Wheel Fitment suggestions

[gomer23]

Well I have a 1989 240 hatch. I ended up going with Rota D2 wheels for my 240, they are 17x8.5 +20. For tires I went with 245/40 Yokohama AVS ES100s all the way around. But the wheels do stick out a little past the fender, the front is worse than the back. So my dilema lies on what I should do. Get fender flares or try roll/pull fenders. I dont think a roll will work for the amount I need but I will let you guys decide. I did just get some Megan Racing lowering springs just an FYI (getting put on this weekend) Here is a pic of how the wheels look currently. let me know what you think I should do.


Modified by gomer23 at 10:55 AM 5/14/2007

[sycle]

First off, i would get the springs put on then take new pictures to. The springs will make a difference depending on how low they drop it.

I would say a pull and roll will do you good enough for your setup. I don't think you need fenders flares

[JeromeS13]

I'd actually suggest running a different size tire. I bet that'd make a huge difference in how far it sticks out. That, and run a little more negative camber.

-Jerome

[boznuttz]

New tires may seem like an easy idea, but just a pita and out of the question if you JUST mounted a new set anyway ( or iff you simply dont have an additional 500 bucks laying around). Anyway, I have the same issues. I have at least 20 mm sticking out with the offsets I have, AND I am also using the Megan Springs as well. Fender flares seem liks they would only look nice with some side skirts really. I also don't think that the Megans lower the car enough for flares to really do much to improve the look.

I personally don't think it looks too bad. Wheels being flush or a few mm sunken in, is purely for asthetics.

[gomer23]

Yea I would prefer not to change tires since they are new haha. I had a feeling I was going to run into this but went for it anyway ha.

So what if i just rolled the fenders (front and back) and then had a little neg. camber in the front. What would that do for my tire wear. The car is mostly gonna be just driven in the evenings/weekends with the occasional autocross or drag strip runs.

[AmoebAssassin]

As long as your toe is in check, camber shouldn't have too drastic an impact on your tire wear.

Lower your car plz

[Nightstalker]

Yea I would prefer not to change tires since they are new haha. I had a feeling I was going to run into this but went for it anyway ha.

So what if i just rolled the fenders (front and back) and then had a little neg. camber in the front. What would that do for my tire wear. The car is mostly gonna be just driven in the evenings/weekends with the occasional autocross or drag strip runs.

the extra camber will kill your tires faster on daily driving

[AmoebAssassin]

the extra camber will kill your tires faster on daily driving

No it won't -- toe will.

[Nightstalker]

No it won't -- toe will.

while it is true that the toe can kill his tires but by feathering. Camber will hurt them also but by only wearing down half of the tire. My rear toe is perfect and my camber is off by like 1 degree and the inner half of my tires were completely bald when like 2-3months before i had tread on them. Will camber kill them quickly? prolly not but it still will kill your tires.

[LooseSlide]

^^This man is correct i have dd on my tires w/ -4* camber upfront for over a year now and there hasnt been any excessive wear, toe is what kills tires not camber. for the op, i say despite them being new, try and sell those tires and get something in a size that that would have some stretch to it(like 215/45/17, or 225/40/17), and add a lil' camber as well as lowering the a bit car, then u should be fine. u will probably just need to roll the fender. u shouldn't even need a pull.

[adrianfromthecastle]

you'd be dumb to get flares. Its not even that dramatic, it sticks out cuz its not lowered.

Roll the fenders thin... then slamm it with camber.

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[Nightstalker]

[QUOTE=LooseSlide]^^This man is correct i have dd on my tires w/ -4* camber upfront for over a year now and there hasnt been any excessive wear, toe is what kills tires not camber. /QUOTE]

http://www.procarcare.com/incl....html

read feathering and one side wear, feathering is caused by toe and one side wear is caused by camber, toe and camber effect tire wear.

And i say leave it like it is :P

[gomer23]

Ya I am not getting flares (was hoping i didnt have to anyway haha)

Once I finish up putting on the lower springs this weekend I am gonna roll and pull the fenders as much as I can then if I have to in front add 1 degree of camber and see where I am at after that. Thanks for all the help so far.

[LooseSlide]

belive me the amt that camber will wear your tires will be unnoticeable if you have a proper alignment for the setup(ie. swaybar and ride ht.).

If your tires got wiped on the inside from just one degree of camber in a couple of months of normal driving you have more issues than just one degree of camber, and you can quote that.

and as for correcting amoebassassin, what does he know, know he's just the MODERATOR of this forum.

my point is you can quote a textbook all you want, what it comes down to is real world experience. I have been doing this for years.

pls dont judge me by my post count.

edit, just wanted to add this is good up to 3.5* camber 4 maxx any more will cause the excessive wear of which you speak. dont misquote me saying that 5* is fine for dd.

[boznuttz]

Lol, I'm going to actually end up rolling my rears. I was driving yesterday with 4 people in my car, and lots of bbq and camping supplies. EVERY f%^king bump in the road, my tires would give a little high five to my fender. I think I may sell the Megans eventually and go for a 7kg/mm front and a 5kg/mm rear setup from GC.

[boznuttz]

....Also, don't give all your friends rides at the same time- if you enjoy your tires anyway, lol. Assuming that you won't feel like you'll need to roll the rears right away.

[gomer23]

Heres some new pictures with the Megan Racing Lowering Springs on:

Before:

After:

[gumby74]

Looks pretty good. Bend the lips in some, and just a hair of neg. camber and you should be set.Dont pay too much attention to the heretics. Get you a good alignment with 0 toe up front, and just a hair toe in at the rear and you will be all right. If all 4 tires are the same size, rotate them left to right (flip them) as needed.You will probably wear the rears out faster with crazy driving and an open diff. than with a little negative camber.

[gomer23]

Ya I am planning on getting an alignment after the exhaust is finished. My plan is to do 1-2 degrees of neg camber in front then try to do 0 in back so we'll see how things go ha.

[srpowered240sx]

looking good dude. i dig the wheels.