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Does anyone out there have there own personal Nissan consult?

Does anyone have a Q45 "Active test" card?

If so to eather one, sound off with your location just city and state please.

Shops should be included in this.


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Two words: Infiniti Dealers.

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Of course..

Who else..

I need to find uot what type of flash memory interface they use on the unit.

Also, the type of com ports it has.

And the code they use to write the programs.I've asked dealers around here but they don't know or wont say.

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Search infiniti online mechanic for CONZULT

There is a consult emulator that is available for laptops and palm pilots...

$300

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I think that you are posing your question wrong. I think that you may be seeking information on the protocol, if so Click Me to answer you question. Oh, I still have not gotten it to work with my 94Q, but I am still trying.

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Thank you that is Exactly what I asked for! But I left out on key thing I need Active SUSPENSION tests. Bleeding, testing individual accumulators, simulated pitch tests, and many other active Q-45 tests. I was told by Q-45Tech that the consult requires a seperate data card for active suspension tests and that great website you lead me to lists everything except active suspension. By the way are you trying to use the "Conzult"

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Ditto with GreenQ45a. I also would like active suspension tests.

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BOOYEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...=WDVW

First one ive seen in a while!!!

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Does anyone know if you can re-calibrate suspension settings with consult & the add on card?

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GreenQ45a wrote:Thank you that is Exactly what I asked for! But I left out on key thing I need Active SUSPENSION tests. Bleeding, testing individual accumulators, simulated pitch tests, and many other active Q-45 tests. I was told by Q-45Tech that the consult requires a seperate data card for active suspension tests and that great website you lead me to lists everything except active suspension. By the way are you trying to use the "Conzult"


No I will be writting my own software as soon as I can get the thing working. I have build a single sided one from scratch and also purchased a board from http://www.zcontrol.net/ both of which I can't seem to get working. I have tried two different laptops and two different ecus. I have also gone to tracing the five control pins to the ECU and have also tapped directly into the ECU. Once I find my issue there will be so many options for fun. You can dump the prom and make minor adjustments then burn a new one and interfacing via a daughterboard connected to the 40 pin port that nissan so nicely makes available. Also, I was thinking of making a PIC based gauge for displaying various ECU parameters and error messages.

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With color Palms and Pocket PC's so cheap it would be best to interface it with those two platforms.

then we could do so much with display and functions.

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WES, That's awsome look at all those cards!!!

Did you see how many bids I wonder if any are NICO bidders.

If not can anyone pitch on it?

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Every Nissan dealership and every shop that works on them SERIOUSLY has one [they may not have the active cards].

All parameters changed revert to normal when you shut off the engine.

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Q45Tech you have one right?

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I think Q45Tech uses the one owned by T3 in Atlanta.

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Does anyone have access to active q45 test card.

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Sure, but at $400 each [for the card alone with our 30% discount] it never leaves the shop. You can buy one from the dealer [prepaid].....they will order and you can see it in less than a week.

Some times I borrow the Consult from 6PM Friday night till 7AM Monday morning but I Assume financial responsibilty if it fail during that time..........mostly I use it during day between jobs [when we don't have Infiniti needing diagnosis.

A shop really can't function without one [we have only 2 now between both shops]............I have a broken one needs a new touch screen and case.........the cost to repair is $1,000. Defered for about a year then given to me.

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Q45Tech,

If I replace the active pumps on my Q will it need to be bleed with a consult?

Is there another way to bleed the system?

Will the system still work?

I have a FSM and I have read through it.

Also, would air in the system keep the cars active system from functioning?

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Q45Tech,

Do you own the broken Consult or the does the shop?

Is the LCD Broken or cracked.

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Not for sale or loan, I plan on getting it repaired. Just not on high priority as long as I have access to T3 units.

All the accumulators/struts have air/fluid bleeds or you can just loosen the hoses ---------CAREFULLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! just like you bleed brakes.

The ebay unit is a steal at $600 even $1000.

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I'm watching it.

