Whistling seatbelt

[totallyjacked]

Hi - I just bought a 2003 q45 with 100k miles. It just arrived (had it shipped cross country) and is a very nice car but has many little issues. One that really bugs me is that both front seatbelts make a loud whistling sound when you pull them out to put them on. It literally sounds like someone is loudly whistling in my ear. I did a search for this and didn't find anything - has anyone else experienced this with these cars and is there a simple fix?Thanks!!!
Modified by totallyjacked at 8:16 AM 12/21/2007

[brymax]

Hi - I just bought a 2003 q45 with 100k miles. It just arrived (had it shipped cross country) and is a very nice car but has many little issues. One that really bugs me is that both front seatbelts make a loud whistling sound when you pull them out to put them on. It literally sounds like someone is loudly whistling in my ear. I did a search for this and didn't find anything - has anyone else experienced this with these cars and is there a simple fix?Thanks!!!

Sweet! I get to possibly be helpful to a newbie.

Some guys here might tell ya to do a search before you post up. Those people know who they are.

I personally would rather hear a response from someone that perhaps experienced the same thing just recently.

So here ya go...

Just last week I took my 2002 Q in and this seat belt issue is one of quite a few things that were remedied.

I know that sound. It's insane. Every time you lean forward. Every time you put your belt on, unless you go really slow. I know.

Check it out. Hopefully yours also has the problem of retracting the belt as well, no? I say hopefully cuz the Q's have a lifetime warranty on the seatbelt retractors that is a common problem. I also say hopefully cuz they might not replace the seat belts just cuz they sqeak. But failure to retract is a different story.

I had to inform my dealer that there is a lifetime warranty, cuz he wasn't aware of it. But he checked and it was and so they didn't just fix, they installed a whole knew system on both sides. New belts, guides & retractors. Free of charge.

Check it out.

Hope this helps.

Oh, your car may also develop an exhaust leak at the CC, burn oil and have an acceleration hesitation issue. These things are all also covered under warranty, or should be, up to I believe 70K miles.

Oh wait, you have 100K miles? Jeez, where'd the guy drive to?Sorry, you're burnt! Did ya get the extended warranty?I didn't and am scrambling to get as many things fixed under the standard warranty as possible, before it runs out next September.

Good luck. Welcome. And Enjoy!

[xerexabante]

There is a TSB for the slow retraction problem for the F50. And yes The Restraint System is supossed to be Lifetime warranty

[maxnix]

So no idea as to the cause? Very peculiar. I doubt "whistling" is a safety issue which is what the lifetime restraint warranty addresses.

Very difficult to search on a problem I've never seen posted here.

[brymax]

So no idea as to the cause? Very peculiar. I doubt "whistling" is a safety issue which is what the lifetime restraint warranty addresses.

Very difficult to search on a problem I've never seen posted here.

Yeah, I think I inquired about this here and I believe I was told to do a search.

However it was here I learned about the lifetime warranty.

[xerexabante]

This is as close to what I got 2002 Infiniti Q45 V8-4.5L (VK45DE) Vehicle Level Restraint Systems Seat Belt Systems Technical Service Bulletins All Technical Service Bulletins Restraints - Seat Belts Slow to Retract Restraints - Seat Belts Slow to Retract Notes Classification:RS01-002a

Reference:ITB01-003a

Date:October 7, 2004

ALL INFINITI VEHICLES:"D" RING RESIDUE CAN CAUSE SLOW SEAT BELT RETRACTION

This bulletin amends ITB01-003. Please discard all paper copies of the earlier version.

APPLIED VEHICLES: All Infiniti vehicles with front seat belt "D" rings

IF YOU CONFIRM:

Seat belt retraction of front seat belt(s) is slow, caused by residue" build-up on the D" ring(s),

NOTE: Slow seat belt retraction, if it occurs, may result in the following incidents after the seat belt is unbuckled:

^ Seat belt latch plate hanging up on clothing, ^ Seat belt latch plate becoming caught in the door,

ACTION



Use the "D" ring cleaning and refurbishing kit to:

^ Clean the residue off of the "D" rings. ^ Apply fluorine resin tape to the "D" rings. IMPORTANT: The purpose of "ACTIONS" (above) is to give you a quick idea of the work you will be performing. You MUST closely follow the entire Service Procedure as it contains information that is essential to successfully completing this repair.



