Wheels.. To fit or not to fit?

[Ziggy1621]

I'm getting some wheels for free, but the anxiety is killing me whether they will fit. On a 92TT, can I fit the following scenario... Let's start with, they will have 25mm conversion spacers from 5x114.3 to 5x120. Don't hate... They are sweet looking wheels for free

Front..........
19x8.5 +30mm with 245/35/19

Rear............
19x9.5 +33mm with 275/30/19

Stock height. So the question is can I turn? I'm sure I'll have to roll the fenders, but that's fine..l thanks in advance

[Z-owned]

So let me get this straight with the 25mm spacer they will be

19x8.5 +5

&

19x9.5 +8

?

Have fun with that...

[ArticDragon192]

It's going to take more than a roll to make them not rub. And at stock height, those offsets will look lowrider status, haha

[Ziggy1621]

Funny how peeps always have to try to be a comedian when they're helping others out

Low rider look I can handle. Rubbing at full lock I can handle. I have heard that Adaptec can custom make a 15mm adapter which would save me 10mm. You guys think that would help them tuck?

[canadian booster]

if they're free with rubber an alternative might be to craigslist them and get some 17" or 18" with a tighter fit from somewhere else with the $$

[Ziggy1621]

Looks like that's the way to go as I was wrong on the front offset... It's +18 thanks

[ArticDragon192]

You'll still need to modify your fenders possibly. And it'll still stick out a lot at stock height if you're running stock camber.

[MR_RICK]

Funny how peeps always have to try to be a comedian when they're helping others out

Low rider look I can handle. Rubbing at full lock I can handle. I have heard that Adaptec can custom make a 15mm adapter which would save me 10mm. You guys think that would help them tuck?

15mm spacer will make them stick out more. Just see about getting them redrilled and they will fit fine.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Redrilling is a terrible idea. Here's a good idea: get wheels that fit the Z.

[Ziggy1621]

Redrilling is a terrible idea. Here's a good idea: get wheels that fit the Z.

Why does everyone have to be a smart A? I've done a ton of research and there are no bad reviews of redrilling from people who have actually done it.. only from people who have not.

I'm guessing that people look at how many posts you have made to this site, and try to judge based upon that how 'smart' someone is when it comes to cars... not figuring in they might have been working on cars for the past 14 years. Thanks for the opinions guys, next time please give me Educated answers as that is what I'm looking for.. and so is every other person here who is new to a Z

[vulcanrush]

I'm guessing that people look at how many posts you have made to this site, and try to judge based upon that how 'smart' someone is when it comes to cars.

how did you get that impression? i don't think anybody judges you based on your post count.

i think the answers were pretty educated, but see how it works out for you.

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Here's a good idea: get wheels that fit the Z.

Redrilling wheels is a last resort. IMHO. Get them for free, CL them, get wheels that fit. The 5x114.3mm bolt pattern is one of the most popular, there are literally thousands of options.

[Ziggy1621]

I know, and I would, but my father in law is giving them rather than selling them. I would feel a bit of a cheat if I just sold them. Plus, I will have a look that no one else has

[BigTDogg (MA)]

a +18mm with any 10mm or larger spacer just won't fit, unless you do a wide body, a ridiculous pull, or run 205 honda tires.

I'm not being a d!ck, I'm just trying to save you some headache.

[Ziggy1621]

Yeah, I lost that battle with the calculator. But I have found a company in Orlando who drills and presses to change the bot pattern, so thats what I'm leaning toward. Thanks!

[BigTDogg (MA)]

Yeah, I lost that battle with the calculator. But I have found a company in Orlando who drills and presses to change the bot pattern, so thats what I'm leaning toward. Thanks!

The best way to do it would be on a mill with a rotary table and a hub centering device. That would at least ensure the pattern is centered around the hub. Hopefully they know what they're doing.

