where to gete a lsd?

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br2819
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i think for my first mod for my 240 is going to be a lsd. i have an s13 and i was wondering if i should buy a used one or a new one? also how much they would cost.thanks


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Personally I would go new. I am trying to go for the JDM look too, stickers. A lsd from Kaaz will cost you around $900.

Night
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try this http://www.rivergate5speed.com/phantom_grip.html nevermind they use to sell them for are cars now they dont sorry

boMex
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All the Canadian 240sx came with a LSD. Finding one from a canuck junkyard might be pretty cheap.

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Heh, you just called your fellow citizens and yourself canucks.... : )

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It doesn't exactly destroy us when we get called canucks ya know... :)

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Yeah, you're probably used to it by now.

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Night wrote:try this http://www.rivergate5speed.com/phantom_grip.html nevermind they use to sell them for are cars now they dont sorry
I remember reading that Phantom Grips were manly useful for drag racing. I think they work on a twin plate design.

Maybe that is why they stopped making them for the 240?

maxpsi
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I can get the Viscous LSD for about $550 plus shipping. Thats with my wholesale license.

br2819
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how reliable is a used lsd?

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maxpsi wrote:I can get the Viscous LSD for about $550 plus shipping. Thats with my wholesale license.
Is that new from Nissan? Plug and play?

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StanBo wrote:
Is that new from Nissan? Plug and play?
ttt

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maxpsi wrote:I can get the Viscous LSD for about $550 plus shipping. Thats with my wholesale license.
Wow, I got mine for $250 shipped to my door. Came from an Arkansas salvage yard with less than 30,000 miles on it =) I found mine by going to http://www.junkyarddog.com I got like 6 or 7 different replies from real people ( half of the replies you get are automated emails to call this and that and blah blah blah) and none of them were over $350. That's what I would suggest. Make sure that if they are getting one off a J30, that you get a late model 95 or a 96. Those are the ones with the three sets of 2 bolts on the output shafts rather than a 5 bolt pattern.

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How can you tell if you have a VLSD? I have a 95 Se, but i think i heard not all of them come with a VLSD

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Easiest way, do a burn out, if you spin one tire you have open diff, if you spin both, you have LSD. Also, you can jack the rear end of the car up so the tires aren't touching the ground. Spin one wheel. If the other side spins the same way you have LSD, if it spins the opposite way, you have open diff. If the other doesn't spin at all, you have a problem =).

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Minclo wrote:How can you tell if you have a VLSD? I have a 95 Se, but i think i heard not all of them come with a VLSD
From what I know they were packaged together with ABS. Do you have ABS?

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They aren't ALWAYS packaged together unfortunately. : (

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Stnabro: Thats not accurate. Even cars that dont have a Vlsd can do a 2 wheel burnout. The only accurate way to tell is to jack up the whole back end and turn one tire toward the front. At the same time look at the other wheel to see if its turning in the same direction. If it does, then you have an LSD, if its doesnt then... This method of telling will usually only work if you have been driving the car long enough to warm up. Many LSDs will only work when they are warm. It takes time for the LSD Fluid inside to heat up and expand causing the LSD effect. Many 240 LSDs will work regardless of temperature.

Used LSDs i guess would be fine. Change the fluid though and maybe the seals.

Mine came stock in the 96.

In my 92, i bought a new one for $550. (plug and play)

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Open diff cars can spin both tires during a burnout, but more than likely they won't. Especially a rear-drive car. Before I got LSD, the open diff would not give me more than one-wheel-wonders when doing a burnout. Maybe a short patch of two black marks (and I mean SHORT), but no more than that.

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We've had this argument before. I can tell you that in theory there is no way that an open diff can burn two strips for more than a few inches. There is a certain amount of internal friction that can allow both tires to be powered as the spider gear does it's job. And also, the drive wheel can shift from left to right depending on traction.. creating the 2 almost complete strips... but people still insist that their open diff lays two HUGE strips during burn out. I'll believe it when I see it! The ONLY reliable way to tell if it is a VLSD is to reference the vehicle ID code on the firewall passenger side. Go to 240sx.org and there is a write up on the FAQ or history section... it will tell you how to find out. Then again... somebody may have swapped rear-ends already.. Just for the record, any of those manual tests of spinning the tires can show a false negative result for VLSD. Since it uses a liquid to lock the output shafts.. it requires a certain amount of spinning to heat it up, and create the positive lock. So if you jack up the car and start spinning your tires, it may seem as though you don't have VLSD, when infact you might.

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what lsd's are compatible to a 93 240sx se? i know that the later model 240's can use an lsd from late model infinity's......what should i look for?

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i got a crappy (not really, but still) SE. i got an auto, no ABS, no VLSD. none of the good stuff. makes me so mad.

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heh..at least i got a 5-spd :D how can you tell if you have ABS? if it's obvious to tell...i don't think i have it :(

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all i know is that both tires spin when i burn em... so aslong as they both spin im happy :)

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MasterMan wrote:all i know is that both tires spin when i burn em... so aslong as they both spin im happy :)
Well, that's nice and all, but the benefit of having VLSD isn't the spinning of tires to impress yourself or some fine ladies! The point of it is to NOT spin and have traction during take-off. But yeah.. it is nice to light 'em up now and again!

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Minclo wrote:heh..at least i got a 5-spd :D how can you tell if you have ABS? if it's obvious to tell...i don't think i have it :(
At the firewall, on the passenger side, near the rear of the intake manifold, mounted to the fender, behind the strut tower is a box that has several brake lines going in and coming out. Room is cut short to mount any kind of FMU there where most people who have turbo KAs mount theirs. if there is no box there, then you dont have it. Also, when turning the car to on, the ABS light should light up on the speedo.

br2819
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how much should it cost to put in a lsd in a 90 5 speed. i found some pretty cheap but if it is too much to put in i won't bother.

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Well, depending on the donor (what vehicle the diff comes out of) it can be as easy as a direct bolt-on. If you can find one cheap... get it... well worth any install hassles!

br2819
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i need to know how much so i can figure when i'm gonna get it cuz funds are low right now

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Well... you said you found some cheap.. so you already know how much it's going to cost!!! I'm just saying you should go with one from a 240.. then there is really no additional costs. If you do it yourself there is no labor charge. If you have to pay someone to do it... then you REALLY want it to be a direct swap.. because if not... mucho mucho labor hours!! Go to 240sx.org... the whole install is spelled out in plain English.


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