Who would win?

[Kansei240sx]

Hey guys whats up. Im sure you have had to deal with this at one time or another, and it has probably been posted here in this forum, So sorry if it has. I have a question though.

I have a few friends in my tech class, One drives a MKIII 87 Supra Non turbo which is bone stock, and the other drives a Bone stock 99 Vtec DOHC standard model Prelude, I dont think the prelude has any type of limited slip on it though. Anyways They are always trashing my car and calling it a piece of ****. If they have not said that directly, They imply it.

This Does not make very happy, and both of them want me to race,

Who would win, Me? Or the Prelude or Supra, Even if you say i will lose ill still do it anyways. Thanks in Reply

--Kansei

[Graphfixz]

You don't mention your car at all... specs or anything, however, is it even possible for a 240 to loose? Isn't that like against the laws of nature?

[br2819]

preludes are pretty quick. i had a 5th gen and i loved it more than anything too bad i killed it.

[Kansei240sx]

Oh my god sorry guys, I thought i posted my cardomain link , My bad,

I have a 1991 240SX 5 speed

Intake with cold air wall, Hotshot Headers, 240sx super Hicas LSD, NGK Wires and platinum plugs, and maybe a Under drive pulley Sometime soon. And removing some emissions.

My car runs great, and burns no oil,

[Axel Grungy]

i think the prelude would own all of you in a straight line.

[4felix20]

yup, prelude all the way.

take him through some twisty roads though, you may have a chance.

[Twinchy]

prelude would win, Kansei in 2nd, and supra last.

[br2819]

the prelude would take you in the twistys too if you don't have any suspension work. they have awesome handling for front wheel drive

[SeVa-S13]

Wanna beat your friends for cheap? Get a quality dry/wet nitrous kit, a used ignition system and maybe an old, knob style SAFC or something. Get it all used and you're not looking at much more than $500, and you'll destroy them, and plenty of other cars utterly.I know what's going through your head right now, "WTFOMG NAWS = engine blow up!!1!!1"but even untuned, a 50 shot is fine on a good condition engine, and if you want to go higher then that, get the ignition and SAFc like I said so you can be sure of proper timing and AFR's. Also, used 370cc injectors from an SR (~$100) and $90 Walbro fuel pump coupled with the previous mods should allow you to annihilate most of your friends. And the best thing is, they don't have to know.

[frapjap]

Ya know...I'd like to get a hold of a used nitrous system for my 240. Engine is in nice shape, but I'm a little budgeted fo a turbo. Turbo=problems anyway. A 50 shot wouldn't be a bad alternative.

[zombieman]

i don't know about the rest of you, but a mk3 non turbo is quicker than a 240sx, i grew up surrounded by supras and "z's", i got a chance to work with them, and know that 7M is a bad *** motor. i know for sure the vtec preludes are slow since i have yet to come across one that spank me real bad when i had my ka24e ("24e!" not "24de!" ), but since he has 200hp with his vtec, he is going to win in the end probably by not much, but you, will however have a better launch, due to rwd and the dominating torque. but of course, you'll have to race to find out the outcome.

[yelnatsch517]

LOL sounds like the exact opposite of what everyone else is saying. Just do it and post your results.

PS. Drive safe.

[fullthrtl_tech]

my friend has the exact same car an 87 mkIII supra, wich still has the stock 7m and an lsd. I have a 93 base model with just a severly abused clutch and a short throw, and the governor removed. i whooped him in a straight line and in the corners by car lengths. Especially in the turns, i Owned him. But out of the 3 the prelude would win, but you would probably get him off the line.

[Florida240sx]

Can they drive?Because I know the prelude is faster than me, but I beat one just the other day. I think between him and the prelude it would be the jump off the line. I beat one because he didn't know how to shift and I had a very nice launch. Had one the other in front of me being an *** he took off and I passed him(it probablywas an auto). You guys don't think with his upgrades he could win if he had a nice launch(and assuming he knows how to shift)

[SMoKeM240]

my car when it was running had electric fans, intake, exhaust gutted car short throw and decent clutch keeps up with a I/H/E 98 GSR. She runs mid 15's all day at the track. Our other friend has the new prelude SH with exhaust and intake and runs the same times. the 89-92? ones are weak and slow, my other friend has a 94? with H22 I/H/E and he kicks the GSR's ***. So, id say its all in the driver

[H.D.HUMPERDINK]

You might have a chance if you can drive against the prelude. with a cold air, test pipe, short shifter, and cat-back I ran a 15.2 and i think the prelude turns something similar to that, but if you go from a roll you done for.

