Which HID's are ricey for a Platinum M35?

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Hello all. I'm putting my car together getting it ready for the spring. Getting my rims and aero kit painted etc...

The last step is changing the HIDs for the low beam and the fogs. I'm looking at XenonDepot.com as I've heard nothing but good about their kits, however I'm trying to decide between 5000k or 6000k bulbs. I'm thinking 5000k won't be that big of a difference between 4300k to jusify the cost, but 6000k might be a bit too ricey looking especially on a SILVER car? Anybody have any opinions to make this easier? :ohno:

Pics would be greatly appreciated!!! :cool:


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You have it all wrong, but that's okay. I'll do my best to help you out.

Anything over 6000k is junk. Why? Let me explain:

The most natural light in our world is the sun, which around 4000k. This is the most 'natural light' which is why most manufacturer OEM bulbs are 4300k. The further you go from this number (either higher or lower), the less lumens you get (or usable light). On the low end, 3000k is probably the lowest you can go and get good light, and on the high end 6000k is the same. Anything below or above those numbers are you are basically just wasting money. If you get 10000k bulbs, they'll look bright to the eye but good luck driving in the rain; you'll be blind and won't see jack.

Also, while 4300k HID bulbs might look like halogen bulbs, they are 10x stronger and thus more bright. Again, lumens.

That being said, you have two options for wattage; 35w and 50/55w. The difference is just how much 'power' the ballast puts out. Keep in mind that if you go for the higher wattage, it washes out the bulbs color. So...a 55w 6000k bulb looks more like a 35w 5000k bulb. Rule of thumb is subtract 1000k.

My recommendation is to do one of the following setups:

Option 1: 55W 6000k Low Beam, 35W 3000k fog lights
Option 2: 55W 6000k Low Beam, 35w 4300k fog lights
Option 3: 35W 6000k Low Beam, 35w 6000k fog lights

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Umm lol is that reply ^^ to this thread? You didn't address my question. All I asked was opinion between 5000k and 6000k temperature for my color car. (Platinum Metallic)

I've known the lumens drop as you go higher in temperature since I bought my first set of HID's 10+ years ago for $500 but I didn't ask about lumens??? :gotme

Thanks for your reply regardless... much appreciated!!! :gapteeth:

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^ it depends on what you want -- clear/bright white(5K) or slightly more 'bluish' light (6K). In terms of 'ricey' that only happens if someone where to go with a low quality xenon bulb and/or 8K and up... In my opinion, since the M is a luxury sedan, I wanted a clean look that also is functional for driving. I went with the Morimoto HID bulbs (5500K) and I couldn't be any happier with the price and performance. I went to TheRetroFitSource.

6K xenon bulbs look great, but make sure it's a quality bulb.

I did a write up in this thread (page 7 or last page)...My M is Diamond Graphite and I think the color combo works well.

post6623848.html?hilit=HID%20headlights#p6623848

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Brian35XR wrote:Umm lol is that reply ^^ to this thread? You didn't address my question. All I asked was opinion between 5000k and 6000k temperature for my color car. (Platinum Metallic)

I've known the lumens drop as you go higher in temperature since I bought my first set of HID's 10+ years ago for $500 but I didn't ask about lumens??? :gotme

Thanks for your reply regardless... much appreciated!!! :gapteeth:
Actually, I was responding to this:
Brian35XR wrote:I'm thinking 5000k won't be that big of a difference between 4300k to jusify the cost
It's a HUGE difference not only in lumens (light output) but also looks (has a small hint of blue to it although mostly white - this is answering your question without specifically answering your question). The rest is your preference. You can't go wrong with either 5000k or 6000k...

Also, the post for anyone else who might read your thread. FYI. NICO is one of the biggest forums in the US, we have people clicking our threads that aren't necessarily owners of Nissan/Infiniti products (while Googling).

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....anything over 6000k, has a blue, purple, red tint to it.
Fogs should always be yellow IMHO....

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Aside from the excellent info provided by Ilya, let me add this. You asked about bulbs that might look "ricey" which I assume means cheap, or funky? The color of your car has nothing to do with bulbs, so I don't get what you're on about there. The actual headlamps themselves are what gives a car a high-end look or a wanna-be look. As stated above, you want to stay between 4,500 and 6,000 kelvin for the color. These bulbs will look high-end and avoid the 'cheap auto parts look alike' colors.
The best bulb on the market (in my opinion) is the Osram 66240 Xenarc CBI (cool blue intense). I am on my second M and installed these bulbs on both cars. They provide an extremely wide beam and throw light farther ahead than most other brands. There is a night video in my sig taken with my old M driving in low lighted areas and also on the motorway to show the effects under different conditions. Give it a go and you will see the difference they make.
What Ilya was explaining in his reply DID answer your question and also provided a great explanation of why bulbs do and do not look "ricey" as you described. It's a matter of kelvin (color) and lumens (brightness). The CBI bulbs are 5000 kelvin, but throw a bright white sunlight color only found in the finest quality bulbs. No need to replace the factory ballasts either.
In short, the CBI's will NOT have that cheap blue tint of wanna-be HIDs, and still provide a long reach and wider beam than any other bulb. They are called 'cool blue intense' but there really isn't any blue hue - just pure daylight like the new Mercedes.

*** Beware though: about 80% of the dealers on Ebay, Craigs, and Amazon are selling knock-offs that are expertly crafted to look like the real brand name stuff. (not my opinion, but confirmed factual results). Be sure you buy from a reputable place. I recommend The Retrofit Source. They are one of only a few retailers who actually get the bulbs right from the factory instead of a wholesaler. Any brand bulb you get from them will be the legitimate bulb and not a knock-off.
Here is the link for the CBI bulbs:
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/compon ... QG0YXzF9bI

You didn't ask about color for fogs, but 3,000k is the best for cutting through inclement weather and fog. Many people use the fog lights like an extra pair of headlamps (dunno why coz they only light a short area in front of the car and are aimed low towards the road making them useless for vision at night). Just know that the higher the kelvin, the less cutting through fog and the more distortion in vision when needed for foggy or rainy conditions.

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As a side note, I also run the Osram bulbs mentioned above on my 2011 M56.


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