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I can get these wheels for next to nothing. I do not know what off set they are, but guy says they came off a front wheel drive car. Will the fit my 240sx?

Quote »Set of (4) Chrome Wheels/Rims

(4) Bolt Multi Bolt Pattern. 15" total diameter and 7" total width. This particular set of rims were removed from a FWD car. The center caps and lug nuts are not included. Found minor scratches around the outside rim and a few scratches at the bolt holes. 4 x 100 or 4 x 115 universal fit. The center hole for the center cap measures 2.75" total diameter. [/quote]


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IMO these wheels are ugly! . also most FWD offsets are in the +40-50 range which would be sunken battle ship status on a 240. Save your money and buy some nice wheels man."buy it once buy it right".

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madcowvert wrote:IMO these wheels are ugly! . also most FWD offsets are in the +40-50 range which would be sunken battle ship status on a 240. Save your money and buy some nice wheels man."buy it once buy it right".
I don't find them ugly, there are ones I like much better, but when you don't have the funds to get what you want and find some that are acceptable........ Anyway, with the off set thing, you say most FWD cars are like +40, what is our stock wheels, aren't they like -40???? So if I understand off set right, that would bring the tires way inside the fenders, closer to center of car?

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I'm with madcowvert on this one but to each his own.

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ICWs, i had a set exactly like that come on my first 240 when i bought it.

They will fit. Technically. In my eyes, fitment is when you by a set of wheels, and make the car fit them, thats what I am in the process of doing. However, they will be close to OEM i'd guess.

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OEM wheels are around +40, but you want to look for wheels that are at least 7" wide, more like 8" with offsets around +10 to +25.

Rota, XXR, 5Zigen have good options for low prices.

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17x9 +15


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biggie wrote:OEM wheels are around +40,
So OEM WHEELS ARE +40????? If so, what are FWD off sets?

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BiXLL wrote:So OEM WHEELS ARE +40????? If so, what are FWD off sets?
FWD offsets are +40 or higher. Basically the OEM wheels are FWD offsets and don't come close to flush on the car. The idea is to get lower offsets for aftermarket wheels.

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biggie wrote:FWD offsets are +40 or higher. Basically the OEM wheels are FWD offsets and don't come close to flush on the car. The idea is to get lower offsets for aftermarket wheels.
I just don't understand!!! If the OEM are basicly FWD wheels, or +40 off set, why does everyone tell me that FWD wheels won't look right? Would they not have the same stance as OEM???? Screw it, I'll just keep the stockers!!!!

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I would say keep stock aswell, those are too shiny and they look like airplane propelars

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+15 should be ok

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BiXLL wrote:I just don't understand!!! If the OEM are basicly FWD wheels, or +40 off set, why does everyone tell me that FWD wheels won't look right? Would they not have the same stance as OEM???? Screw it, I'll just keep the stockers!!!!
The FWD offset OEM wheels look 'ok' or pass for everyone because they are still OEM. Everyone (ok 99% of people) believes if you are going to buy aftermarket wheels they should sit as close to the fenders as possible for the flush look.

I would agree that I would just keep stock over going with those, but its an opinion. Just keep searching something will come up that you like and sits well.

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biggie wrote:The FWD offset OEM wheels look 'ok' or pass for everyone because they are still OEM. Everyone (ok 99% of people) believes if you are going to buy aftermarket wheels they should sit as close to the fenders as possible for the flush look.

I would agree that I would just keep stock over going with those, but its an opinion. Just keep searching something will come up that you like and sits well.
So for me to "sit flush" I will need to find a +15 off set?????

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Lolll those are like +40 offset.

And personally, they're hideous.

Looks like it came off a lowrider truck. If you don't have enough money for good wheels, put the steelies back on. They look 10x better than those.

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All right all ready, I am forgetting those wheels!!!!!!!!!! So tell me, is it +15 I want for the wheels to 'sit flush"???????

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It depends on the tire bill. the offset on a set of 10 wide rims are different than the offset of a set of 7s. all depends on what you want to get width wise.

ps those first rims, are nasssssssstyyyyyy

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Piper wrote:It depends on the tire bill. the offset on a set of 10 wide rims are different than the offset of a set of 7s. all depends on what you want to get width wise.
LOL, so I am no less confused now then ever!!!!!!!!!!!

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BiXLL wrote:LOL, so I am no less confused now then ever!!!!!!!!!!!
Always welcome to email me with questions, I'll try to post up some wheel/tire calculators when I'm not posting from the PS3.

