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jarred15801
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I did a search and came up with nothing that helped me out. Basically my question is where can i get lowering springs? I saw Eibach discontinued them but are there any places that still have them in stock? I dont want to spend $1500-2000 on coilovers either. Just looking for some springs for a reasonable price. Any information would be appreciated, also if anyone has some for sale let me know. Thanks


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Get ahold of Van at One Ton Garage:

http://www.onetongarage.com/index.html

He comes well-recommended by NICO members.

maxnix
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Van imported the KYB SR Special shocks, not the Tein springs. Might be a set or two on the Classified Infiniti Parts Forum. Some don't like them.

Kevin Falk imported the Tein springs, but wouldn't Wes' Espelir source have some for the FGY33?

eBay will occasionally have the Eibachs.
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jjbuzzman
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I have a new set of Eibach's in my basement that I could part with. Still unopened in the factory box. If interested, I could get the model numbers off the box - I think to fit 90-93 for sure, likely through 96. Also have Tokico Blues new in the box.

jarred15801
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jjbuzzman wrote:I have a new set of Eibach's in my basement that I could part with. Still unopened in the factory box. If interested, I could get the model numbers off the box - I think to fit 90-93 for sure, likely through 96. Also have Tokico Blues new in the box.
Will any of the ones you have fit my 1997? If so price?

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Those are for a G50 while he wants ones for a FGY33.

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gabe
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I put the Tein springs on my 98. I got them through Kevin Falk who got them overseas. I am going on memory here but I think it was like $380 to my door.

I also replaced struts/shocks with the KYB SR specials at the same time.

If you do this swap you will lose some of that smooth ride you are used to. Brick roads or train tracks will definitely have you checking your speed as they will bounce you around if you are going too fast.

On the positive side you can easily overtake other cars on the outside turn lane, less rising and diving of the front end under acceleration and braking, zero problems with scuffing front or back, and compared to intown driving, rural country roads and interstate travel is still pretty luxurious.

Gabe


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insurance makes springs for the y33 they are 280 w/o shipping also rs-r makes them too go to http://www.memoryfab.com/produ...ion_9/ but they are out of stock right now of the insurance ones but will have them in just in time for out tax refunds next month

jarred15801
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Does anybody have the insurance springs? or know any positive or negative things about them?

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jarred15801 wrote:Does anybody have the insurance springs? or know any positive or negative things about them?
Why not just comapare the data? They do publish it, don't they?
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jarred15801
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Compare what data? I was asking about personal experiences or opinions on that type of spring.

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jarred15801 wrote:Compare what data? I was asking about personal experiences or opinions on that type of spring.
Oh, of course! Feeeeellliiinnnnnggs.

What good is quantative data? Oh yeah, it can be absolute and comparable. What a dumb concept!

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send me an e-mail [email protected] and I can get you a line on the Tein Springs. I also have the KYB SR Specials and the Tein Springs on my car, converted to 19" M45 Sport Rims in 245/35 19 tires so it is rougher but it handles like a motha'.

I can help you with the springs, spend me e-mail.

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maxnix wrote:Oh, of course! Feeeeellliiinnnnnggs.

What good is quantative data? Oh yeah, it can be absolute and comparable. What a dumb concept!
I don't know if your trying to be an *** or what? because i don't even know what data your talking about? i was just asking if anyone had those springs and liked them? sorry, won't ask for any more opinions.

jarred15801
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BadQ45t wrote:send me an e-mail [email protected] and I can get you a line on the Tein Springs. I also have the KYB SR Specials and the Tein Springs on my car, converted to 19" M45 Sport Rims in 245/35 19 tires so it is rougher but it handles like a motha'.

I can help you with the springs, spend me e-mail.
it wouldn't let me send to your email?

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jarred15801 wrote: i don't even know what data your talking about?
You mean like spring rate and free and loaded height?

Here's a Pop Quiz: How do you determine which tires are appropriate for your car?

jarred15801
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maxnix wrote:You mean like spring rate and free and loaded height?

Here's a Pop Quiz: How do you determine which tires are appropriate for your car?
How am i supposed to know what that stuff means and what a good and bad number would be for those things? I'm clueless when it comes to spring rate and the rest of that stuff. If you told me my spring rate was 200,000 i'd say okay becasue i dont know what it is. so how could i possibly compare data when i don't even know where to start on the subject? and for the right tire for my car, i'd go with the number on the sidewall of the one i have. If i didnt want stock i'd get on the forum and find out what fits. sorry i dont understand the numbers for suspension and im just trying to learn some info. grow up and stop being an *** hole.

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That's why I like stock springs. Stock ride, stock height, no funny wear due to odd alignment angles... There are much more efficient ways of making the car look cool and handle better than lowering springs. Eibach does make nice products but it's kinda like lifting a new 3500 Diesel pickup-what was the accomplishment? Just be sure the spring kit you buy isn't chinsey because it's not worth potentially ruining a really nice rig like a Q45. It's the same with wheels. Not many people know or understand that factory wheels are desiged to place the vehicle weight on the hub rather than the lug studs. I mean, on the broad scheme it isn't a big deal, but just know when modding these things ride quality and possibly even the general tight-fit of the car can be compromised.

