Who here has installed 200 wet nitrous on their G50?

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I'm just needing basic setup tips and safety tips from those who have done this on their daily driver 1990-95 Q45. thank you!


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Probably no one whose engine is still running.

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Ya 200 wet is way to much on a stock block. You may want to try Dry 100 first.

You won't see that beast of a gain over a Turbo, and Nitrous is a little harder to handle. Turbo is cheaper, and you can always go up in flavor. Also, the nitrous added to a turbo to reduce lag on a big setup is why you would really need it. You can feed the line directly into the turbo housing.

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Have any of you even done this before? I have heard reports of the stock block being capable of handling over 1,000hp. I know the stock Ka24de from a 240sx can handle 500 ft lbs tq (I did it), why can't a VH45de handle a lousy 200 wet shot? This is not a mustang 4.6 that splits in half at 400hp.

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subtle_driver wrote:Have any of you even done this before? I have heard reports of the stock block being capable of handling over 1,000hp. I know the stock Ka24de from a 240sx can handle 500 ft lbs tq (I did it), why can't a VH45de handle a lousy 200 wet shot? This is not a mustang 4.6 that splits in half at 400hp.
You made 500wtq on a stock KA huh?

Then 1000WHP on the stock VH should be a a walk in the park.. haha

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subtle_driver wrote:Have any of you even done this before? I have heard reports of the stock block being capable of handling over 1,000hp. I know the stock Ka24de from a 240sx can handle 500 ft lbs tq (I did it), why can't a VH45de handle a lousy 200 wet shot? This is not a mustang 4.6 that splits in half at 400hp.
You made 500wtq on a stock KA huh?

Then 1000WHP on the stock VH should be a a walk in the park.. haha
Where should I go to get this answer. I have less than two months to get this system installed, and convert back to E85.

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The key is with any forced induction, whether it be boost or nitrous, is preventing detonation.

I am a bit more comfortable with a wet shot than a dry shot though, because IMO you have a bit more chances of running too lean with a dry shot if things don't work out just right..

I've got a JWT ECU for nitrous that can handle about a 150 shot on stock injectors.. :)

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I must say that these forums are the WORST for tech knowledge when its needed. There are a few here who know what they are talking about (obvious who they are) and then 1,000 who have no fuggin idea but still put their spoke in.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks that the engine can not take a 200 WET shot of nitrous.
People are making a whole lot more than stock +200hp with this engine.

The fact its WET means that along with the gas its also spraying in the FUEL automatically to compensate.

Spraying DRY means fuel needs to be added another way and this is risky as you have said, wes.

YES there are other things to consider and it should be installed and setup by someone who knows totally what they are doing and who is going to use the right parts (window switch)

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Wow you can read: a-little-insight-into-nitrous-oxide-t515089.html...I am impressed!

If you have to use bad language to express your anger you sound real smart.

I used to know little about cars and then I joined this forum and learned...This forum WAS great back in the day, but to many have left.

And besides NOS is lame, either keep it all engine or Super Charge it!

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I haven't read that article. The photo's I posted were taken by me of my own stuff around four years ago.

"NOS is lame, keep it all engine or supercharge it!" sounds like something someone who knows sfa would say. Next you'll tell me turbos have too much lag and so NA vehicles are faster round corners, right?

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I assume SFA means: S*** For Answers? This is not AIM so take that trash elsewhere. And I just don't like turbos because of all the piping and the sound.

See this forum used to have smart members who wouldn't resort to acronyms or swears, Then people you come along throwing out accusations.

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You don't like turbo's because of the piping and the sound? BAHAHAHAHAHahahaha. Yeah that a logical mind at work.

do you have a supercharged Q45 (or supercharged anything?) or do you just like what you saw on F&F

No idea who you are- but to be honest if your motor has no form of forced induction and you have had the thing for four years (just looking at your join date) you are either A, a dreamer or B, do not intend to make your car much faster in a straight line than stock.

Either way- why are you here and why are you posting in this thread?

There is nothing in here about dynamat or tint film.

