Who's Using The SSautochrome kit?

[240sxOwner]

Just wondering who was using it, what kind of numbers you are putting down. What turbo did you guys receive? Mine is not the same as in the pic....but the tag says t3/t04e on it. What downpipe are you guys using also. Anyone have any pics? I already have this kit, as well as 15 other parts waiting to go on...but i am going to build the KA completely. Let me know how you like it. Thabks guys

-Mark

[Projex240]

I dont have the kit, but i have the wastegate and the manifold. I like it just fine.

-Josh

[240sxOwner]

how much power are you pushing through there? How do you have the manifold braced?

[hysteria]

i am using it... i made my own manifold brace. it works like a charm, but you know i am not a power fanatic nor would i advertise this kit is great for high end power... i mean but basically the kit comes with all of the things you CAN go cheap on, but don't have to... see the turbo and manifold and wastegate and bov don't have to be the most expensive out there to make power... they can be mediocre, but you can't cut corners on fuel management if you want power, and you don't want your engine to blow up.

i am running 7 lbs of boost (0.5 bar), don't know power numbers.... maybe hovering around 200 whp...

this is a more realistic number you could theoretically expect from a kat on .5bar...a lot of kits advertise things like 240 whp.... umm sure you can get that on .5 bar with a whole lot of tuning.

if you throw on a turbo and a fmu and just go with .5 bar you're probably not going to see 240 whp.

see here's how you can ballpark calculate theoretical numbers in hp as a function of boost pressure:

normal atmospheric pressure is around 14.7 lbs... so logically if you double your atmospheric pressure (which is done by the turbo by creating a vacuum), you can double your power as well. so logically by my setup on .5 bar, i would have my original power plus 50% of the original number.

originally i think the 240 may put down around 125 hp to the wheels (this may be stingy or generous, i'm not really sure... it varies by engine and i've never had mine on a dyno so i don't know)...so 1/2 of 125 = 62.562.5 + 125 = 187.5 hp i can expect at my rear wheels.

again this is only a ballpark figure, and doesn't sound like much maybe, but i don't believe many people have a concept of real tangible power... people overestimate their numbers (like nissan does when they tell you that the 240sx has 155 hp... that may be, but only at the crank).

anyway their is an actual more precise formula to calculate hp numbers as a function of fuel and air flow... i don't know it off hand, but it';s fun to go around and call bs on people when they throw out some rediculous number. you can ask them about fuel setup and air flow and determine how much crap they are talking.

there are a lot of people that ACTUALLY DO put down a lot of power with their kat on this forum. ask them about tuning and what not, because they are more apt to tell you what they have done to achieve desired numbers.

i don't tune my car for a number, i just try to make it well balanced, and not overpowered... so i'm not the guy to ask about "hey i want this power, what should i do?"... i can give you advice but i have never personally done dyno tuning and that's where a lot of power lies.

i'm not knocking the guys who do go for big power, that's just not what i'm in to.

ask the guys like structure, ivanatspracing, dwracing, and many more.

also use the search button, there is A LOT of information on this forum that would interest you.

[240sxOwner]

i know all about Fuel management and what not...I will be running a JWT ECU with 50lb program and z32 maf. I just wanted to know how much power this turbo and manifold and handle. You have any pics of the setup, or the turbo you received?

[DRIFTEADOR]

$$ usually = quality. although imo, thats not the case with jwt. they charge what they charge because they are innovators of ecu chipping, of nissan at least, and peaople are willing to pay for the name. i think its worst "tuned" setup since its not tuned to a specific setup, rather tuned to accomodate a number of differnt setups as long as they have the same size injectors and mafs. as for engines blowing up, as long as someone knowledgable does the tuning, it doesnt matter if you have a $300 afc or a $1400 ems, the motor will be as reliable, and power will be similar if not same. i've given my opinion on ssac/stone mountain turbos before so i wont do it again, but know that you are taking a chance. some are built right, some arent. if you are one of the unlucky few, you're likely to blow a seal whether you run 1psi or 20psi. oh, and hysteria, your calculations are way off. by your example a t25 would give the same power at any given psi as a t88...we know thats not true

[240sxOwner]

I realize money coinsides with quality...BUT i was not expecting the absolute best product.....I just wanted a kit to get me started, and i will upgrade to more quality parts as funda come available. Thanks for the help so far......anyone else running the kit or have any useful info i could use? Custom Downpipe?

[hysteria]

yeah of course this is not accounting for turbo sizer and all it's just a BALLPARK FIGURE like i said... thanks for calling me on that and i only meant that for low boost apps like mine, not for a precise calculation involving all kinds of variables... i''m sure my car makes around that number.

umm what i said about the actual formula for figuring out theoretical power given fuel consumption and air and some other factors... yeah that is pretty accurate, but like i said i'd have to look it up, don't have it on hand right now.

i made my own downpipe and exhaust from the turbo back, and installed a fresh cat. it's a good starter kit, but if you are planning on really modifying everything later on and turning up the boost past 1 bar, i don't think i'd reccommend it... there are better kits that come with piggy back systems, or you could build your own.. the boostddesigns kit isn't a bad price, and they have quality stuff.

you have a lot of options, just compare a lot of kits and see what people say about them. i say this kit is good for a starter. it all depends on how quickly you plan on making more power, etc.

[240sxOwner]

I think i am going to run this kit at about 10psi daily....but only after i break it in (first 1000 miles) at 7psi. Mototr will be fully built on the bottom end. The head was already machined and heat treated to make it stronger. New clutch, fidanza flywheel are going in also. Once i star really craving power my friend is going to build me a custom log style manifold, and i will get a 50 or 54 trim Real T04E