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I'm selling my used Tein Springs. Bought them brand new only a month ago. I've been riding on them for about a week. $320 shipped.

jarred15801
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Why you selling them allready? How much will they lower the car? How much are they brand new after shipping?

emoq45
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jarred15801 wrote:Why you selling them allready? How much will they lower the car? How much are they brand new after shipping?
I'm selling the car. The lower the car quite noticeably.


jarred15801
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Could you post some more pictures of your car with the springs on it. preferably one straight from the side. because im very interested. probably will be buying these off of you.

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FYI before you buy any springs I think you should get the truth about TEIN.

I was mislead to buy Tein springs that were not made for FGY33= 97-01 Q45 V8. The box said Y33 but it's made for Y33, My33 and PY33 = Gloria/Cedric=V6.

I've removed the TEIN less than 2 days because of noise issue and ride quality of honda with cut springs. So I ordered ESPELIR ESN149 and ride changed from night to day. TEIN springs fit but could not support the weight of the V8 without bump rubber resting on the struts. (ie:Riding on a bump rubber not the springs because there is no clearance for struts to move up & down.)

(ie This is exactly how it was with Tein installed in 97-01 Q45) http://www.espelir.co.jp/s.h.b.r.html

Tein USA even replied to me that they don't have the application for FGY33=V8 model because they never made one and they don't exist. Part number I checked with TEIN was SKN76-S2B00 and it clearly said CEDRIC/GLORIA on the chart.

Here is the proof. Check out if you can find the application for FGY33 from TEIN Japan site.http://www.tein.co.jp/search/s...ang=e

ESPELIR has the application for FGY33 (97-01 Q45) and they ride better than the EIBACH springs that I had before.http://www.espelir.co.jp/nissan/n%20cima.html

I'm giving you all the info for you to know to make the right move.

Remenber Y33 is not FGY33. Cedric/Gloria is not CIMA FGY33. V8 Q45(FGY33) is about 500lbs heavier than the V6 Cedric/Gloria (Y33.PY33, MY33)

For those people who claim that they have the TEIN springs application for FGY33/Q45 please do your research and advise me if I'm wrong. (According to my research in TEIN do not exist.)

I wish people who were selling the TEIN said Cedric/Gloria Y33 springs that fit's FGY33 rather than spring for FGY33/Q45. If some one have told me this I didn't had to wasted so much time & money to figure it out.


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audiovisiony33 wrote:FYI before you buy any springs I think you should get the truth about TEIN.

I was mislead to buy Tein springs that were not made for FGY33= 97-01 Q45 V8. The box said Y33 but it's made for Y33, My33 and PY33 = Gloria/Cedric=V6.

Tein even replied to me that they don't have the application for FGY33=V8 model because they never made one and they don't exist.

ESPELIR has the application for FGY33 (97-01 Q45) and they ride better than the EIBACH springs that I had before.http://www.espelir.co.jp/sp%20list%20nissan2.html

Remenber Y33 is not FGY33. Cedric/Gloria is not CIMA FGY33. V8 Q45(FGY33) is about 500lbs heavier than the V6 Cedric/Gloria (Y33.PY33, MY33)

I wish people who were selling the TEIN said Cedric/Gloria Y33 springs that fit's FGY33 rather than spring for FGY33/Q45. If some one have told me this I didn't had to wasted so much time & money to figure it out.
Well, I am certainly glad someone else reads Nissan product code sheets and doesn't rely on aftermarket parts suppliers as their Nissan model source. A Y33 is a very different car from a FGY33 or an FY33. The suspension design (less springs shocks, struts, and anti-sway bars specifications) is similar, but the tuning is not. I have pointedly discussed this when Falk was hawking his imported Teins as being correct for the FGY33, a model he didn't distinguish from a Y33, unlike Nissan.

By the way, on his current Far Away forum, besides extolling as a premier source of technical information, Falk derided Dennis as a nincompoop when Dennis observed that the tire patch area of contact was solely dependent on tire pressure and born weight, not tire size.

I would appreciate greater elucidation on the Espelir ride. With which shocks and struts and wheels and tires? In particular the difference (same setup?) from the Eibachs.

As Dennis has posted extensively, if one really wants to improve the dynamic performance of their car and the suspension is up to new OEM snuff, 90% of it is about tires. It is truly amazing how some owners buy schnizzle anchors for wheels, install skanky short springs, then buy the cheapest tire they can find an think they have improved their car's performance. But then for them, driveway looks and cartoons must be all they know about performance.
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audiovisiony33
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This is a photo of the first set of ESPELIR ESN-149 to immigrate to the state.

ESPELIR meets the retired EIBACH to take over the duty with new KYB SR.

ESPELIR ESN149 installes. Nice and tight fit.

ESPELIR ESN149 with car on the ground. Enough clearance and no springs sitting on top of each other to creating spring rubbing noise.

Here is the result after the installation of ESN-149 & KYB SR and Wheels are VOLK Racing SS (F) 245/45/18x8.5 (R)275/40/18X10I love the way it sits an inch lower than the EIBACH and improve the ride quality with more solid and responsive control. Thanks to One ton garage for supplying the right application KYB SR.

Ride quality as SMOOOOTH as stock


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So no alignment problems? My rear is at -2° now.

Shorter (1 less coil in front?) springs must mean a higher rate, so I have a difficult time believing they are smoother, but moreharsh in transition, as you noted. Took about 5K for my KYB to break in. Sure prefer it to stock fore and aft oscillation.

Do you have the larger rear sway bar?

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Go to http://www.memoryfab.com to get the insurance down. But it will take about 6-8 weeks to ship from japan.


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