PARTS INFORMATION



CLAIMS INFORMATION

NOTES: ^ This is the only authorized repair for this incident. DO NOT REPLACE the front driver or passenger seat belt assemblies before first using the Service Procedure in this bulletin to clean the "D" rings. ^ When this incident occurs both front driver and passenger seat belt "D" rings must be serviced using the Service Procedure provided in this bulletin. ^ For 1997-99 QX4 vehicles built before December 1998 see bulletin ITB00-004 for additional front seat belt retractor assembly information.

SERVICE PROCEDURE



1. Pull the affected seat belt more than 20 inches (500 mm) out of the B pillar seat belt retractor mechanism (see Figure 2). 2. Attach a binder clip (or similar clamping device) to the seat belt at the base of the retractor mechanism to allow for slack in the seat belt (see Figure 2).

CAUTION: Be careful not to damage the seat belt fabric when attaching or removing the clip.



3. Insert the "D" ring cleaning wire under the seat belt; between the belt and the "D" ring (see Figure 3).

The D ring cleaning wire is provided in the kit that's listed in the Parts Information.



4. Pull the wire back and forth across the surface of the "D" ring.

^ Make sure all residue is removed from the "D" ring in all areas where it contacts the seat belt. NOTE: ^ It is very important to remove all residue build-up from the "D" ring. ^ If you don't remove all residue build-up the fluorine resin tape won't stick properly.



5. Peel off the top (smaller) backing sheet from one of the fluorine resin tapes (see Figure 5).

^ Two fluorine resin tape pieces are provided in the kit.



6. Place the fluorine resin tape (adhesive side toward you) against the seat belt as shown in Figure 6A.

NOTE: ^ The sticky half should be down toward the floor of the vehicle. ^ The unexposed (not sticky yet) half should be up, toward the ceiling of the vehicle. 7. Pull on the top of the seat belt to roll the tape up and around the "D" ring (see Figure 6B).



8. As the tape rolls up to the "D" ring, center and smooth the tape around the back side of the "D" ring. Press the bubbles and wrinkles out with your fingers (see Figure 7).

NOTE: ^ Once the fluorine resin tape is applied to the "D" ring, it cannot be repositioned. ^ Take care to properly attach the tape to the "D" ring. ^ Center the tape correctly on the "D" ring and smoothly apply it to the "D" ring surface so that no wrinkles or ridges are present. ^ Wrinkles or ridges in the tape may prevent the seat belt from moving smoothly through the "D" ring. If this should occur replace the tape with a new piece.



9. Peel off the remaining tape backing (see Figure 8A). 10. Carefully apply the tape around the remainder of the "D" ring. Press down the edges and make sure there are no wrinkles (see Figure 8B).



11. Pull the seat belt back and forth against the tape-covered "D" ring to ensure that the tape is firmly applied (see Figure 9). 12. Remove the binder clip from the seat belt. 13. Confirm the seat belt moves smoothly and quickly through the "D" ring.

^ Latch and unlatch it. Allow it to retract back into the retractor mechanism several times.

14.Repeat steps 1 through 13 on the remaining front seat belt.



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[carfrk666]

does that also include a G50? and would mine be under warrente even if im not original owner?

[jamesmost]

Sweet! I get to possibly be helpful to a newbie.

Some guys here might tell ya to do a search before you post up. Those people know who they are.

I personally would rather hear a response from someone that perhaps experienced the same thing just recently.

So here ya go...

Just last week I took my 2002 Q in and this seat belt issue is one of quite a few things that were remedied.

I know that sound. It's insane. Every time you lean forward. Every time you put your belt on, unless you go really slow. I know.

Check it out. Hopefully yours also has the problem of retracting the belt as well, no? I say hopefully cuz the Q's have a lifetime warranty on the seatbelt retractors that is a common problem. I also say hopefully cuz they might not replace the seat belts just cuz they sqeak. But failure to retract is a different story.

I had to inform my dealer that there is a lifetime warranty, cuz he wasn't aware of it. But he checked and it was and so they didn't just fix, they installed a whole knew system on both sides. New belts, guides & retractors. Free of charge.

Check it out.

Hope this helps.

Oh, your car may also develop an exhaust leak at the CC, burn oil and have an acceleration hesitation issue. These things are all also covered under warranty, or should be, up to I believe 70K miles.

