whitebunny +(-) clutch setup (pix inside)

[PyroTecK]

after very little searching, alot of stupid questions, some research and hoping for the best i got the new setup in. i had the flywheel laying around for a few months just waiting for the stocker to give up, and as u can see in the pictures, it deffinetly gave up.

details on the setup:$250ish = rb20 fidanza aluminum flywheel used off ebay rated at 9lbs iirc measured at 10lbs on my bathroom scale (part# 143341) $145 = exedy oem z32 na clutch kit from clutch city online (part# 06-045)$40ish = 240sx throwout bearing and pilot bushing from nissan (not used)$30 = fluids and random sht$$$ = 3 pressure plate to flywheel bolts from nissan (i didnt get them but u deff need them)

we ended up using the throwout bearing and pilot bushing that came w/ the kit... the z32 throwout was bigger and fit better in the pressure plate so we opted for that and the pilot bushing was the same from nissan as the one that came w/ the kit. surprisingly everything bolted on perfect. there was no issues w/ grinding on the dustshield, or anything affecting fitment. i do reccomend getting the three extra bolts needed to hook up the pressure plate to the flywheel. the ka clutch goes in w/ six the z32 goes on w/ 9. i didnt bother to get them and we spent like 30min just trying to find some that would work and finally sourced them from... well id rather not discuss that part lol.

everything bolted on w/o an issue and the trans was filled up w/ 2qts of mt90 (all we had left at work) and half a qt of shockproof heavy (i had left over from my diff) and the car was ready for clutch break in.



the flywheel being prepped and cleaned

clutch comparison

there wasnt much left of the old stocker

and a random pic of my mess

overall impressions? well i fking love it... let me emphasize i fking love it. the clultch isnt too heavy but deff a lil stiffer (clutch dampner has been removed for a while now) and it grips great now that its broken in and i can really use it. the flywheel, well i love it, the car revs like nothing now, i miss the ka sound of it through the exhaust but its soooo much smoother now. u can hit the gas, blink and itll be at 5.5krpm. the rpms also drop faster which to me is a plus when shifting fast w/ the b&m.

video added


Modified by PyroTecK at 5:19 PM 10/26/2008

[Ekinchheng]

Great write up! I was planning to do this set-up on my ka-t but wasn't sure of it yet, because of lack of some information. Since I read your post i'm confidence into doing the setup. I have 1 question tho, I thought you have to use the 350z clutch set or you could use either one?

[simmode1]

Im really interested in this kind of setup, but I'd like to know how it performs when compared to an aftermarket clutch/flywheel combo, like the the one I have (Exedy stage 1 racing + Fidanza 11lbs flywheel) and how much power it is capable of holding... Any ideas or more input?

[bg180sx]

the exact same combo i am going for only half way there just need the flywheel

Im really interested in this kind of setup, but I'd like to know how it performs when compared to an aftermarket clutch/flywheel combo, like the the one I have (Exedy stage 1 racing + Fidanza 11lbs flywheel) and how much power it is capable of holding... Any ideas or more input?

i would think it could hold at least 450hp correct me if I'm wrong

[UndftdSole]

great write up man

[simmode1]

i would think it could hold at least 450hp correct me if I'm wrong

You from GP?! You're not to far away from me! Do you ever come out the DFWNISSAN.NET meets?

What info do you have that supports this setup holding that much power?

[PapaSmurf2k3]

Thanks for posting. If you add a little background info and some more detail (and maybe more pics??), we could make it an article and give you a custom title

[bg180sx]

You from GP?! You're not to far away from me! Do you ever come out the DFWNISSAN.NET meets?

What info do you have that supports this setup holding that much power?

thats right chilin by joe pool lake, i saw it on ka-t.org pretty sure it was those #s but have to read it again. where are they held at? also work night but if its on a friday or saturday might go!

[Riubens]

do you need a rb20 flywheel for this to work ??cause i have a fidanza for the ka and was thinking about this set up.

[simmode1]

thats right chilin by joe pool lake, i saw it on ka-t.org pretty sure it was those #s but have to read it again. where are they held at? also work night but if its on a friday or saturday might go!

WOW! WhiteBunny FTW! I'll do more research on it.

Go hit up DFWNISSAN.NET for our meetup dates and details. We got a nice little spot it Dallas that we frequent on our way to some late night drifting... Well... I just spectate...

[martins_240sx]

I did something similar to this for my ka-t. but I used the d21 flywheel and the 1983 300zx clutch kit. cost me just over 200 bucks and so far its held up to 430 hp with no slippage.