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wheel fitment 101. E-mail me for advanced courses such as, "Difference between LIP and DISH (Because there IS one!)" and "I love deep LIP wheels, what factors give me a deep LIP"...

Terms you need to understand:Pad - The material on the back of the wheel that bolts up to your car's hub.

Offset - Measured in Millimeters, this is the distance from the center of the wheel to the PAD.

Backspacing - Measured in Inches, this is the distance from the back lip of the wheel to the PAD.

Stretch - This is when a narrower tire is forced on to a wider wheel and the sidewalls are literally stretched to bead. *Most tire places WILL NOT mount stretch tires due to some reasonable concerns, mainly the tire unbeading and violent blow outs. I have seen stretched tires both unbead and get punctured. My brother drove like this cautiously for 2 miles to get off a bridge. Him and the car were fine. Just saying, I have never seen these concerns play out (thankfuly)

Now that these basic terms are laid out, the term fitment is more a matter of opinion than fact. Generally though, it is referenced at the current trend of making a tire as flush to the fenders as possible. In doing this, many sacrifice drivability and turning radius due to clearance issues. The most extreme cases also sacrifice tire performance due to STRETCHING their tires to fit the most aggressive wheels possible. Others try to optimize tire performance by fitting the most rubber under the car. This is still technically fitment, just not the trendy style right now. The trick is to find the equilibrium for your self between form and function.

Offset and width relationship:Because the way OFFSET is measured, width of the wheel does change the over all fitment, even if offset is unchanged, and the opposite is true that changing offset but not width will also affect over all fitment. It all comes down to simple math. If you have a 7" wheel, and want to go to an 8" wheel, you are effectively adding .5" of wheel on both sides. That extra material is what is taking up the extra well space and creating better fitment. *If you have coilovers, you have to be careful because those take up more room than normal shocks, so a wide wheel (9" or so) with a high offset (+30ish) will not clear the suspension.

Here is one offset calculator.http://marksink.com/tire_wheel_offset/offset.html

Also, this website is a good general learning tool, and has a chart converting backspacing to offset.https://www.rsracing.com/tech-wheel.html

Thanks for reading my novel, again, feel free to e-mail me any questions. Or if anyone has general questions that would benefit the discussion, post them and I will be more than happy to reply.
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another website that is awesome and will make you not want those wheels, http://www.rimtuck.com/

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I found this on this awesome site called Nicoclub.com!

http://www.nicoclub.com/tech/wheel-tech.shtml

Good luck DUDE!


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^ - LOL. good call Krash!

Bill... Wheel fitment is an acquired taste.

At first the only thing you notice is the color and design of the wheel. If you like shiny and multi spoke designs with a little style.. those wheels are probably fine.

As you develop that taste you'll start to appreciate wheel size.. depending on the style of the wheel, you might want bigger or smaller..

The next step (and the point at which most 240 wheel snobs are at) is how the wheel lines up with the fenders. The ideal fit is what people call "flush"... in other words, if you took a yardstick and lined it up from the fender to the pavement, the wheel should basically also touch the stick. The term sunken refers to the wheels being inside the fender line.

Some people take this last stage to the extreme and have that yardstick actually point away from the car at the bottom.. the wheels actually lean away from the car. This is extreme camber. It allows the tops of the wheels to tuck underneath the fender and have the bottom of the wheels extend a bit past flush. It's all subject to taste.

Again.. with wheels.. it's all up to your taste.. and your taste may change over time.


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See how the wheels are not even close to the fender? And how you can see inside the fender? Thats sunken wheel fitment. Much like how your new wheels would fit



Now see how the lip of the wheel is close to the fender? Thats flush. My finger cant fit between the wheel and fender. This is what you SHOULD shoot for, but your preference may be different from mine.

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Stock wheels are ~15x6.5 +40

My wheels are 17x9 +15

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XXR 001 15 x 7 Side View

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mick wrote: XXR 001 15 x 7 Side View


those have to be some of the ugliest, worst fitting wheels over compensated with WAY too big of tires wheels I have EVER seen.

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mick wrote: XXR 001 15 x 7 Side View
well thats micks taste....everyone has a diffrent taste.Mick whats was your last vehicle... let me guess Ford F150?i am sorry, it reminds me of my friends truck

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Man you guys are harsh! I guess I know better then to ask for wheel opinions!

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They are more DUB style than anything else. I like a lot of sidewall since I mostly drive freeways. I was going to get 16" Rotas but it would be another $600 with the tires.Also there is a 2 month wait on the Blue lip Rota 15" wheels right now

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man... i thought i had bad taste in wheels but geezs those wheels look like big rigs


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