Wheel bearing? Adjustable or Replace ?

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I have a very slight amount of movement in my front wheel bearing, left side, are these adjustable or must they be replaced?


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No offense taken, I thought it was funny . But I thought I overheard someone say that the other day, I know what a wheel bearing looks like, it kind of behooved me too .....so I threw the question up just to clear my mind. I must have misheard something.. But Thank You anyhow..

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They may not need to be replaced. Thy are not "adjustable" per se but over time they do need to be readjusted and repacked. This happens quite a bit on my pathfinder. Depending on the driving conditions, your bearing can become misaligned, causing a wobbling sound while driving. This does not normally warrant a replacement, you can just pull the outer bearing out (I suggest adjusting and repacking both bearings, inner and outer) and repack it with grease and re-seat it. The only time you would want to replace a bearing is if it is super old, or if it sounds like there are metal shavings in it (such as a broken bearing). Also, you want to visually inspect the bearing to make sure it has no nicks or deep scratches.

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The fact that bearings get very hot. Almost untouchable. Is this a sign that they need repacking or replacement, or that I am crazy and it is normal that they are hot.Thanks

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maikan wrote:The fact that bearings get very hot. Almost untouchable. Is this a sign that they need repacking or replacement, or that I am crazy and it is normal that they are hot.Thanks
Yes, this is perfectly normal. Bearings will generate heat due to the large amounts of friction during operation. Of course, if you drive through water which goes up to your bearings (up to the center of your wheel), then it is recommended that you repack the bearings. I have had my bearings repacked about every 15,000 miles due to my driving conditions and they need to repacked again. Loud bearings will indicate that they need to be repacked and adjusted, this can sound like a loud wobbling noise coming from the wheels. A high-pitched metal-on-metal sound or a garbling sound coming from the wheels will indicate that the bearing may require replacement.

If you are unsure of the service history of your current bearings, and if your vehicle has a lot of miles, replacing your bearings is cheap insurance. The bearings are fairly inexpensive and can be replaced in your driveway using tools you probably already have (except for lock ring pliers and a bearing grease packer, both of which are optional but can make the job much easier).
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blacksrjdm wrote:No offense, but thinking that a wheel bearing is adjustable is just laughable. No it needs to be replaced.
Another Jerk who doesn't even own a Pathy/QX4 popping in saying something rude. It's not laughable if you don't know and it might not need to be replaced, thanks for handing out poor advice. Stay out of our forum if helping others or asking for help isn't in your agenda.

Panther ignore this d!ck, this is not who we are or what this forum is about. I think you saw that from your first thread.

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Also, let me note that to have your front bearings repacked by a Nissan dealership will run you approximately $300-$400 (depending on labor rate).

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Its all ok folks, no sweat, Now I see what the guys may have been talking about. I just got a little bit smarter.. Thanks All.......... Panther

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blacksrjdm wrote:
And BTW, there mister high and mighty... Where did you help the guy but to tell him not to listen to the Nissan/Infinity technician (me)?

So, I will extend the same exact comment back to you and ask that you practice what you preach...

"Stay out of our forum if helping others or asking for help isn't in your agenda."

I like the stay out of "our" forum part, like the thousand seven hundred posts I have doesnt make "me" part of "our".

You need to hop down off that horse and stick to driving, because your advice, well, you didnt really give any, and your attitude, well it sucks. This is the type of attitude "we" at NICO tend to frown on and you sir have given us excellent examples of how not to post. Thanks, Adrian (moderator) and my self will discuss this later. Thanks.
Guess what buddy, when all you contribute to a thread is saying that "thinking that a wheel bearing is adjustable is just laughable" you're a d!ck. Just because you preface it with "no offense" doesn't give you free reign to insult. Every once in a while we get randoms that pop in and say rude things just to be rude. If you didn't explain yourself then you would just be one of those guys. Sorry for jumping on you but what you said was rude and d!ck-ish. Now let's get back on topic.

Panther check out this thread: zer...inder It details how to replace your pads, rotors and outer bearings. There are also inner bearings which I didn't do that time but they're apart of the same hub assembly. If you're up for a rotor and or pad replacement that would be a good time to do it.

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So much hostility in this thread.


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Thanks Empty V . thats very handy..

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good inf pwnin O'brien Thanks --its all good, no need you guys, I am not offended.

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blacksrjdm wrote:
O I see, now you'll help the guy. Like I said, get off your high horse. You had nothing of benefit to OP before I posted back either. So, that just makes you look worse. Have a great day. To the OP. Take the truck to a reputable shop and have the bearings checked out, and either repacked or replaced. Good luck and at least you now know that they are not adjustable. It was a bit comicle to me, but, guess I'm just a d!ck for trying to help.
Dude enough. If you want to go talk about how you're a a parts expert and give bad advice about a part that you were wrong about, or threaten to cry to a mod because someone doesn't like you popping in and making insulting remarks then start a new thread.

