at 9.5 psi94-99 have 320 hp because the 9b's are at 11.5 psi

but if you do decide to get one go to http://www.dynamicracing.com for parts really great guy and helpful

Robbie

[Spectre]

Hmm...Consider this: Knowing the stealth's reliability, can you afford to keep it? It's as simple as that man. If you really think that you can afford the upkeep, insurance, and any possible repairs then go for it. Just be sure that you consider all of the costs that will be incurred.

[Daunttless]

With 10,000 dollars you can have a 300rwhp horsepower SR20, thats more reliable, in a less expensive car, with less expensive insurance, and still have enough money left over for suspension work. If you have the hookup, you may even be able to have a body kit and nice, new paintjob so that you get more enjoyment out of the aesthetic beauty of the car.

The 240 is lighter, as you said, the AWD will just slow you down, and while you can hit 12s with the Stealth, its going to cost a ton to go any further as its a very difficult engine to work on. You also have the reliability issue, the insurance issue, and the visibility issue. I don't know about you, but who do you think a cop looks at more, a 3000GT or a smooth, subtle 240SX. : ) Plus, you know you'll have been the only one to abuse the SR20 engine, as the Japanese don't bang them up to bad. : )

Of course, with 10,000 dollars I"d probably buy a 3rd Gen RX-7. : ) Or I'd save another 10,000 and buy a skyline. : )

[pancito]

Depending on your needs, if you like working with cars and doing everything your self, get a base cheaper car, and mod it to where you like it (performance and looks wise) but if you just want a decent daily driver to keep stock (or mostly stock (just BPU) then just get something more practical.

test drive a few cars, borrow your friends cars if you can. and make a choice then, don't get the bargain of the month, or let pass so many details just because it has the engine you want..just don't be an impulsive buyer

[Bubba]

Depends what you want, afford or willing to spend. I'm not going to bash the TT. It's not a bad car. Sure it's faster than a 240sx, and it's turbocharged. But a 240sx is more reliable, cheaper to maintain, cheaper to insure, cheaper to buy, better gas mileage, handles more nimbly, (R/T stealth is a pretty big car), more attractive (Mistubishi tends to overstyle), and more comfortable(I've driven one) than an R/T TT. Do what you want, but you're not going to get an unbiased opinion on a 240sx bb. Enjoy

[s14=pimpin']

aside from a bad passenger side ball bearing, which is a wear and tear item, my 240 has been very reliable up to date. Its easy to work on, has ok power, is very nimble in the turns, and impresses the ladies. Not to mention its has a unique look, alot of toys inside and very rare (s14).

The mitsu is faster, uglier (IMO) and heavier. Its probably alot of fun to drive and race, and I've always been a huge fan of AWD & turbo combo. Follow your heart, and purchase what will make you happy, since you have to drive the car. Its your choice, but I think you'll be very happy with the purchase of a newer 240sx (95 +), unless you want to build a beast, where a pre 95 model would be better since they are cheaper to initially buy, which leaves more money left over to tune. With 10g's, you could make an s13 almost as fast as a stealth in a straight line, and definitely beat it on an autocross course. Go test drive a couple of mitsu's and 240's, and throw a tsi talon in the mix, and you deciede. I'd also strongly suggest picking up a consumers report on the specific cars you're looking into to see how they rate on safety and reliability. The 240 is a very safe car, i am living proof, lucky to be alive today, partly because of Nissan's safety standards.

[Zebrahead]

With 10,000 dollars you can have a 300rwhp horsepower SR20, thats more reliable, in a less expensive car, with less expensive insurance, and still have enough money left over for suspension work. If you have the hookup, you may even be able to have a body kit and nice, new paintjob so that you get more enjoyment out of the aesthetic beauty of the car.

Umm, I don't think I'll agree w/ you this time Daunt. Remember, he'll have to BUY a 240 first (probably around 3-4K for a decent one), then buy the SR20 and get it installed (4-5K). That leaves very little money left.

To make the SR20 300rwhp another 3K or so.

Good suspension (another 1K), a NICE body kit + good paint job (3K).

3K+5K+3K+1K+3K = 15+K

Nick.

[Ace]

I'm with Dauntless, do an SR20DET to an S14 or get a little more money something like 13,000 and get a 3rd gen RX-7. Either one of those cars would be killer. Also those DSM motors aren't as reliable. DSM's are meant for good performance but they cross the line and sacrafice reliability, thats why you can get a 3000GT or Stealth for so cheap.

[StealthMo]

kk I'll inject a few more tidbits. First of all I'm pretty happy with how most people here are shooting pretty straight, most of the time if I see a post like this you hear, "mitsu sucks, go nissan!" etc etc...thanks guys.

See this is the problem. The odds are I'm gunna drive this car for about 2 years, and be able to maintain it. After that I'm throwing it on blocks and I'm gunna build a real beast out of it, while I drive something else around all day. At this time, if reports are good in the next year or so on the 350Z, I think I wanna pick up a 350Z as my daily driver. In that event it'd be kinda weird if I drove around a 350Z daily and working on a 240SX, if ya know what I mean.

At this point in time I'm still leaning towards the stealth. It's got one of the nicest interiors (up front) of the sports cars I've driven. I've taken it on a few trips over 10 hours and didn't get uncomfortable in any of em. What I still need to do, though, is test drive a TT model. I've driven a DOHC, and it was a kick in the pants compared to my SOHC stealth, so I'm gunna imagine the TT is gunna be a HUGE kick.

See I can't even say, "well I'll get the 240 cuz it's rare." I'll agree 240s are hella rare. When I had my 240 for a lil under a year, my friends would talk to me once a week and say they saw one...That's one per week, and it was usually the same one, lol. 3/S are also pretty rare, though. TT models are even MORE rare than the rest. If I remember on a given year, 52% of the stealths made were SOHC, 48% were DOHC, of the 48% that were DOHC, maybe 5% were TT, so of all the stealths made that year, about 2.5% were TT models. That's another rarity.

You'll have to forgive me, I had an S13 and I don't really remember all that much about the S14s. Are there options such as power leather, DCC, etc etc?

Bleh, I'm in love with two companies, do I go Mitsu or Nissan...very tough to decide.

[rbboyl]

The SE models in the S14 have all the power options (mirros, windows, 160 W stereo) but optional leather. Some have them, some don't.

[redrocket]

let me give you a little insight on driving the stealths it is just plain amazing drop the hammer in 4th gear on the interstate and that sound of the turbos spooling and the exhaust coming out sounds like a banshee screaming all the wheels are gripping and you are off like a rocket it is one of the most exahilirating feeling you'll ever feel and coming off the line dumping at like 4k or more just to keep the car from bogging off the line and flying by that f body that you just demolished oh its great it is great

GOD I MISS MY STEALTH

but if I had it to do all over again to buy another japanese super car like that it would either be a rx-7 or a supra tt of course

p.s. if you have go to http://www.3si.org they have a great board and the guys will be happy to help you in anyway with questions on the stealth or 3000gt

Robbie

[StealthMo]

Yeah, I'm a board member there, BaseMo is by name there. The guys there have been pretty cool. I'm glad I have a year to figure this out before I go ahead with anything.

[neurovish]

Since paul is out of town, I will put in a word for the 240 with a CA18det....for 10 grand, you can build a very beastly CA that will own a TT stealth

[7HE_DON]

how do you compare? =XTT and 240sx....Integra and 240 surebut I'd compare the TT more on the level of an M3 or a ImprezzaThey're completey different classes so if you wanna TT by all means but the 240sx is unique in its own way