Who's Turbo S14 VH45 is this?

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Yellow4g63
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klh6686
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Holy crap, idk but I want to know more naow!

EDIT: found this:

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Yellow4g63
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I would have thought he could do more hp for the boost he was running and been on E85. btw where did you find the graph?

klh6686
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http://www.vadriven.com/forums/showthre ... ost6979694

He basically says it was a rough tune and that there is a lot more in it still.

Jeff Taylor
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Yeah, the tune is crap right now and I will need more time on the dyno. Prior to doing those pulls I did some rough tuning on the highway, but the lamda curve is still off. I still need to lean it another 15% up top and then begin incrementing ignition timing until I reach MBT.

I may dyno again this weekend if I can get some new Street ET's mounted.

Jeff

Yellow4g63
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Is it a street car? or a race car?

Jeff Taylor
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street-legal race car ?

Yellow4g63
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what I mean is are you going to drive it on the street or is just for track use.

Jeff Taylor
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both.

klh6686
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Oh dang Jeff Taylor in the house! We need pics man!

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man this makes me excited for my car !!!!!!!!!!

Yellow4g63
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Jeff Taylor wrote:both.
Very nice!.

klh6686
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I need to know what mph this car traps at!

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Damn Jeff, share the mod list! Especially some pics of the intake manifold you made.

d k
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would really like to see the intake as well.

Did you forward mount the turbo(s)?


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David Steele
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d k wrote:would really like to see the intake as well.

Did you forward mount the turbo(s)?


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There is only 1 turbocharger.

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Very nice! Also would like to know/see more!

silv8
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Anyone got any REAL info on this car. I would love to know more info if anyone can point me in the right direction to either get an insight into what Jeff has done with his set up or even in touch with jeff himself let me know.

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Sorry guys - I've been busy lately. I should have a new video & pictures after this week. The plan is to put it back on the rollers now that I have fixed several things.

If you want me to take any specific pictures of parts of the car, let me know - maybe you can learn from my progress or mistakes.

Jeff

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Nice can't wait.

silv8
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I am dying to know what you have done internally to your engine. Rumour has it that it is stock internals?
I have built an s13 with vh45det t04z and have also boot mounted the radiator. Yep i copied yours.
I have custom plenum and extractor style manifolds etc etc.......
My set up did not go anywhere to really even talk about, it ran out of valve springs at 5500rpm and we couldn't stop it from pinging. It only made a mere 320bhp on 6psi.I have a feeling that the vvt was not working properly through the aftermarket computer i run, will this make a huge difference?
I have pulled that engine out it as it had been sitting for 3 years and have started on putting together a built/ decompressed combo. I have spent 3 years on building this car and have almost been ready to through the vh45 in the bin and start again with boosted ls2 or similar but seeing your car has given me some sort of hope.
Any details you can share would be appreciated.

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Internally – Nothing except for replacing the timing chain guides. Custom machining connecting rods, pistons, and camshafts is beyond my budget. The rods seem to be able the same size as SR rods, which I have seen handle 150hp each. I believe the pistons will be okay but are a little less forgiving to detonation than forged pistons – I’m willing to deal with that. Of course my compression ratio is stock, so I have to run a high octane fuel to make decent power. E85 is cheaper than 87 octane and just as good as the best VP Racing fuels for a turbo car, so I’m running that. An intercooler really isn’t needed, but I’m running one anyway.

Have you checked for other ignition-related problems that would cripple your engine to 5500 rpm? Perhaps the CAS was too far advanced? I believe that I have revved to 7200 without VVT engaged and didn’t have any problems – it just reduced power at higher rpm’s.

If your aftermarket computer was a chipped OEM VH45DE ECU, then the VVT solenoids should have still engaged, unless the tuner really screwed up the .bin file.

Your radiator is in the trunk too eh? Yeah, if I were to do it again I would try to fit it in front of the radiator support and not run an intercooler (assuming the car is alcohol-fueled). Fortunately, with a used Lincoln MKVIII fan the car has absolutely no cooling problems. Just be weary of exhaust fumes and radiator heat pouring in through the trunk and into the cabin. An upper radiator shroud to isolate the radiator to the exterior of the car is important.

Jeff

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What injectors did you use?
Fuel pump?
Coil packs?
What total timing does it have?
Also what about cam timing is it the same as factory?

My car has a rear aluminum fire wall, and ducting for the radiator. I have set it up to draw air in from the trunk/ boot lid and have removed the spare wheel well for hot air to escape. Initially the car ran hot at the track (drift car) but on the street is was ok. I have made a few changes to the set up and now run a duct above the boot lid to draw more air in and it seems to stay cooler. More R and D will be required though. But yes if i had another go at it i would have run the radiator in the front of the car so installing a fuel system into the trunk /boot area could have been achievable.

It would be interesting to see your car on methanol. it is cheap and with the 10.2 comp you will be able to squeeze more boost and less chance of detonation.
Any chance of some pictures? I will put some of mine up when i can work out this cheep mobile phone.
Thanks

Jeff Taylor
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1600cc/min injectors
3 Walbro 255HP in-tank pumps
OEM Q45 coil packs
At peak torque it was around 20-deg BTDC
Cams and cam timing is OEM...although I am switching the VVT around 4100rpm, which I think is OEM?

I should have pictures up after this weekend...

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Looking forward to the pics, cant wait to see everything and thanks for being so open and willing to share your setup with the rest of us!!

Jeff Taylor
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klh6686 wrote:Looking forward to the pics, cant wait to see everything and thanks for being so open and willing to share your setup with the rest of us!!
You're welcome. Hopefully some of this info will keep people off stressful dead-end roads.

silv8
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Yeah high 5's all round for sharing the info Jeff.

I must have an underlying issue perhaps my cam timing was out, or some sort of mechanical or ecu problem..............

never the less im sure i will get it sorted.

Thanks again

Nealoc187
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So a little birdie told me this car made 820whp before a rod finally let go. Nice to see see someone finally making power like these things are capable of on stock internals rather than wasting money building motors for 500whp when it's not needed or simply giving up because they don't want to put a properly sized injector in the car.

Yellow4g63
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Very impressive.

b20vtechb
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i'm guessing / hoping it was a spun rod bearing? i opened all my clearances up a bit over stock so hopefully i dont run into this issue. i'm not going for that much power either though


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