stebo0728 wrote:Ok, you can read it that way I suppose, and I stand admonished for not noticing that myself. Still......I disagree with the action. I believe military service warrants special voting privileges.

bigbadberry3 wrote:Military does deserve special privelegs but doesn't mean that some civilian privelges can't be improved.

Washington Post wrote:Let’s start in the summer of 2011, when Republican Gov. John Kasich signed a bill that placed new restrictions on early voting and absentee ballots. Democrats, who rely heavily on absentee programs and early votes, fought the law and in September 2011 submitted enough petition signatures to put it on hold and trigger a direct referendum on the law’s future.

Republicans were worried that a direct referendum on the law that most Democratic voters were likely to oppose would galvanize them to flock to the polls in greater numbers come November., aiding Obama and Democrats up and down the ballot. So Kasich signed a bill in May reversing the law.

However, the repeal also reaffirmed a change that ended early voting three days before Election Day. But not everyone is prevented from voting during the final three days leading up to Nov. 6. Members of the military can vote during that window.

Last month, the Obama campaign, the Ohio Democratic Party and the Democratic National Committee fought the provision by filing a lawsuit arguing that allowing military voters to cast ballots during the 72 hours leading up to Election Day but barring other voters from doing so creates inequality and violates constitutional protections.

But the Obama campaign and its Democratic allies were not alone in taking legal action. Fifteen military groups filed to intervene in the lawsuit, opposing the Obama campaign’s position. The groups’ main concern is preserving electoral protections provided to military voters.

That brings us to last Sunday, when the Romney campaign issued a memo saying (in part) of the Kasich-signed law that it “is not only constitutional, but commendable that the Ohio legislature granted military voters and their families this accommodation.” The Romney campaign added that “it is despicable for the Obama campaign to challenge Ohio’s lawful decision.”

telcoman wrote:Many individual states have not done a very good job in insuring everyone gets to vote.
States attempting to restrict voting under the guise of voter fraud where there has been little to none should be restricted by federal law.

Not only should early voting be allowed by mail and electronic means, polls should also be open from Friday thru Tuesday 6AM to midnight on the first weekend in November to allow everyone a chance to vote.

Telcoman

IBCoupe wrote:....

telcoman wrote:Many individual states have not done a very good job in insuring everyone gets to vote.

telcoman wrote:Not only should early voting be allowed by mail and electronic means, polls should also be open from Friday thru Tuesday 6AM to midnight on the first weekend in November to allow everyone a chance to vote.

stebo0728 wrote:Why even offer the option in the lawsuit to have the military early vote ended? Why not keep it simple, and just say NO to ending the other early voting? That half is what I'm referring to as "seemingly" self serving. It doesn't help the left's position with their military constituency.

stebo0728 wrote:Well, Ill default to you're legal expertise on the matter. Still, the left has a notoriously negative rating with military personnel. Whether unavoidable or not, this certainly does not help that rating.

IBCoupe wrote: Only because people on the right are too willing to blatantly lie or believe blatant lies about the left.

stebo0728 wrote:The left is intentionally perpetrating a lie that current seniors would lose under this plan. 65% of people 55 and older vote religiously. That's a large target audience to scare to the polls.

stebo0728 wrote:Under the current system, people 55 and under aren't projected to have Medicare anyway! The bit above about ", just the medicine your kids and grandkids will someday need." what Ryan's plan does is seeks to reform the system so that "kids and grandkids" won't lose benefits.

IBCoupe wrote: I think you're stretching the truth by predicting the death of medicare within a decade or so. Regardless, that's not what a voucher plan would do. It would say, "Kids and grandkids, here's a check to use on health insurance plans that don't exist and have no earthly reason to exist in a market full of rational businessfolk."

IBCoupe wrote:Social Security is not an investment. That's not how it works.

IBCoupe wrote:Then they expected wrong. That's not how Social Security works. You don't have a Social Security account someplace with the cash you've paid in Social Security taxes.

They were right to expect to get paid by Social Security in the future, but wrong to expect that it had anything to do with the money they paid. That's simply not how the program works.

stebo0728 wrote:That's not how the program works NOW. But that was it's original intent.