Is nissan going to do the repairs?

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what are the purple cards for?

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Has anyone ever actually bought one of these?

Tested on a J30 yet? Would love to get my hands on something to give me all of that data. Wouldn't have the slightest clue what it all means! I'd figure it out eventually, with the board's help!

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I contacted them and here's what they said.

"nProbe will do engine functions and airbag functions and I think auto climate control functions for you, it will not do the active suspension functions."

It will work for you.

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Cannon of Japan built the Consult to Nissan specs.I really keep hopeing someone will do the software for a laptop......but as the 90-95 Q and Nissan die it hardly seems economical to spend the time. for just a limited market......when Consults are available..........there must be 1,500 of the obsolete Consult I hanging around dealers and independents waiting for a backdoor offer.

T3 needs to buy the Consult II version but that requires a monthly fee and dedeciated proprietary computer system to interconnect with Nissan [software is downloaded no more cards]........we live with Consult I and OBD2 scanners. AND OUR BRAINS and my jury rigged used Test Equipment.

In theory one could just upgrade to OBD2 by adding a few more sensors and extra rear O2 [or just emulate those]...........8-9 year old cars are just obsolete.

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When will you assume most dealers will be ready to get rid of they're old consults (to us)

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nProbe sounds nice to me.

However, at around $500.00 I just think they are pricing themselves out of the DIY'ers market. usually when I'm going to undertake a DIY job I go spend the saved $$$s on the right tools to do the job (unless I can barrow them). That has ranged from $50 to a couple of hundred.

Dropping $500 is a bit steep to get past the Boss(i.e. wife) for approval! Heck, she had a fit when I bought 2 pair of new jack stands and a new floor jack(again, the post lift wasn't going to happen). FYI Sam's club Goodyear 6ton stands $21.99/pair (huge and nice, made by Allied). Michelin floor jack $60.00 3.5 ton, I think, seems really nicely and heavily built. Both a real bargan in my book.

Anyway the nProbe is nothing more than a patch cable unit with some low cost electronics and software. At $200 I think they would capture a large part of the DIY market(and make more $$$s). Yea, they spent the time developing the sowtware and reverse engineering the patch cable/electronics, but the market is limited to an income level that doesn't (for the most part) do it themselves. IMHO

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Where do you think those units on Ebay are coming from dealers and independents..........very few individuals [DIY] have $5,000 pieces of test equipment for ocassional use.

Same thing with Toyota and Lexus before OBD2 you need a $4,400 scan tool that doesn't have a printer like Consult.

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Q45 Tech,

It is possible to emulate the CONSULT. I understand what you’re getting at.However, we live in the information age.People have gotten ConZult, nProbe, Zemulation and others to work.

All that needs to happen now is for someone to write an Active Suspension co-program for the nProbe.

It can run 95% of all Nissan standard tests(That includes All-Wheel steering HICAS tests)And 75% of Infiniti specific tests.

I’m trying to help people diagnose there own problems and keep there cars in good working order with an Infiniti Emulator (an Infimulator). Not take work from professional shops.

We still love our “old obsolete” cars.I was raised by a mechanic.I seen so much money put into cars that aren’t half the car the Q is let alone an Active Q.

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GreenQ45a wrote:Q45 Tech,All that needs to happen now is for someone to write an Active Suspension co-program for the nProbe.It can run 95% of all Nissan standard tests(That includes All-Wheel steering HICAS tests)And 75% of Infiniti specific tests.I’m trying to help people diagnose there own problems and keep there cars in good working order with an Infiniti Emulator (an Infimulator). Not take work from professional shops.We still love our “old obsolete” cars.I was raised by a mechanic.I seen so much money put into cars that aren’t half the car the Q is let alone an Active Q.


Exactly why I'm checking the Japanese net to find someone who will have some software for exactly the above stated reason. It's there, I know it is. It just has to be found and converted to english for a decent price! It only takes one person to spend some cash and he can make it back helping others. Well worth the effort.

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