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Modified by Edub1 at 11:01 PM 5/3/2006
who can tune a socketed ecu in the s. florida area?
Re: (hek1620)
So far only me. This is really the first I've discussed selling it. I will have a socket soldered in and provide the chip with the correction for $90. This will correct your A/F ratio and remove the top speed limit.
I will also tweek it if you want. But, I assume you will do this with the Emanage.
In the end, you will have the stability of a tuned ECU with the convienince of the Emanage. You will also have pressure sensitive timing controll.
I will also tweek it if you want. But, I assume you will do this with the Emanage.
In the end, you will have the stability of a tuned ECU with the convienince of the Emanage. You will also have pressure sensitive timing controll.
haha u guys are funny ..... have either one of u ever tuned a car on the dyno.???/
Edub have u ??? so u take chip burner 100$ + w2o system 300$ + emannage 200-300$ with harnesses u need., 250$ for btm + spare ecu (30$ ) + ur magic chip that u charging 90$ for 5$ dollar value ..... yah u get my point fcuken uselees ,,,,, i camn get AEM or Sds or pleanty of ful stanalones for ur added cost...
back to my point 40$ for a burner +10$ for extra chipo+socket. ... done. about 400$ on the side to pay dyno operator to have it fine tuned......thats about 4 hours of dyno time.
Edub have u ??? so u take chip burner 100$ + w2o system 300$ + emannage 200-300$ with harnesses u need., 250$ for btm + spare ecu (30$ ) + ur magic chip that u charging 90$ for 5$ dollar value ..... yah u get my point fcuken uselees ,,,,, i camn get AEM or Sds or pleanty of ful stanalones for ur added cost...
back to my point 40$ for a burner +10$ for extra chipo+socket. ... done. about 400$ on the side to pay dyno operator to have it fine tuned......thats about 4 hours of dyno time.
... i gotta finish my thoughts here/// so HERE U ARE 800$ LATER ripping it untuned to data log shiet .. taking a big chance not to blow up ... and than how do u monitor ur timing ??? how u know when to add timing when to pulll.....o wait btm right ? but emanage pulls timing too ... so how many degrees are u acctually pulling... and btm only pulls what if you need to add??? i hope u know that making power means increasing timing and compensating fuel. sorrie but i find ur setup 1 COMPLECATED and expensive expiriment. well the reason i am being a smart *** here is cuz i spend few hours at a dyno shop watching them tune a skyline that was chipped. And dude is looking forward to tune my ka-t now. he sad 3-4 hours of his time and nissan consult is all he needs.
Watching him this is what he does he revs 1000rpm at a time and watches his dyno . To much fuel he adds timing till there is knock , once there knock he adds fuel and watches whp resault, somettimes he adds 5 degrees , sometime he pulls 2 , to see where engine produces most whp. so tell me how u gonna add timing when needed. ? and how u gonna know what u adding if u have this crap *** piggy backs pulling what u are addting etc...
Watching him this is what he does he revs 1000rpm at a time and watches his dyno . To much fuel he adds timing till there is knock , once there knock he adds fuel and watches whp resault, somettimes he adds 5 degrees , sometime he pulls 2 , to see where engine produces most whp. so tell me how u gonna add timing when needed. ? and how u gonna know what u adding if u have this crap *** piggy backs pulling what u are addting etc...
Re: (180sx)
Am I the only one who can't understand a word this guy is typing?
180sx, please do the forum a favor and learn how to speak English before going off on one of your little rants.
By the way, a turbo tune needs areas of timing retarded, not advanced.
But please, you are being disruptive to an otherwise constructive thread. Come back when you are able to communicate properly.
180sx, please do the forum a favor and learn how to speak English before going off on one of your little rants.
By the way, a turbo tune needs areas of timing retarded, not advanced.
But please, you are being disruptive to an otherwise constructive thread. Come back when you are able to communicate properly.
Re: (Edub1)
u just mad cuz detroit lost .... go oilers You don't understand my English ok let me simplify my jibrish...1st point : ur setup will cost more than any stanalone and still will be unrealible DUE TO SO MANY PIGGYBACKS EMANNAGE+BTM
2nd point u never tuned anything in ur life and you think that timing always needs to be retarded on turbo tune , while it doesn't U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel , than u pull timing .
