Which is better G37 sport with 6mt or G37 AWD with at

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G37 Boy
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Hello i am wondering which is better for all around racing. I realize that the sport g37 has the manual and is considered sport but does not have awd, in my experience awd is faster. But does anyone now which is better for racing. i plan on keepng the car a while and will do major upgrades i.e. twin turbo, wide body kit, a whole interior racing set up and everything. is the sport/6mt better for this heavy modification or would an awd with paddle shifters make up the difference. Need some knowledge and experience in the business to give me a thorough answer of the positives and negatives. Thanks G37 BOY


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Go out and test drive them both! AWD will give the car an ability to grip the road better than a RWD model....

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tigersharkdude
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are you really going to buy a brand new G37 and turn it into a race car? Why not a G35

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One problem with the rear drive G37 is that it doesn't have very good traction. I was taught "in slow, out fast" for corners which means to accelerate through them. This doesn't work with the G37. If I try to apply very much power, the VHS slip light starts flashing. At times, VHS has cut engine power in the middle of a corner. In case the VHS nanny was being over protective, I experimented with it turned off and learned that the back end comes out very quickly. Conclusion: you can't apply much power in a corner. The all wheel drive models may be able to do better. It will depend on whether VHS will redistribute power in addition to using selective braking and power reduction.

Will you be drag racing? All wheel drive works better than two wheel drive when you accelerate hard from a stop. This isn't an issue in road racing.

The all wheel drive cars will be a little slower because of the weight of the extra hardware. The improved traction may offset this by letting you use more power in corners.

I don't know which is stronger, the manual transmission and clutch or the automatic, or whether the automatic is significantly less efficient than the manual.

G37 Boy
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Yes i wish there was an awd with a manual. I am not going to buy i brand new one and to be honest, it will be about five years before i get one so idk what will change in the future. I have a nissan altima which i plan on driving for a little more. I am just sick of spinning out on the gay front wheel drive and i am a racer and love to go fast so i want to do that in my next car. Is the g37 my best bet or would a 350 or370z be better? unfortunately this is where i lack the car knowledge but if i get a g37 it will have a twin turbo on it so its gonna have lots of power and its going on a diet and being replaced with a lot of carbon fiber. Looking forward to you answers. Thanks and for tigersharkdude. the g37 has more power than the g35

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soul_hfk
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out of the 35 and 37 you will get more modded hp out of the 37 then the 35

G37 Boy
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yes that is why i want the g37

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G37 is too heavy for racing.. I think 370z is more racing car than G37..

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Ok the other option i was thinking about is a subaru wrx STI cause they can handle so much, is that better than both cars or should i stick with the 370Z

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Here is the 370z vs other cars.. But I don't know about those drivers.:)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAE2gY2Dfb0

I think EVO is faster than STI..

370z w/ turbo.. it will be hard to beat... I think.. :gapteeth:

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First of all, the G series is a luxury sport coupe. NOT a race car. Can it be made into one? Yes. Will it be very expensive to do so? Yes.

Second, I have yet to see anyone twin turbo the AWD system on a G. I'm sure it's been done, but I'm not sure how much beefing up the trans had to go through. Putting down 450-600 hp through an automatic to 4 wheels seems like a lot to ask. Maybe it's just me.

Third, AWD cars are NEVER meant to be launched. They can be modified to take it, but realistically you're not supposed to put down ridiculous power to all 4 wheels from a stand still. It's asking for pieces to break.

Fourth, the STi or Evo would be a much better platform to make a race car out of. I'm not really sure what's going to be available in 5 years, but both cars were designed for racing. The G series was made so that you could drive past a club with an empty car and end up with 3 women as you drove away.


The Evo engine can be murdered to death and still "reliably" put down 600 awhp. The VQ engines don't take kindly to that kind of power without a lot of engine work.


As for the rear wanting to "step out" with VHS (VDC last I checked...). A 1.5 way helical LSD would help that situation improve a lot. So would wider tires and stiffer sidewalls (or larger wheels for less of a sidewall). Throw some beefier sways and coilovers and now the rear doesn't snap as easily or as unpredictable.

We've got to remember. The G series was meant to be comfortable on the freeway and in the city. Not bumpy and harsh (my evo is a touch harsh over uneven pavement).

Also, before spending 30k to make a race car (which you shouldn't be daily driving...). Go do some extensive driving in RWD and AWD cars. Having owned a modified FWD, a lightly modded high powered RWD car, and 2 high powered AWD cars, I can tell you that each has it's benefits and it's draw backs.

From the perspective of an inexperienced "racer", the FWD car will be more forgiving in turns as understeer can usually be combatted with some steering and throttle input.

The ability to make the rear "step out" on a RWD car can be used to your advantage with a little power sliding. On the flip side, oversteer is (IMO) much more difficult to combat without some good drifting background.

AWD...what to say about AWD. It handles better. But some of the characteristics of FWD and RWD that make them awesome are that in racing, two wheels can lose traction in a positive manner. In an AWD car, all 4 wheels pretty much break loose at the same time.

Granted, all of these opinions come from a mild-moderately experienced driver. I'm sure that with the proper suspension set up and the right driver, the AWD and RWD would be the only two options on the table and the majority would choose AWD.


Done with the book...back to work ;)

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GOT IT!!! wait for the 2012 BOSS 302 !!! :woot:
(this will be a track car not a straight line car)

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zozoka1212
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Second generation G can put down with turbo setup over 500 hp. Stock internals and transmission.

I still think the G is not for race. Cobalt SS can beat the G. LOL

g37man
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Spend the money get a GT-R and your racing days will be filled with more pleasure and you will
have a street machine to drive around to pick up woman,best of both worlds.

Think about it twin turbo's
AWD
unlimited potential


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