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Chezedik
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I tried searching, but to no avail. But I am sure you guys know how good that search function can be. I have a Z31 .60 A/R T3. I want to upgrade it to T4 later, but for now, I am getting tired of looking at it sitting on the shelf. Does anyone think I can get away with running it for a little while at 8-10lbs on an FMU? I was thinking 8:1 disc, and running it through a front mount, so 10lbs would drop to about 8. It would get me boost for a little while until I can get Z32 MAF and Enthalpy. Oh, and it is a oil and water cooled turbo, but I understand it is really a ***** to try to hook up the coolant, and not altogether necessary. Any input on that?


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i run a str8 T3 and i love it. 8-10 pounds is nice for the everyday driving. my turbo is also water cooled and oil cooled. like u said, the installation of the coolant lines really adds to the list of possible problems but many have gotten it to work right. i personally did not hook up the coolant lines to it. instead i just plugged up those holes and now i let the oil take care of it. been turbo since last march and havent had any problems with not running coolant to the turbo.

as for getting away with running just an fmu, its really gonna depend on ur a/f's. i was originally gonna run an fmu but u will really max out that fmu's potential after about a couple days of driving. also remember that u really wont know be able to up the boost at all since u cant really change or adjust how much fuel is going to the engine. but if u are gonna use the fmu, slap on the turbo and just run stock boost for the time being. in the meanwhile, keep saving up for the upgrades and also get a fuel pump while ur at it. hope this helps.

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I already have the walbro, I want to get about 8lbs out of it and have found that a 6 to one would cover that, but A/Fs would be the concern. Of course, I could retard timing, and run 8 though. Since most peoples concern with A/Fs is for cooling of the charge.

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LEMHEAD or Kawaii, what do you think? Anyone else with a T3?

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ran a super 60 for a while, i loved it. i'm thinking of getting another...not sure if i want to try out a t3/t4 instead though.

i'm really not sure if you'll be safe without any other fuel management though..

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Yeah, but the idea is to give me a place to upgrade from. Also, safe is a relative term. I live in a college town. If I blow my ringlands, then I can just ride a bike until it is fixed. So that said, can it be done for a while. I plan to use my tax return for a proper turbo upgrade. I just want a little boost until then.

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Jookmasta, do you know what size plug you used for the coolant holes on the T3? I'm planning on using a Z31 T3 also, and I need to know what size fittings to get for the coolant holes.

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mine has both water/oil lines but i didn't hook up water line yet. (i hate banjo fitting. Can't get it/buy it/fine it etc)

Anyway i'm not sure since i never boosted more than 6.7psi. But i love it because it has no lag. If i go more than 300hp, i'll get another turbo LATER.My goal is 250 Whp so i'll stick with my t3.

Don't ask me about fuel setup. i only have walbro and untuned SAFC2 : ( I have 450cc injectors not installed yet. I don't know if i really should boost 12 psi......

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So you are running your boost w/o a fuel upgrade? Then I am fine with a low press FMU for a little while.

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no. Never, i didn't say it's safe.

Stock fuel system will max out at 4 psi. there's thread about this issue.

you need injector, you need injector, you need injector.

i'm risking my engine. But i already ran 4k miles, i guess i never do full boost. usually drive really slow.

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right, but I think an FMU would be good for a little boost until I get myself ready for the ultimate upgrade to my T04B when I can afford the fuel mods. I just need boost. And I think I can pull it off with an FMU for a while. The IAP kit uses one, and everyone and there mom is hanging from their ball hairs.

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i dont run the water lines hooked up to my turbo. been turbo since march and havent had any issues. just plugged up the holes as no one had ran water lines back then and i really didnt want to run into any overheating issues by messing with that stuff. i know for a fact that they can be ran but i personally have done fine without em. billklinevt i think is his handle has ran water lines to his turbo. i think he did the write up on http://www.ka-t.org

hope this helps.

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It's just a matter of reliability, right? They can be done w/o, just rebuild more often. T25s don't have them, neither do earlier T3s. So no biggie, right? JOOK, correct me if I am wrong, but if Kawaii can run it on stock fuel, a 4 or 6:1 should be good for a little more boost, right? Keeping it low would be good so that it doesn't overrun the pump, wouldn't you say? That will get me by until time for bigger things.

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You *can* run a FMU with the stock injectors, but it is -at best- voodoo fuel management. Unfortunately, I bought a 240 with a FMU already on it. A new rail, 50lb MSDs, and Aeromotive FPR are already in hand. Just waiting on a Z32 MAF and getting the ECU programmed for a *proper* fuel setup.

As for water-cooling: Yep, my low-buck setup that was on the car (T3) didn't have the water lines hooked up. I bought two adapters from http://www.nissport.com that splice into the two radiator hoses, and ran 3/8" coolant lines from there. Works like a charm.

Nissan T25s and T28s came with water lines, btw. At least the FWD/AWD variants did.

Hope this helps.

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That's some money, does it have an inlet and outlet port? That would work well on my low port. And yes, I agree it is voodoo, but will get me by with a little turbo. When I go big, it will be right.

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Does *what* have an inlet/outlet port? I don't understand your question.

The Nissport adapters do cost money, yes, but are well worth it. IMHO.

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yea i'm looking at getting TicTakMans super 60 T3. GREAT THREAD! I wanted to know this too. I hope the t3 runs pretty decent. just trying to get 250 out of her right now

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I meant the Nissport adaptor, but it doesn't matter. Since I removed the coolant lines on the TB, I will just run them through there. I think you can easily get 250 out of a T3 so long as you aren't afraid to get boost to 10+psi. I would like to run no more than 10, so I will eventually go T3/T04b. But, for a little while at least, I will just have to go voodoo and run the T3. Just to check everything first, and to have boost for a few months.


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