Pics of the wheels BTW

[Ziggy1621]

Yup, they have good reviews from other guys with z32s who had them redrilled... http://olympitsrimsrepair.com/

They are the BMW style 172 off a 550i http://www.bimmerfest.com/photos/data/500/172_side.jpg

[TTkickedin]

I need to come to nico more often. This thread had lulzy potential.

The wheels won't fit without serious work to the fenders. 19 inch wheels are meant probably from the car it came from because they can fit that car.
Just tell whoever gave them to you thanks but don't fit, and pass. It's gonna take a lot more money to fit them rather getting wheels that fit. flaring would be required, not a diy project... which also means new paint job, so would be new tires, since u have to stretch them. And new brakes with all that unnecessary rotational mass. The diameter of the wheels will make your Speedo read incorrectly.

Just trying to make you aware that this would generally be considered one of those bad ideas you shouldn't be happy that you tried to do on a budget. Make your life easy and get better fitting wheels op.

[Ziggy1621]

I appreciate your concerns, but New tires was planned, new brakes is not going to be necessary because the overall diameter is hardly changing. Rolling the fenders and a paint job are planned... but I've been doing body work since I was 14, so not worried And I have a 4x4 diesel with 35 inch tires. Even tho I can change the tire size via a chip, they still wear down, and so I'm use to the speedo reading wrong. For the tires I'm getting, I think the difference was around 4 mph at 60... nothing to worry about.

[TTkickedin]

Redrilling is a terrible idea. Here's a good idea: get wheels that fit the Z.

QFT.

What I don't understand is, you seem to have the answers you were looking for, why even ask the question in the first place? If you don't like to hear that your idea is pointless, i don't know what to tell you except that you must consider the fact that those wheels wont be free after all the work is done to make them fit.

- You seem to not think that you need new brakes when adding unnecessary unsprung weight and a larger diameter wheel that should not even belong on a 300zx, (which I know from experience you need to do. I've been there with another car, the difference was a 2 inch larger diameter wheel, and a lot longer braking distance. I'd estimate a good 15-45 feet more depending on actual speed...much farther than what's considered adequate braking distance.) YES, upgraded brakes are necessary.

Do they fit? Yeah, even 40 inch dubs would with enough work. Nothing to worry about though.

You come to Nico for advice, this is mine. There's no rules against busting someones balls over a stupid idea (and believe me, it's not because we want 19's and are jealous that you're doing it. the idea is just dumb.) After all is said and done, it would be a better look with 18's, plain and simple. Do that, watch how many haters you don't have. lol..

[TTkickedin]

You will need to flare your fenders with those offsets and at that diameter, not roll your fenders, big difference. Fender rolling is for wheels that fit. Your wheels do not without modifications the other members and I have posted. We've seen this sort of thing before, and someone here's been there before...and you're asking us because you know that we have these answers for you, but you didn't like to hear the answers.


Redrilling IS a bad idea. Looks like crap. This doesn't even need a review.



Soo, what's this tin foil hat post-count conspiracy you speak of? Enlighten me, I'm a bit confused.

[Ziggy1621]

I'm definitely here for the advice. I'm just shooting down what makes no sense. Like for instance the brakes. The outer diameter of the tire for stock is just a hair under 25", with the right tires (3.5" sidewall) I can get the outter of the 19 to 26. I do not see how one inch is going to bring the need to get bigger brakes?

As far as that image, that person obviously did that in their back yard, and didn't account hub bore size in.. Thanks

[ArticDragon192]

Redrilling IS a bad idea. Looks like crap. This doesn't even need a review.



Soo, what's this tin foil hat post-count conspiracy you speak of? Enlighten me, I'm a bit confused.

You don't know how redrilling works do you?



It totally looks like crap, lol. All they do is drill an offset hole and press in a new insert. You'd be surprised at how many wheels come this way. SSR does this for their BMW wheels, and Honda drills and inserts ballseat inserts into their OEM wheels.
I've tracked on redrilled wheels as well without issue and daily driven on them as well, for extended periods of time.