Panther don't take the truck to a shop, this is also poor advice. You can do it yourself and save the money. Plus it's fun doing stuff like this. Before I joined NICO I always took my car to a mechanic then realized that most of the maintenance I can do myself. Ever since then I have grown to appreciate and have pride in my vehicle. Plus the more you know about your vehicle the better off you are. You can diagnose issues better and if it is something you need a shop to do you less apt to get ripped off.

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I have a real good friend that is a mechanic, he always helps me out . I am there with him when he,, WE work on the car, or Qx4.So I keep learning and keep my stuff NICE,,, I priced the parts here infinity dealer,,and and on the # that was given to me Scotsdale Arizona,, way cheaper at Scotsdale Dealer ---- Smooth on out friends -- The Panther has tough skin.

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the panther wrote:I have a real good friend that is a mechanic, he always helps me out . I am there with him when he,, WE work on the car, or Qx4.So I keep learning and keep my stuff NICE,,, I priced the parts here infinity dealer,,and and on the # that was given to me Scotsdale Arizona,, way cheaper at Scotsdale Dealer ---- Smooth on out friends -- The Panther has tough skin.
In the rotor/pad replacement thread I put down the part number for the outer bearing(Beck Arnley 051-2683), not sure if it's the same as the inner but I think it is. They were purchased off of amazon from a reseller called partsfactor.com for $18.10/ea. This was the best deal that I could find.

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wow thats way cheaper than anyone.. is that OEM???

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the panther wrote:wow thats way cheaper than anyone.. is that OEM???
I think they're supposed to be OEM direct replacements. I'm not sure if Nissan makes their own or if they outsource. I can't imagine that they make every single little part. I did the outer bearings a few weeks ago and they've worked great so far.

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The bearing should not get HOT because of the bearing. If it does, youhave a problem. It may get hot from the brakes, though.

The bearing is adjustable in that the tightness of the nut is adjustable.

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The link that was posted doesn't include alot of the steps that are in the FSM.

I recently just did a brake job and went through all of this. In the FSM you have to turn the lock washer to 70 foot pounds of torque then back it off to nothing then "adjust" the lock washer so that it take about 8-9 pounds to start the rotation of the rotor. I use a fish scale to measure this.

NOWMy thinking is since you have to "Adjust" the lock washer which changed the preload on the bearings this makes the bearings "Adjustable".

See where I'm going with this? It's really all in how you look at it. Check out the FSM and see what's involved.

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yep , I see what you are getting at.......

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body80 wrote:The link that was posted doesn't include alot of the steps that are in the FSM.

I recently just did a brake job and went through all of this. In the FSM you have to turn the lock washer to 70 foot pounds of torque then back it off to nothing then "adjust" the lock washer so that it take about 8-9 pounds to start the rotation of the rotor. I use a fish scale to measure this.

NOWMy thinking is since you have to "Adjust" the lock washer which changed the preload on the bearings this makes the bearings "Adjustable".

See where I'm going with this? It's really all in how you look at it. Check out the FSM and see what's involved.
Unfortunately when I did that I didn't have a torque wrench or the proper lock washer tool. Since then I have wised up, at least with the torque wrench. I turned it in as far as I could then backed it off and lined up the holes with a little tension. Where did you get the tool if you used it?

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Empty V wrote:
Unfortunately when I did that I didn't have a torque wrench or the proper lock washer tool. Since then I have wised up, at least with the torque wrench. I turned it in as far as I could then backed it off and lined up the holes with a little tension. Where did you get the tool if you used it?

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Are you talking about the lock washer tool? If so then I used a ford lock washer tool which any auto parts store will have. Then you have to modify it. I ground off 2 of the prongs and then used a press to squish it a little bit. Then it fit perfectly.

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I would like to get a service manual for the 2001 Q x4 , which is the best one out there for the 01 Qx4?? and where do I get it????

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the panther wrote:I would like to get a service manual for the 2001 Q x4 , which is the best one out there for the 01 Qx4?? and where do I get it????
Your best bet is the factory service manual which is written and published by Nissan and it's used by the techs at the dealership. Here's a link to a copy of the FSM for the 2001 QX4: http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/QX4/2001%20QX4/.

I recommend downloading all of the PDF's for future reference.

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You can also download the owners manuals as a .pdf file herehttp://www.infiniti-techinfo.c...id=55Although the FSMs are more in depth.


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