Oh wait, you have 100K miles? Jeez, where'd the guy drive to?Sorry, you're burnt! Did ya get the extended warranty?I didn't and am scrambling to get as many things fixed under the standard warranty as possible, before it runs out next September.

Good luck. Welcome. And Enjoy!

seat belt lifetime warranty apply to a 1995, I assume ?? mine retract sooo slowly and there is some wear on the drivers belt from the rollers..

[xerexabante]

i believe so.

[brymax]

Yeah, I don't know about which years exactly, but my understanding is that it really comes down to the fact that this is a safety issue / warranty item.

As a manufacturer, you simply can't have something come straight out of the plant that is faulty and could result in a death. It really comes down to money and liability.

It's like an airbag not working, right? They simply wouldn't let that not work.

Reason being they can't ever let anyone say, "Well, it wasn't covered under warranty and I didn't get it fixed cuz I didn't have the dough. The following week I was in an accident and my black, female, lesbian, retarded grandma who lost an arm back in the war, died in the car on the way to the hospital to donate her kidney to the current nobel peace prize nominee. All cuz the seat belt didn't retract!

Too much liability. They just fix it.

Oh what, did I go too far? Yeah, tell me schizel like this don't happen in lawsuits these days, right? I'm from California baby. God damn lady-bugs have attorneys and sue people here. Ever heard of a bark bettle? They got an attorney and sued people and won.

Nobody ever wants to hear the truth. I don't care. I'm saying it anywho!

[gammer_ghn]

so anyone else notice that this guy hasnt come back in 4 dayss... lmfaooo i think its tooo late jk.. hope that never happens!!! its all you guys's faults! you guys scared him away... lol and "guys's" is not an actual word i know!

[totallyjacked]

No - I'm here - thanks for all the comments/advice (although it's kind of funny how you get WAY more than you asked for lol. Anyway, I think I'm screwed cause the seatbelt retracts fine but both front seatbelts whistle loud enough to hurt your ears - it's almost comical. There must be some metal roller or something inside the assembly that needs wd40 or somthing. Anyway, this car has a lot of other issues as well so I'll be asking a lot of questions if I can't find posts about them. Thanks for all your help!

[marksport]

I thought my car was the only one that had the "whistle".

[jpyles]

Mine do the same thing. I have a 03 w/ 24k miles. I pulled the side pillars off yesterday. The noise on mine is coming from where the beat touches the plastic guide at the top. It sounds just like metal squeak, but you can push the belt away from the plastic guide and it stops. I am going to try a little Vaseline.

[brymax]

No - I'm here - thanks for all the comments/advice (although it's kind of funny how you get WAY more than you asked for lol. Anyway, I think I'm screwed cause the seatbelt retracts fine but both front seatbelts whistle loud enough to hurt your ears - it's almost comical. There must be some metal roller or something inside the assembly that needs wd40 or somthing. Anyway, this car has a lot of other issues as well so I'll be asking a lot of questions if I can't find posts about them. Thanks for all your help!

Are ya sure they "Retract just fine"?

Perhaps you need to take another look at them. Know what I'm saying?

Look, ya go to the dealer and ya say sometimes it retracts and sometimes it doesn't. Use phrases like "Fear for my SAFETY" and other liability related keywords. You'll be fine.

[totallyjacked]

Thanks guys for all the help. Jpyles - how are you going to do that without getting vaseline all over the belt and on your clothes when you use it??

[Q451990]

Yeah... I really don't think greazing the "D-ring" is a great idea.

Heath

[jpyles]

I'm just going to put a little dot with the belt out where it normally goes. Just enough so it will just be on the part of the belt I dont use. Unless I blow up to about 350Lbs, then no worries.That is the only idea I have so far, but am open for more options.

[totallyjacked]

Had the car to the dealership - they said they can't fix it under warranty because it's "just a noise".

[totallyjacked]

Just as a followup I finally fixed this after taking to 3 different places that said they couldn't fix it without replacing the entire seatbelt assembly. What I did was gently work a piece of masking tape down between the sharp edge of the guide (a few inches below were you can see the seatbelt coming out) and left it there. So now the belt rubs against the non-sticky side of the tape instead of the plastic itself. It worked for both front seatbelts
Modified by totallyjacked at 1:50 PM 3/8/2008