3rd u trying to sell untested shiet lets see ur dyno runs/video etc. all i can se in ur posts is lack of basic knoweldge of tuning. 4th go to dyno shop and watch them tune. .. than u'll understand my point. 5 th and last point, devious other hybrid members spend hours talking sense into u and teaching you , and now u trying to turn around and sell their info .... at least donate part of profit cuz if hybrid goes down u and ur future clients will be screwed.
2nd point u never tuned anything in ur life and you think that timing always needs to be retarded on turbo tune , while it doesn't U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel , than u pull timing .
3rd u trying to sell untested shiet lets see ur dyno runs/video etc. all i can se in ur posts is lack of basic knoweldge of tuning. 4th go to dyno shop and watch them tune. .. than u'll understand my point. 5 th and last point, devious other hybrid members spend hours talking sense into u and teaching you , and now u trying to turn around and sell their info .... at least donate part of profit cuz if hybrid goes down u and ur future clients will be screwed.
Re: (180sx)
For the benefit of the readers I'm going to correct your missinformation one time and then I'm not going to waste any more time with you.
Your first point
"1st point : ur setup will cost more than any stanalone and still will be unrealible DUE TO SO MANY PIGGYBACKS EMANNAGE+BTM"
If you were paying attention or knew what you were talking about you would know that the other posters already have Emanages and that these can handle timing. You do not need a BTM with the Emanage. I said that I was using a BTM. Also, an Emanage can be had on Ebay for $200, so alraedy you are full of it.
Your second point
"2nd point u never tuned anything in ur life and you think that timing always needs to be retarded on turbo tune , while it doesn't U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel , than u pull timing ."
Yes, I have tuned the ECU that is in my car now and I have tuned on a dyno. Timing has nothing to do with air/fuel ratio - you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
Your other ramblings.
"3rd u trying to sell untested shiet lets see ur dyno runs/video etc. all i can se in ur posts is lack of basic knoweldge of tuning. 4th go to dyno shop and watch them tune. .. than u'll understand my point. 5 th and last point, devious other hybrid members spend hours talking sense into u and teaching you , and now u trying to turn around and sell their info .... at least donate part of profit cuz if hybrid goes down u and ur future clients will be screwed."
I have in fact tested my tune - it is in my car now. I did learn much of what I know from hybridka and I have contributed a number of posts and information. But most of what I learned, I did through my own efforts.
I am not selling other peoples info and it is wrong for you to make such a slanderous accusation. The folks at Hybridka advocate DIY tuning.
I, and I alone suggested doing a fuel corrected tune coupled with a piggyback. I suggested this in that forum and nobody agreed with the idea. Instead, they advocate straight ECU tuning.
Now, I have debunked each one of your statements. You have demonstrated that you know nothing about tuning and have nothing constructive to add. I consider what you are doing harrassment.
Your first point
"1st point : ur setup will cost more than any stanalone and still will be unrealible DUE TO SO MANY PIGGYBACKS EMANNAGE+BTM"
If you were paying attention or knew what you were talking about you would know that the other posters already have Emanages and that these can handle timing. You do not need a BTM with the Emanage. I said that I was using a BTM. Also, an Emanage can be had on Ebay for $200, so alraedy you are full of it.
Your second point
"2nd point u never tuned anything in ur life and you think that timing always needs to be retarded on turbo tune , while it doesn't U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel , than u pull timing ."
Yes, I have tuned the ECU that is in my car now and I have tuned on a dyno. Timing has nothing to do with air/fuel ratio - you simply have no idea what you are talking about.
Your other ramblings.
"3rd u trying to sell untested shiet lets see ur dyno runs/video etc. all i can se in ur posts is lack of basic knoweldge of tuning. 4th go to dyno shop and watch them tune. .. than u'll understand my point. 5 th and last point, devious other hybrid members spend hours talking sense into u and teaching you , and now u trying to turn around and sell their info .... at least donate part of profit cuz if hybrid goes down u and ur future clients will be screwed."
I have in fact tested my tune - it is in my car now. I did learn much of what I know from hybridka and I have contributed a number of posts and information. But most of what I learned, I did through my own efforts.
