Which is lighter?

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NismoRTuneS13
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Does anyone know which s13 coupe is lighter between a base model coupe and a SE with a sunroof delete? I know a base model is lighter from the start but im wondering if a se would be lighter once the sunroof is deleted with a carbon fiber piece, since there will be less metal as opposed to a full metal roof like the base model. I will be replacing my power windows with manual ones also. I know the base model has a support that run down the center of the roof which the se does not have.


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That support in the middle doesn't weigh more than two pounds. It's pretty thin metal.

Wear fewer clothes and shave your head when you drive :bigthumb:

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zachattack_5491 wrote:Wear fewer clothes and shave your head when you drive :bigthumb:
+1 Don't forget to poop before hand too! :)

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Better yet go naked. :chuckle: But seriously, you probably shouldnt be too worried about the difference, i would imagine that if you take the power doors off and use manual ones the weight is about the same.

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if your so worried about weight look at this
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240 ... _Reduction

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why not just add power?

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bersh240 wrote:why not just add power?
cause that ain't cheap!! :slap:

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martins_240sx wrote:if your so worried about weight look at this
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240 ... _Reduction
Not worried about anything, just wondering which would be lighter between the two. I already know it takes hundreds of pounds to make a difference that you can see. Just seeing who knows the answer.

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the answer to your question is they are prolly the same weight. theses cars were manufactured nearly 20 years ago. the weight differences if you look on the manufacturing line has nearly 80lb window between car to car. this is pointless. you might as well have asked if the cars with a hud are heavier or if i fill my tires with hellium will i float.

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drive naked, shave entire body, become bulimic, remove everything you dont need: doors, hood, fenders, trunk, all carpet, seats( use a plastic lawn chair, with legs cut down), seatbelts, ac, radiator (air cooled, is cool enough... right?), brakes, headlights, turn signals, radio and finally grab a good drill and a holesaw, you are going to make your 240 into swiss cheese. this is how to achieve maximum weight reduction!

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martins_240sx wrote:the answer to your question is they are prolly the same weight. theses cars were manufactured nearly 20 years ago. the weight differences if you look on the manufacturing line has nearly 80lb window between car to car. this is pointless. you might as well have asked if the cars with a hud are heavier or if i fill my tires with hellium will i float.
your "prolly the same weight" answer would have been enough... i didnt mean to upset you. keep in mind this is a public forum where questions are asked. Never seen that question asked before so i asked. And asking if filling your tires with helium will make you float is far from the question i asked.. my question must have not been too "pointless" for you to take the time and answer it. Maybe we need more "whats the difference between black top and red top questions....

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what does a few pounds really matter anyway? you asked a "pointless" question and really, everyone except me gave you a pretty decent answer.

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I gave you a great reference. but like darens13 said, and me. pointless amount of weight. from my understanding its usaully about 100lbs to eliminate one tenth a second on a 1/4 mile. this difference in weight would be unmeasureable in reference to time. I do apologize for taking this so retarded. the fact of this matter is how you put it " keep in mind this is a public forum where questions are asked" you can also get a publicly answered question that may not be the one you want. and the differences between those engines would be a great question to ask. considering it actually has pertinent differences. thats why its been asked so many times. but like i said I apologize for flaming you.

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martins_240sx wrote:I gave you a great reference. but like darens13 said, and me. pointless amount of weight. from my understanding its usaully about 100lbs to eliminate one tenth a second on a 1/4 mile. this difference in weight would be unmeasureable in reference to time. I do apologize for taking this so retarded. the fact of this matter is how you put it " keep in mind this is a public forum where questions are asked" you can also get a publicly answered question that may not be the one you want. and the differences between those engines would be a great question to ask. considering it actually has pertinent differences. thats why its been asked so many times. but like i said I apologize for flaming you.
I do appreciate the answers from you and everyone else. im not taking the answers in any negative way at all. If it was a pointless question i do apologize because i also hate seeing the same question over and over again. The reason why i asked was because once i removed my sunroof, i was surprised at how heavy it was. I know that base models are lighter because they have no sun roof but i was told a base model is still lighter due to more reinforcement supports found on the SE. And i have seen the support reinforcement on base models that SE's do not have so i was curious if there is a weight difference whether it be large or small. Im not looking to be super light, im running full interior and xxr 18x10.5's so weight is not a issue to me.

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bersh240 wrote:why not just add power?
I used to be all preoccupied with being lightweight too. But the Z32 guys persuaded me to this line of thinking too. Reduce weight sensibly, but you don't need to go crazy over it. At least for a car that sees mostly street duty.

1hp for every 100lbs of weight is usually enough to feel pretty quick by most ppl's standards.

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simmode1 wrote:1hp for every 100lbs of weight is usually enough to feel pretty quick by most ppl's standards.
28HP is not very fast. :gapteeth:

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Lol... typo! Or bad math... take your pick! It's supposed to be 100hp for every 1000lbs...

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doesnt matter...sunroofs suck. and so do those carbon deletes.
go for one with no sunroof in the first place. and the weight diff between the 2 is small enough to not even care.

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pj wrote: go for one with no sunroof in the first place. and the weight diff between the 2 is small enough to not even care.
But popped sun roof is good style. :cool:

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NismoRTuneS13 wrote:I will be replacing my power windows with manual ones also. I know the base model has a support that run down the center of the roof which the se does not have.
replacing your power windows with manual windows? lol might as well take out a few floor mats while your at it.....


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