[Altiman94]

prelude in all races

[CybeRise]

Well It depends on the way the honduh guy races. I beat one in my way underpowered 280ZX. Twas a 95 Prelude Vtec(my friends) Since hes not the best dragger out there he spun his tires forever and a minute. I got a huge advantage off the line and once my heavy a$$ Z was moving he couldn't catch up. So it depends on how good a racer you are and how good he is.

[574-240sx]

You will get beat from a roll definitly if the prelude is auto or manual. From a stop, if you get hime off the line you won't be ahead for long. My maxima is faster than my friends stock 2000 prelude stock for stock.

[Kansei240sx]

Alright thanks guys, I think i would take the Supra, And as for the prelude i think we are going to do a 0- 70 ish race. I know i would take him off the line, And to be honest i am not sure how good of a driver he is . He raced my freind in his Sentra SE-R Spec V and they both peeled out first gear. Im thinking Rev to 4 quick slip and take off.

[SeVa-S13]

How'd he do against the B15?

[Florida240sx]

Just be safe about it. Had a friend in the hospital because of street racing and my others have numerous tickets.

[Kansei240sx]

Well my friend with the SE-R Sucks at driving plus the car had near bald tires when he first got it, He has a hot shot intake and Some nice 18 by 7.5 Enkies on it and its quite a badass Front Wheel drive car. Back to my point he got beat by two car lenghts or so. If i was driving and i had some tires to go with him, i would have whomped up on the lude, Becuase the SE-R puts better to the ground than the lude. That SE-R has awesome Torque.

[Silvia007]

When's the race? The preludes are pretty fast once they get moving but for sure you'll get him off the line. For the supra, depending on how well he took care of that car, if he did a decent job, you may be in a bit of trouble, NA KA24DE's is not fast at all, atleast mine wasn't and it was in excellent condition. Sorry to say, but your chances might be a bit slim. Regardless, you should lose, if you win, it'll be a total shame. Look at it this way, when you guys race, they had better win because all the odds are against you. Besides, the KA isn't even the 240's original engine, if you did have the SR, HAAA, they wouldn't even be able to smoke your tail pipe. I'll kill some preludes up here for ya! hahaha.

[Florida240sx]

I've had a yellow SE-R screwing with me. So far im 5-0 against him. Met him at the movie theatre and he started talking "rice" and I made some comments and then he stopped. He had 2 girls with him one nigth and well...he got embarassed. I like them even though they are FWD. Kid got suspended today for burning out in the parking lot with a SE-R. Had a nice smoke cloud, which the administrator walked through to take him to the office.

[Kansei240sx]

To my knowlegdge and first thoughts i had the part down of taking him off the line, Becuase when i was racing my freind in his se-r I totaly jacked him off the line, and was ahead two car lenghts. Then his top end smoked me, as for the prelude, it will probaly be the same as the SE-R race.

For the Supra, The car sat for 8 years..... and has some junk in it.

On the side note, the only interior my car will have is the drivers seat. I will take it all out for the race.

And the CRX si is a waste of gas to race i say. Just another pebble in the road for me. There isnt any stake of pride on the line or money or any of that, or bets. But its just us good friends in good sportsman ship out there tearin it up.

NOW! i would say. if we took it out to our local road course http://www.hallettracing.com http://www.hallettracing.com , i would smoke them ^_- I have high confidence in my driving skills and technique. So as far as the driving department i dont have any problems.

Anyway thanks for your comments, Just want to know what you guys are thinking!

Kansei---

[SeVa-S13]

Not many car guys think they're bad drivers, but taking it to a track will always let ya know.

[br2819]

don't sleep on a crx. i had my *** whooped by one when i had my prelude just straight up embarassed me. don't know what kind of engine it had because i never got a chance to see it again. also i know with a good driver thje prelude can run mid 14's but it needs a good launch. they are tough to launch because you have to launch them at a high rpm to get it in its torque band.

[drifter_for_life06]

if the prelue is infact VTEC then it should go like this

Prelud-240-Supra

however me and a friend raced a 96 'lude in his 1990 Stanza and won. the lude had an exhaust and intake and all the stanza had was a clutch at intake

[br2819]

it's a 5th gen lude so they all had the h22 in it