-nathan

ps, if you don't know what a few acronyms mean after 7,000 posts here........ this forum cant be for just smart people and you must be a slow learner. :poke:

EDIT; so i did a quick search to see if i was really putting my foot in the wrong place. It appears I'm not. You can't even change the oil in your engine and trans without either muffing it up or creating a thread about it ( or both!). Maybe you should just relax. Use the best oil filter you can afford and get on with life.

bahahhahaa from the top or from the bottom.. hmmn, how should i change my oil? which oil filter should i use? where did i put my pants? why am i dripping. MOMMY!
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Not liking a Turbo is a opinion and everyone is entitled to one!

I don't have a Super Charged Q45 but I would not mind owning one. What does a join date have with time of ownership? For all you know I might be the original owner of the vehicle. :)

How have you helped in this topic other than say it can be done. I can say "Yes you can add a 200 shot of NOS" if I wanted to.

I don't care for Dynamat (I like noise) or tint (Because I love OEM Stock).

What does post count have to do with knowledge of acronyms?

I can't wait for Fast Five!

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flyingbrick wrote:I must say that these forums are the WORST for tech knowledge when its needed. There are a few here who know what they are talking about (obvious who they are) and then 1,000 who have no fuggin idea but still put their spoke in.

I'm not sure why anyone thinks that the engine can not take a 200 WET shot of nitrous.
People are making a whole lot more than stock +200hp with this engine.

The fact its WET means that along with the gas its also spraying in the FUEL automatically to compensate.

Spraying DRY means fuel needs to be added another way and this is risky as you have said, wes.

YES there are other things to consider and it should be installed and setup by someone who knows totally what they are doing and who is going to use the right parts (window switch)

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Its tough getting any good info on this forum...
a-little-insight-into-nitrous-oxide-t515089.html
I reposted the link, thanks!!!!

According to this article, the ideal setup would be direct port or dry for a Q45, am i right? But the intake manifold is feeding downward, so it is ideal to prevent puddling. I dunno...

So far nobody has done this to their Q45 and can give me insight.
I don't like NOS, I prefer a turbo system. I build my own turbo systems and have made insane power and broken records. But The Q45t is not my favorite car to work on since there is no room in the engine bay. I just need a little more power to get up to speed faster in the 1/8th mile and I'm not willing to build a new turbo setup on my Q45 since I'm too broke at this moment for that. IF anyone wants to invest in me i can do it, I have the time, just no money.

I just converted back to e85 so a nos setup would be safer than with gas.
Has anyone done direct port, or do you have great success with shooting it into the TB?

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Yeah misinformation ensues wherever you go sometimes..

Like I said before, I had a 150 shot on my Q, right now it doesnt work because one of the lines got kinked when I did the 5 speed.. I had it running up the firewall and when I loosened my brake pedal it found its way behind there and messed up one of those hoses...

I honestly would not hesitate to put a wet shot into the TB.. Direct port nitrous is like winning the ugliest dog competition... Its the best of a bad thing.. Nitrous is inherently easy and its made for easy power, I would not mess around with direct port, IMO you'd run into more issues like vacuum leaks or lines popping under the plenum.. As if the VH45 needs any help with extra plumbing!!!

Remember you're always using nitrous at WOT so the air velocity entering the plenum is high, so I would imagine puddling would be a very unlikely issue assuming no leaks...

I would love to boost my Q too with 2 turbos... :)

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thanks wes :-D

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Getting ready to install Direct Port System tomorrow night...

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Update, Ran 150 shot of nitrous on my q45 with 850cc injectors, tuned on
E85, 5-speed and managed to beat a few souped up Sr20det 240's, new mustang gt, wrx sti.
Nothing happened to my engine :) put on dyno, made 460tq (from memory) need to find dyno printouts...
I ran a nitrous xpress wet kit and tuned it with a wideband on the street. The engine loves the nitrous oxide and ethanol. :) I need a real LSD for this thing.

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I have a plenum fromt 91 q45 drilled and tapped for direct port if anyone is interested, also have extra 8 wet foggers, MAKE OFFER. Install is going good, not in to much of a hurry but working on it in spare time.

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Just wondering how did you tap into the fuel, or did you run a seperate line and pump?

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Tapped Into rubber hose after z32 filter. Using walbro 255l pump with gas and pure e85 for past 3 years. (for those who said it won't work or last)


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