white smoke yes i search

[pungkiteater_671]

ive search and didnt find any info that was useful

ok so my car hasnt been running right for over 3 months cause i had a big a** vacc leak and i recently fixed it and now my car blows a lil white smoke

my car doesnt overheat oil doesnt smell like gas coolant is still green and no bubbles and my oil is still goldenbrown change oil like 4 months ago but hardly drove it since i changed it

the owner of the car change the headgasket and resurfaced the head exactly a year ago he hardly drives it to oh and today i found lots of oil in the sparkplug area clean it out and changed the gasket and it still blows a smoke

anyadvice will be helpful

[Shabbernigdo]

just sounds like old rings to me. not much u can do about that other then rebuild it .

[mRodiek]

White smoke means your burning coolant, which means something probably went bad or wrong when the previous owner did the headgasket. If your finding oil in your spark plug wells then you have got a bigger problem. Rebuild it

[Nali]

White is steam from burning the coolant/water mixtureThus it must be leaking coolant/water somewhere.

Are absolutely sure of the smoke color?

[OutToWinPAHC]

It does sound like coolant if it is white. Sure its not light blue?

[myother45isalesbaer]

White smoke or steam in a healthy engine is nothing more than burning off the water that accumulates in the exhaust system. This happens in all cars.

However....if you have white/blue or blue you may have motor issues. Look for "gunk" on your radiator cap. Over heating issues and or consumption of oil or water. All can indicate compression issues to internal failure of certain engine parts. If any of the later apply do a compression check and you can isolate the issue. Blown head gaskets are common ones. Read up on what a compression check is and how to read the results.

If its not a head gasket problem they you are probably looking at a cracked head or block. Was this motor ever allowed to over heat?? Letting a motor overheat can destroy it in many ways.

Good luck.

[pungkiteater_671]

thanks guys for the advices !!!!

but my car never over heated eversince i had it and im sure its white smoke coming out the exhaust my comp numbers are 155 on all four it all no more oil in the spark plugs cause i changed the vc gasket

mann i hope its just a small prob cause i really want my car running cause it hasn't been on the road for 5 months cause i had a daily and it was running weird cause the vacc leak

s*** if worse comes to worse ill be on the market for a longblock i really wish i can swap an sr already sucksss

[myother45isalesbaer]

with those compression numbers it does not sound like anything is wrong with the motor internally. what do the plugs look like if you pull them and look at the sparking end. if they are light brown thats good. if they are black thats an indication oil is getting into the combustion chamber. any color but light brown indicates a problem.

the question is how is oil or water getting into the combustion chamber if the compression check indicates good rings, valves, head gasket, etc. my quess is its something on the intake side getting into the combustion chambers. i'd start looking at intake manifold issues and any other componet on the intake side. don't discount the fuel delievery system either. are you sure you have nice, clean gas coming in with no additives.

[4cefed]

If your finding oil in your spark plug wells then you have got a bigger problem. Rebuild it

Um, no. The valve cover gasket is leaking, big deal.

[pungkiteater_671]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1GqIayQ__Q

heres how my pos motor sounds !!!

[OutToWinPAHC]

Sounds like rod knock, not a first, but before your little insert. Hard to tell over the camera, could also be the CCT

[E7-S14]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1GqIayQ__Q

heres how my pos motor sounds !!!

go out side and record a video.being in your garage distorts the sound.

[Lonismos14]

it kinda sounds like the timing guide is broken and your chain is rubbing

[nos487]

I have seen a couple KA's where they have run with a bad timing chain guide for so long it eat a whole in timing cover into water jacket in front cover. See if there is any coolant in oil or vice versa. Good luck!

[ashibah83]

how many bolts are holding your valve cover on......that IS obviously your problem.......(i am kidding)

[pungkiteater_671]

idk whats wrong with this pos lol theres no oil in the coolant and i took out the guides a while back and i put all the bolts back on the vc lol ... so effing hard to find a ka here in vegas !!!!!!!

[myother45isalesbaer]

listened to the video. That motor sounds aweful. I don't count out the lower bearing knock.....but it sounds more like valve knock. I don't know who took the head off and tried to repair it, but lower crank bearing knocks are usually deeper sounds and do not interfer with idle speeds.

I'd pull the valve cover, check the valve specs and if nothing is wrong, pull the head. Make sure it is torqued down right and then look for other related top end issues. There are many that can cause idle issues.

[jeff420]

where is your air filter? lol. try to smell the exhaust. could be old gas, could also be unburnt fuel. check your injectors and the o rings. if it smells sweet, coolant, if it smells flamable, gas.

[myother45isalesbaer]

I think those of us that are trying to help you would be better able to do so if your explainations of your problem would be more specific. Curse words, etc. to make a point are a waste of key strokes.

We have all told you white smoke is water or coolant. You refuse to beleive that sucking coolant into the combustion chambers is an issue. Blue and white can be seen by different people and one will tell you its blue and another will say its white. EXTREME oil burning out the tail pipe sometimes looks white/blue.

