I found these wheels on ebay at a good price, but I'm not sure if they will fit or if they will stick out of my wheel well all stupid looking.I have a 2.2 drop in front and a 2.1" in back also.
Size: 2 Rims 18X8.5 28.8 lbs each
Size: 2 Rims 18X9.5 28.0 lbs each
Bolt Pattern: 4X100 and 4X114.3 (4.5")
Offset: +35mm
Wheel fitting, offset, will these 9.5" fit? +35mm
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Re: Wheel fitting, offset, will these 9.5" fit? +35mm (mackdaddy240)
Hey Justin. I got power lol. The number 2 spark plug wire was switched with the number 3 spark plug lol. So I was running on only 2 cylinders lol. Cylinder 2 and 3 were never firing lol.
Anywho about the wheels, what wheels are they? I'm in the search for wheels. I've been doing so much research its not even funny. The 9.5 should clear in the rear you might need a 10mm spacer. The fronts I think you might run into problems with. If I were you I would go 8.5 all around. Anything above 9 is pointless unless going for major grip. I think 8.5 would look and be better for performance. But I'm not a wheel expert yet lol.
Post a link for the wheels. I want to see them.
Anywho about the wheels, what wheels are they? I'm in the search for wheels. I've been doing so much research its not even funny. The 9.5 should clear in the rear you might need a 10mm spacer. The fronts I think you might run into problems with. If I were you I would go 8.5 all around. Anything above 9 is pointless unless going for major grip. I think 8.5 would look and be better for performance. But I'm not a wheel expert yet lol.
Post a link for the wheels. I want to see them.
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I know, they're SportMax in 18's. Got ya. If I were you Justin I wouldn't get 9.5's. But thats just me. What all will you be doing with the wheels. I know daily driving. Will you be doing any drifting with them or anything like that?
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Dude those sportmax's are heavy as hell in 17x9 I don't even want to know how heavy they are in the aforementioned sizes.In order to see if they fit you also have to tell us what kind of car and suspension you have, not just the drop size
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Assuming these are goin on a S13? If so the 8.5 +35 up front will be close to the inside. Ok for spring/shock combo, but probably no coilover will clear them without spacer. would probably have to roll the lips at least all around, maybe a slight pull. Also IMO 18"s are too big on S13 and 28lbs each is rediculous.
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One thing though, I know 5 pounds per wheel makes a differace but 17x9 FNs are 20 lbs and 17x9 are 25 lbs. That 5 pounds. So does that make them really that much worse. Lug nuts make a differance.
Now what about FN's in 18x9.5. I know drifters that run that size. Anyone want to guess what they weight? 23. Arn't FN's "Light" wheels. But yet everyone says SportMax are heavy? I'm not saying that 23 or 25 are light nor heavy. I'm just pointing something out. Now I know the 18x9.5 are 1 inch bigger and 0.5 inchs wider then the 17x9 SportMax but you place FN's under light wheels and SportMax's under heavy? I've always said SportMax's are heavy and all but now I sit down and compare them to other I've changed my mind alittle.
Now what about FN's in 18x9.5. I know drifters that run that size. Anyone want to guess what they weight? 23. Arn't FN's "Light" wheels. But yet everyone says SportMax are heavy? I'm not saying that 23 or 25 are light nor heavy. I'm just pointing something out. Now I know the 18x9.5 are 1 inch bigger and 0.5 inchs wider then the 17x9 SportMax but you place FN's under light wheels and SportMax's under heavy? I've always said SportMax's are heavy and all but now I sit down and compare them to other I've changed my mind alittle.
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Well, Stock S13 SE alloys weight 18, so I think of it as trying to stay as close to that as possible.
The 17x9 FNs list at 19lbs and the 17x9 Sportmax's are around 25lbs, that is a huge percentage increase.
Think of it as if you were talking about larger weights: If one item was 1900lbs and the other weighed 2500lbs, its realitive to the size of the object in question.
The 17x9 FNs list at 19lbs and the 17x9 Sportmax's are around 25lbs, that is a huge percentage increase.
Think of it as if you were talking about larger weights: If one item was 1900lbs and the other weighed 2500lbs, its realitive to the size of the object in question.
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That is a good point of veiw Chad. I still have to say that SportMax's arn't as bad as people make them. I'm think about getting some myself. I think wheel weight is played out to much.
What I'm think about doing is getting some 16" Enkei's for track then getting some 17" sportmax's or 57c's for street/drift. If they made the custom 17x9 +20 FN's that SPL sales in Soild Silver then I'd get them. To me SportMax is the best looking wheel out there in 4 lug.
Well we all know that saving 500 pounds from your car can help alot. But with wheel weight savings how much does a 31% weight saving really save. Such as tuning, braking, total weight of car, ect. Do you get a 31% increase on performance? Whats the percentage of increase do you get with a 19 pound wheel as to 25? Is it that much to really make a differance? Every bit helps yes, but let say with engines, you add a Intake. It gets you 5 hp. Does that 5 hp really make a differance? Well it might alittle but not enough to make a differance. Now what if that intake gained you 25 hp. Then you would get that intake becuase it made a bigger differance right? Over all what I'm trying to say or even ask what percentage of performance to you gain (or keep moreless) with lighter wheels? Are 25 pounds wheels like that 5 hp intake or the 25 hp intake. Now for all out drifter (track only car) then yea get some light forged wheels. But for the learning/not D1 drifters does it make that much of a differance?