I am not selling other peoples info and it is wrong for you to make such a slanderous accusation. The folks at Hybridka advocate DIY tuning.
I, and I alone suggested doing a fuel corrected tune coupled with a piggyback. I suggested this in that forum and nobody agreed with the idea. Instead, they advocate straight ECU tuning.
Now, I have debunked each one of your statements. You have demonstrated that you know nothing about tuning and have nothing constructive to add. I consider what you are doing harrassment.
Re: (hek1620)
I have it in my car with 460cc injectors. Car runs like a champ.
What this tune does is eliminates the need to dramatically alter your MAF signal. That is why people bash the piggybacks and it's a valid gripe.
All your tuning will be done with the Emanage except that you might reduce the MAF signal by 3% instead of 40-60%.
Bottom line; you will have the functionality of the Emanage without wacking out the ECU and it will work at any boost level.
Get the ignition harness and pressure sensor and the unit will pull timing as needed.
As far as blowing up, the end tune will be done via Emanage. If that is done properly, that is all that will come into play. My tune simply corrects for injector/MAF changes to get your Emanage into the right ball park.
What this tune does is eliminates the need to dramatically alter your MAF signal. That is why people bash the piggybacks and it's a valid gripe.
All your tuning will be done with the Emanage except that you might reduce the MAF signal by 3% instead of 40-60%.
Bottom line; you will have the functionality of the Emanage without wacking out the ECU and it will work at any boost level.
Get the ignition harness and pressure sensor and the unit will pull timing as needed.
As far as blowing up, the end tune will be done via Emanage. If that is done properly, that is all that will come into play. My tune simply corrects for injector/MAF changes to get your Emanage into the right ball park.
i didn't wanna come back to this and act like a dumb kid ...but dude stop confusing people on here
"Yes, I have tuned the ECU that is in my car now and I have tuned on a dyno. Timing has nothing to do with air/fuel ratio - you simply have no idea what you are talking about."
that statement to anyone who tuned a car tells 1 thing "ur a ****en idiot" adjusting ecu for biiger maf/injectors isn't tunning , thats just basics3 sure u have a ka-t and sure it runs like a clock with ur tune....lets see ur dyno run , lets see 1 sigle pic of ur set up. etc lets see dyno post with a/f grid before ur tune and after what ur whp gains etc ...thats my point untill i c that don't even talk
here do urself a favour and read it few times good info....before u make another statemnt fuel mixture and timing are not related haha http://www.qksltwo.com/turbo/diy/4new.html
anyway iam off to the garage so post all u want it don't matter to me i don't have time for ur bull
"Yes, I have tuned the ECU that is in my car now and I have tuned on a dyno. Timing has nothing to do with air/fuel ratio - you simply have no idea what you are talking about."
that statement to anyone who tuned a car tells 1 thing "ur a ****en idiot" adjusting ecu for biiger maf/injectors isn't tunning , thats just basics3 sure u have a ka-t and sure it runs like a clock with ur tune....lets see ur dyno run , lets see 1 sigle pic of ur set up. etc lets see dyno post with a/f grid before ur tune and after what ur whp gains etc ...thats my point untill i c that don't even talk
here do urself a favour and read it few times good info....before u make another statemnt fuel mixture and timing are not related haha http://www.qksltwo.com/turbo/diy/4new.html
anyway iam off to the garage so post all u want it don't matter to me i don't have time for ur bull
Re: (hek1620)
I will correct for 550cc injectors and whatever MAF you have. The car will run like stock. You will want to install the Emanage and tune it before using any boost.
Email me if you have more questions.
Email me if you have more questions.
Re: (180sx)
Changing values is easy for what he is doing, making adjustments isn't all that hard, but I agree that timing and fuel are somewhat related in terms of EGT's and what will prevent detonation issues.
Re: (Chezedik)
That doesn't make them related. It makes them equaly importanat. Big difference.
U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel
Add timing untill you get lean or run out of fuel. That makes absolutely no sense.
U add timing untill u start getting lean and running out of fuel
Add timing untill you get lean or run out of fuel. That makes absolutely no sense.
Re: (Edub1)
That's true. I guess equally as important is probably a better way of putting it.