Wheel Gurus.... please help me.....

[krash]

I've searched the crap out of what seemed to be an easy search and find question, but I haven't found the answer I'm looking for. This is what is going on: I have an S13 vert, pretty much stock suspension/body wise other than kybs and lowering springs (1-2" drop) I'm about to get ahold of some wheels off of a turbo starion for very cheap. The guy said he thinks the fronts are 8" inch and the rears are 9". This means that the offset in the rear is 0, meaning the wheel is 16x9 +0. I'm just trying to find out how doable this is on my vert. Thanks for ANY help guys, I've been searching all day with no solid answer.

[dfddfd2]

I suggest you do some general research on wheel sizes and fitments. The Tire Rack has some good information to get you started.

[simmode1]

You don't need any wheel guru's for this. You just need Rimtuck.com

17x9+0 with 225/45


Yeah, it's not a 16, but this is how much a 9 inch wheel with a 0 offset should poke out. But at your ride height, you won't really need to worry about rolling fenders or stretching tires unless you really want to. You could run a 245/45/16 if you want.

[krash]

that is awesome stuff guys. I'm relatively new to this whole wheel fitment thing. I knew I could count on good ol' Nico, thanks A BUNCH

[flohtingPoint]

You don't need any wheel guru's for this. You just need Rimtuck.com

17x9+0 with 225/45


Yeah, it's not a 16, but this is how much a 9 inch wheel with a 0 offset should poke out. But at your ride height, you won't really need to worry about rolling fenders or stretching tires unless you really want to. You could run a 245/45/16 if you want.

Is tire-bite going to be a problem for him w/out a cambered rear wheel?

[krash]

I was wondering about that. I figured a bit of a roll in the rear would eliminate that if it were to be a problem

[simmode1]

Is tire-bite going to be a problem for him w/out a cambered rear wheel?

I'm gonna be honest: I've never heard the term 'tire-bite' before. If you're asking if his tires will rub or scrape or 'bite' the rear fenders, then I don't think he's low enough to have a problem like that. I rolled around like this for a while with no real problems... other than massive understeer:

16x8.5+27 with 30mm rear spacer, so effectively 16x8.5-3 with 225/45/16's





The car is lowered on KYB AGX's with Tein S-Tech's and stock camber. Pretty similar to the OP's setup. As you can see: the tire is NOWHERE near the fender.

[flohtingPoint]

Is tire-bite going to be a problem for him w/out a cambered rear wheel?

I'm gonna be honest: I've never heard the term 'tire-bite' before. If you're asking if his tires will rub or scrape or 'bite' the rear fenders, then I don't think he's low enough to have a problem like that. I rolled around like this for a while with no real problems... other than massive understeer:

16x8.5+27 with 30mm rear spacer, so effectively 16x8.5-3 with 225/45/16's





The car is lowered on KYB AGX's with Tein S-Tech's and stock camber. Pretty similar to the OP's setup. As you can see: the tire is NOWHERE near the fender.

Yea, basically tire-bite is when you get chassis roll into the tire. Your fender bites into the top/side tire, shedding speed, causing uneven tire heat and damaging the tire. The tire is not near the fender, but I'm wondering if, when the chassis gets a lateral force applied to it, due to the weakness of the springs, if the roll would cause it to masticate some tire.

Krash is a budding autocrosser in my area, and it'd be a shame if he throws cash down on something that'd just hurt him in the long run, that's why I was asking.

[simmode1]

Ahhh... that's some good thinking there. Stupidly, I've never autocrossed my car, even though it has a pretty decent setup and there's an autox, like, 3 exits down the highway from my place once a month. With my Suspension Techniques front and rear sway bars and ebay front and rear strut mounts, I don't have too much body roll under hard cornering. The AGX's and S-Tech's are a nice stiff combo too.

But of course, hard corning on highway loops and twisty roads is totally different than hard cornering on the autox course, I suppose...

On second thought: when I had that 30mm spacer in the rear, i did experience massive understeer while hardcornering on this big highway loop near my house. It was scary enuff that I took the spacers off the next day. I suppose what I might have experienced could have been 'tire-bite', but I continued to roll around on those same tires for about a year longer and never noticed any damage like that. Sooo, I doubt it...

[Rex]

I've seen it quite a few times. The trouble is there are a few different sizes & offsets when it comes to Starion, COnquest and TSi wheels.

Here's a few pics


rears only


and a side shot

No idea what sizes or if he's using spacers.

[krash]

yea I was thinking about how much it will stick out in the back and also if I'd have problems with rubbing. my car seems like its lower than your hatch was:




I'm getting the wheels for a bit over 100 bucks, and I know I can use the fronts without much of a problem, its just the rears that I'm worried about. I'm also going to get better springs eventually. The springs that are on there right now are RS*R lowering springs, I'd like something a bit stiffer for autocross, like flohtingpoint said

[flohtingPoint]

Maybe someone at Carlisle will let you try on their wheels.

[krash]

well, I'm ending up not doing it. By the time I switch to 5 lug and get tires mounted I'm going to be around 700 bucks in. Too much money for wheels right now. Thanks for the help anyway guys