[TTkickedin]

One would assume, since the op is trying to fit free wheels, that he wouldn't pay to get it done right.

Paying to get it done right would likely outweigh the cost of getting wheels that fit (after all other costs are factored in as one total)

But those do, definitely look like crap. The redrills I posted

[BigTDogg (MA)]

You also posted a 5 to 4 redrill. I guess a 5 to 5 could be done easier.

[Ziggy1621]

One would assume, since the op is trying to fit free wheels, that he wouldn't pay to get it done right.

Paying to get it done right would likely outweigh the cost of getting wheels that fit (after all other costs are factored in as one total)

But those do, definitely look like crap. The redrills I posted

Uh.... Just because I'm getting free wheels, doesn't mean I'm an idiot.... And you obviously haven't checked prices on redrills. There is a reputable company in Orlando who does it for $50 per wheel. There are good reviews of them in this forum

[TTkickedin]

Op,

"after all costs are considered" the wheels will probably cost more than wheels that fit. No matter how you swing it. 200 plus shipping if you don't live near them? If you do, then 200. Then, custom wheel spacers if u don't redrill? Flaring fenders and repainting your car? Proper tires...





Now, would you like a demonstration as far as the whole needing upgraded brakes with larger, heavier wheels goes?

Go 60 to 0 as fast as you can on your stock wheels. then 100 to 0. U can either measure distance or time, whichever you have the means to do but distance would be the most adequate test. U can measure these long distances with a certain tool you may find at home depot.

Then, install your 'free' wheels, then do the same test.. tell me how it works for you. I'm curious to see the results. All I'm saying is, you're making an argument saying you don't need upgraded brakes. The Tt brakes are okay for stock, not good. If you upgrade them, you will feel and notice the substantial difference. hence the word 'upgrade'.

Increasing brake distance isn't a good idea, even by a little. Don't sit here and say that's okay.

[ztommyx]

i know you can sell these easily in the http://www.odyclub.com/
heck i got beemer wheels on my wife's van

[TTkickedin]

^ what's that project in the front of the ody?!

[ArticDragon192]

One would assume, since the op is trying to fit free wheels, that he wouldn't pay to get it done right.

Paying to get it done right would likely outweigh the cost of getting wheels that fit (after all other costs are factored in as one total)

But those do, definitely look like crap. The redrills I posted

My wheels cost $15 a wheel to redrill and insert. Hardly a bank breaker, lol. The redrills you posted aren't relevant since it is a completely different bolt pattern and a cover goes over that, so it isn't seen. The only way to do a redrill from 5x120 to 5x114.3 is the method I posted. And it's cheap. And safe.

You also posted a 5 to 4 redrill. I guess a 5 to 5 could be done easier.

It is a lot easier. Like I posted. He's comparing apples to oranges.

Op,

"after all costs are considered" the wheels will probably cost more than wheels that fit. No matter how you swing it. 200 plus shipping if you don't live near them? If you do, then 200. Then, custom wheel spacers if u don't redrill? Flaring fenders and repainting your car? Proper tires...





Now, would you like a demonstration as far as the whole needing upgraded brakes with larger, heavier wheels goes?

Go 60 to 0 as fast as you can on your stock wheels. then 100 to 0. U can either measure distance or time, whichever you have the means to do but distance would be the most adequate test. U can measure these long distances with a certain tool you may find at home depot.

Then, install your 'free' wheels, then do the same test.. tell me how it works for you. I'm curious to see the results. All I'm saying is, you're making an argument saying you don't need upgraded brakes. The Tt brakes are okay for stock, not good. If you upgrade them, you will feel and notice the substantial difference. hence the word 'upgrade'.

Increasing brake distance isn't a good idea, even by a little. Don't sit here and say that's okay.

Stretching out your argument there aren't you? I've gone from 18 lbs wheels, to 27 lbs wheels along with 25mm bolt on spacers, and tracked on each and every set up with stock NA brake set up. It honestly isn't much of a difference in braking braking ability. I speak from experience.