[simmode1]

^^^

[PyroTecK]

Great write up! I was planning to do this set-up on my ka-t but wasn't sure of it yet, because of lack of some information. Since I read your post i'm confidence into doing the setup. I have 1 question tho, I thought you have to use the 350z clutch set or you could use either one?

from what i was told and what i was able to find out u have that option of using either a z33 or z32 na clutch. the diff being the size, the z33 clutch is 250mm and the z32 is 240mm and stock being well 225mm. that and price, the z32 cost me $145 while the z33 runs $275. what i found strange was the when i matched up the clutch to the flywheel for a dry fit, the clutch covered up the whole friction surface. i just did a quick search and it seems like the rb20 clutch is also 240mm which would explain y it fit so perfectly. someone please correct me if im wrong. now this may only be true w/ the fidanza flywheel cuz i know ams has a 250mm setup for sale for the ka and i believe that uses the z33 clutch. it might also be true only w/ the fidanza since that has a set friction area, an oem rb flywheel might allow u to run the larger z33 clutch. more info is needed in this regard. to be honest i went w/ the fidanza only cuz i ran across it one day on ebay and jumped on it, i originally planned to go w/ a jgy rb flywheel. also the clutch sizes in inches are as followska = 8 7/8z32na = 9 7/16z33 = 9 7/8

Im really interested in this kind of setup, but I'd like to know how it performs when compared to an aftermarket clutch/flywheel combo, like the the one I have (Exedy stage 1 racing + Fidanza 11lbs flywheel) and how much power it is capable of holding... Any ideas or more input?

ive only ran a stock clutch before this and beat it to beyond slipping so i really dont have anything to compare it too. the biggest things that drew me to it from reading about it was that it retained stock feel over aftermarket upgrade pressure plates (basically the clutch pedal is firm but very drivable, near stock), ive heard that it has great holding in the higher hp numbers (although i dont know any exact figures), and a price u cant beat. if ur really going for big numbers though i dont think theres anything stopping u for going w/ an upgraded z32 na clutch. i hear the spec stage III+ is pretty kick ***.

Thanks for posting. If you add a little background info and some more detail (and maybe more pics??), we could make it an article and give you a custom title

u know something, i really wish i could think of more details to add but everything went on so easy that aside from telling people how to buy the stuff idk what else i could do lol. although i should add that i had the help of a professional mechanic and a friend who i had just helped do the clutch on his sr two weeks before doing mine, but all that aside everything just bolted right on. it was surprisingly simple w/o any hiccups, aside from me not ordering the three extra bolts from nissan. i think i got very lucky. if theres any info u think i should include that might help please let me know.on a sad note, i have no more pictures. we were rushing through it so i didnt really have time to take more pix, all the ones i took were included w/ the first post.

do you need a rb20 flywheel for this to work ??cause i have a fidanza for the ka and was thinking about this set up.

as far as i know u can use either the d21 or the rb flywheel. from the looks of it the main points are the six bolts hooking it up to the engine and that the pressure plate goes on w/ 9 bolts instead of the 6 that hook it up in the stock ka flywheel. so i dont think a ka flywheel will work w/ a different (hybrid) pressure plate clutch combo.

I did something similar to this for my ka-t. but I used the d21 flywheel and the 1983 300zx clutch kit. cost me just over 200 bucks and so far its held up to 430 hp with no slippage.

whats the weight of the d21 fw compared to stock? and did u have any issues w/ the dust cover on the trans? i read that the d21 was pretty heavy which is y i shyed away from it.

i figured once im boosted ill know how much power my setup can handle once it starts slipping... then its time to upgrade. please correct me if im wrong w/ anything that ive posted so far.

[martins_240sx]

the d21 is a about the same weight as stock iirc. about 32lbs. It did rub the dust cover but after about 2 mins it didnt anymore. the weird thing was that it only had six holes for the pressure plate?

[PyroTecK]

the d21 is a about the same weight as stock iirc. about 32lbs. It did rub the dust cover but after about 2 mins it didnt anymore. the weird thing was that it only had six holes for the pressure plate?

was it the same bolt pattern as the ka or did it look like the bolt pattern in mine in the pic above?

[martins_240sx]

it was the same it was just missing the center hole of the three so it only had the outside ones

[PapaSmurf2k3]

u know something, i really wish i could think of more details to add but everything went on so easy that aside from telling people how to buy the stuff idk what else i could do lol. although i should add that i had the help of a professional mechanic and a friend who i had just helped do the clutch on his sr two weeks before doing mine, but all that aside everything just bolted right on. it was surprisingly simple w/o any hiccups, aside from me not ordering the three extra bolts from nissan. i think i got very lucky. if theres any info u think i should include that might help please let me know.on a sad note, i have no more pictures. we were rushing through it so i didnt really have time to take more pix, all the ones i took were included w/ the first post.

Well, to complete it, you could start by saying why you are doing it (which you basically have, just needs to get formulated a little better), and then go into how to remove the transmission, or at least provide a link to another write up on how to do that. You're almost there haha. If you want to do it, post a link in the articles thread, located here:zerothread?id=203573