For us that want a nice 4 lug wheel can we sacrifice alittle performance to look nice? Is to worth it?
Modified by youngmanvr4 at 5:57 PM 12/13/2005
What I'm think about doing is getting some 16" Enkei's for track then getting some 17" sportmax's or 57c's for street/drift. If they made the custom 17x9 +20 FN's that SPL sales in Soild Silver then I'd get them. To me SportMax is the best looking wheel out there in 4 lug.
Well we all know that saving 500 pounds from your car can help alot. But with wheel weight savings how much does a 31% weight saving really save. Such as tuning, braking, total weight of car, ect. Do you get a 31% increase on performance? Whats the percentage of increase do you get with a 19 pound wheel as to 25? Is it that much to really make a differance? Every bit helps yes, but let say with engines, you add a Intake. It gets you 5 hp. Does that 5 hp really make a differance? Well it might alittle but not enough to make a differance. Now what if that intake gained you 25 hp. Then you would get that intake becuase it made a bigger differance right? Over all what I'm trying to say or even ask what percentage of performance to you gain (or keep moreless) with lighter wheels? Are 25 pounds wheels like that 5 hp intake or the 25 hp intake. Now for all out drifter (track only car) then yea get some light forged wheels. But for the learning/not D1 drifters does it make that much of a differance?
For us that want a nice 4 lug wheel can we sacrifice alittle performance to look nice? Is to worth it?
Modified by youngmanvr4 at 5:57 PM 12/13/2005
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW
He also has 7.5 for front and 8.5 for rear which I think I'm going to get.
So you still using the 4 puck act clutch? did you put a new bearing in? hows it sound?
He also has 7.5 for front and 8.5 for rear which I think I'm going to get.
So you still using the 4 puck act clutch? did you put a new bearing in? hows it sound?
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youngmanvr4: you say you want sportmax or 57c for street/drift wheels, How can you compare Volk Racing wheels to some cheap Ebay wheels?To me they are not even in the same category and far from being comparable
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Yeah the extra weight definately sucks, but honestly I just want a little more traction and a lot more looks. Wheels make this biggest change in a cars apperance in my opinion. And a nice fat lip is somthing I've always wanted. If I was going to the track drift/drag, I'd put different wheels on, especially in the back, those tires arent cheap! I think I'm going to try out the cheap 7.5 front 8.5 rear and see how it goes, I just hope they dont rub.
Re: (nismofly)
hit it right onnismofly wrote:wider tires wont grip any better
you need better tires
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9.5 wheels take a wider tire then stock. With the more rubber on contact patch means better traction. Right? Please explain.
Also something I was thinking about with then heavy wheels is the Tire Traction Force. Lets say it this way, If a car weights 3000 pounds and accelerates at 1.0g, then the tires are producing 3000 pounds of traction force. The more traction force the more traction you will have. So adding weight to the wheels might make more tire traction force making more total traction. Just a thought. Not sure if this is right or not. Just something I started thinking about.
Also something I was thinking about with then heavy wheels is the Tire Traction Force. Lets say it this way, If a car weights 3000 pounds and accelerates at 1.0g, then the tires are producing 3000 pounds of traction force. The more traction force the more traction you will have. So adding weight to the wheels might make more tire traction force making more total traction. Just a thought. Not sure if this is right or not. Just something I started thinking about.
nismofly wrote:wider tires wont grip any better
you need better tires
yes it changes the shape of the contact patch, but no it doesnt make it any more area, just sort of rotates the rectangle shaped contact patch
yes weight increases traction, not sure if its how you laid it out, but the minimum traction increase wont counter the effects on handling, and might probably wont better acceleration because of the increased weight
more weight for better traction is good in situations where acceleration isnt as much of a problem, or can be overcome by an insanely powerful engine
an extreme example of this would be a diesel loco on a train, making around 9000hp they can accelerate to 60mph in probably 30-45 seconds, but whats more important is getting 10 to 15 million pounds of train moving
yes weight increases traction, not sure if its how you laid it out, but the minimum traction increase wont counter the effects on handling, and might probably wont better acceleration because of the increased weight
more weight for better traction is good in situations where acceleration isnt as much of a problem, or can be overcome by an insanely powerful engine
an extreme example of this would be a diesel loco on a train, making around 9000hp they can accelerate to 60mph in probably 30-45 seconds, but whats more important is getting 10 to 15 million pounds of train moving
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FOR CHRISTSAKE.youngmanvr4 wrote:9.5 wheels take a wider tire then stock. With the more rubber on contact patch means better traction. Right? Please explain.
Also something I was thinking about with then heavy wheels is the Tire Traction Force. Lets say it this way, If a car weights 3000 pounds and accelerates at 1.0g, then the tires are producing 3000 pounds of traction force. The more traction force the more traction you will have. So adding weight to the wheels might make more tire traction force making more total traction. Just a thought. Not sure if this is right or not. Just something I started thinking about.
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