OK.....back to basics. This is a simple internal combustion engine. It has pistons and rings. Connected to a crankshaft. The crankshaft is connected to timing gears or chains that determine the camshaft rotation. The camshaft determines the valves opening and closing positions.

Let me say that these are not absolutes anymore because of electronics and other computer determined aids to make engines more efficent and powerful with less emissions. BUT.....the basic design of the internal combustion engine has not change in decades.

Pull all the plugs and do a wet and dry compression check and report back on the results. We can go from there.

[Romeo_rus]

It also might be an o-ring on injectors....I had a problem with my rb25det, it was a leaking o-ring... The engine started misfiring and huge clouds of white smoke...check that too

[myother45isalesbaer]

It also might be an o-ring on injectors....I had a problem with my rb25det, it was a leaking o-ring... The engine started misfiring and huge clouds of white smoke...check that too

Please tell me how O rings on injectors would cause white smoke?? I am really mistified on this one. Injectors just inject gas. I have seen some engines start up with too much oil and gas in the combustion chambers blow white/blue smoke. However, that is not the normal case unless this guy is running some kind of funky fuel that is a mix of stuff he is not telling us.

[jeff420]

Please tell me how O rings on injectors would cause white smoke?? I am really mistified on this one. Injectors just inject gas. I have seen some engines start up with too much oil and gas in the combustion chambers blow white/blue smoke. However, that is not the normal case unless this guy is running some kind of funky fuel that is a mix of stuff he is not telling us.

dude, unburnt fuel can be white. it happened to my 240, happened to a few customers 240's as well. soon as the injector o rings were replaced both cars ran great and white smoke went away. dont try to argue it otherwise. i hooked up a fuel return to a vac line on an old carberated honda i had and when i started it there was a huge a** cloud of unburnt fuel. i dare you to intentionally keep an injector o ring off or rip one and start your car. gah. you must not work on cars alot or you would know this


Modified by jeff420 at 6:36 PM 9/26/2009

[myother45isalesbaer]

dude, unburnt fuel can be white. it happened to my 240, happened to a few customers 240's as well. soon as the injector o rings were replaced both cars ran great and white smoke went away. dont try to argue it otherwise. i hooked up a fuel return to a vac line on an old carberated honda i had and when i started it there was a huge a** cloud of unburnt fuel. i dare you to intentionally keep an injector o ring off or rip one and start your car. gah. you must not work on cars alot or you would know this

Dude, I don't appreciate the "dude" comment and attitude at all. You can address me as Mr., Sir, Dr. or whatever, but dude is insulting to me. You are correct, too much fuel can produce white smoke for a short while.

FYI.....I have been working on cars, farm tractors, motorcycles since I was a teenager. I am now in my late 50's. I don't appreciate the age insult.You should think before you put your mouth into gear. What do you know about me that allows you to throw insults over this site?? Ever run a gas tank on diesel fuel just to make it go and get out of harms way?? Think not, but it can be done.

[jeff420]

Dude, I don't appreciate the "dude" comment and attitude at all. You can address me as Mr., Sir, Dr. or whatever, but dude is insulting to me. You are correct, too much fuel can produce white smoke for a short while.

FYI.....I have been working on cars, farm tractors, motorcycles since I was a teenager. I am now in my late 50's. I don't appreciate the age insult.You should think before you put your mouth into gear. What do you know about me that allows you to throw insults over this site?? Ever run a gas tank on diesel fuel just to make it go and get out of harms way?? Think not, but it can be done.

dude, dont be so anal. i call everyone dude. so dont get butthurt. its the internetz. i dont have any attitude. if you know that unburnt fuel can make white smoke then why question the "dude" you quoted. its not like i called you an old fart. loosen up man. you might enjoy life.

i find your repsonse asking how o ring injectors could cause that had a little attitude. you called someones response into question when they were totally right.
Modified by jeff420 at 6:58 PM 9/26/2009

[myother45isalesbaer]

dude, dont be so anal. i call everyone dude. so dont get butthurt. its the internetz. i dont have any attitude. if you know that unburnt fuel can make white smoke then why question the "dude" you quoted. its not like i called you an old fart. loosen up man. you might enjoy life.

i find your repsonse asking how o ring injectors could cause that had a little attitude. you called someones response into question when they were totally right.

Modified by jeff420 at 6:58 PM 9/26/2009

You have me laughing. Consider the "dude", being me lightened up. This white smoke issue still has me baffled. Too much gas is generally black. Although on initial starts I have seen flooded motors puff away some white until they get banging on all cylinders. Think I will stand down on this one and see what the final outcome is.

[jeff420]

yea i know what you mean. a little extra gas burns black but when you have too much it prolly just pools up in the exhaust and "vaporizes" because theres simply too much to burn. when i hooked up the fuel return on that old honda to the vacum line the whole car was engulfed in a very highly flamable cloud where you couldnt see anything. was scary. one spark and i coulda exploded.

nice to see you dont take it to heart man. diddnt wanna get all e-thug on that a**, lol jk. hell icould be wrong because the cars not in front of me for me to look at. but the way he describes it and from what i can hear on that horrible video it sounds like thats his problem. we gave him the info, thats all we can do. time to sit back and wait